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This is The National for Tuesday, Oct. 8, 2019 — On the ground in Syria, teen murdered


(*)>>Adrienne: TONIGHT, FOUR TEENAGERS ARE ACCUSED OF MURDER.>>Andrew: THE VICTIM, A 14-YEAR-OLD, STABBED OUTSIDE SCHOOL WITH HIS MOTHER STEPS AWAY.>>THIS ENTIRE INCIDENT IS DISTURBING.>>Andrew: SHOCK, AND THE SEARCH FOR ANSWERS AS THE FAMILY SAYS THAT THE BOY WAS BULLIED.>>Adrienne: AFTER THE LEADERS’ DEBATE HAS ANYTHING CHANGED? WE ASK VOTERS AND “AT ISSUE.”>>I WAS IN SHOCK.>>Andrew: HOW A ROUTINE DENTAL SURGERY LEFT A 5-YEAR-OLD ON LIFE SUPPORT.>>I DON’T WANT TO JUST THROW MY MONEY AWAY.>>Adrienne: WHY YOU MAY BE PAYING FOR CAR MAINTENANCE THAT YOU DO NOT NEED.>>>THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.” (*)>>>IN HAMILTON, ONTARIO, PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO COMPREHEND A MOMENT OF VIOLENCE THAT SEEMS UNFATHOMABLE. AND THEY HAVE SOME VERY DIFFICULT QUESTIONS TO ANSWER.>>Andrew: MAINLY, HOW A 14-YEAR-OLD BOY COULD BE STABBED TO DEATH OUTSIDE OF HIS SCHOOL IN FRONT OF WITNESSES, ONE OF THEM HIS MOTHER. IT HAPPENED YESTERDAY. AND NOW FOUR YOUNG PEOPLE, HIS FELLOW STUDENTS, ARE FACING CHARGES OF FIRST-DEGREE MURDER. TONIGHT WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE CRIME, THE POSSIBLE MOTIVE, AND HOW A COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SHAKEN TO ITS CORE. HERE’S ELLEN MAURO.>>Reporter: DEVAN SELVEY WAS JUST 14 YEARS OLD, ONLY A FEW WEEKS INTO GRADE NINE. TODAY POLICE ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HIS MURDER, A DAYTIME STABBING ALLEGEDLY BY OTHER STUDENTS OUTSIDE OF HIS SCHOOL IN FRONT OF HIS MOTHER.>>I SAW THE BOY ON THE GROUND. HIS FACE WAS COVERED IN BLOOD.>>Reporter: ALICE SMITH LIVES JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THE SCHOOL.>>IT WILL TAKE ME A WHILE TO GET OVER THERE AND I HAVE SEEN PLENTY IN MY LIFE.>>Reporter: FOR SHAKEN STUDENTS, THE MOST TRAGIC START TO A NEW YEAR.>>WHEN I FOUND OUT I ALMOST BURST OUT CRYING IN FRONT OF MY MOM.>>IT’S JUST REALLY DEPRESSING. I MEAN, IT’S SO SAD.>>Reporter: AS THE MORNING BEGINS, QUESTIONS OVER THE MOTIVES FOR SUCH A BRAZEN KILLING. ONE POLICE SAY THAT WAS PLANNED AND DELIBERATE AND THEY SUSPECT THAT THE WITNESSES SHOT VIDEO ON THEIR CELLPHONES.>>THIS ENTIRE INCIDENT IS DISTURBING. AND IT’S DIFFICULT — IT’S DIFFICULT TO COMPREHEND RIGHT NOW, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. AND I CAN’T IMAGINE THE WAY THAT THE FAMILY FEELS RIGHT NOW.>>Reporter: SELVEY’S RELATIVES TOLD CBC NEWS HE WAS BULLIED. AND ON A GOFUNDME PAGE WROTE “DEVAN TRIED TO GET HELP WITH THE BULLYING THAT HE WAS EXPERIENCING. HE WAS A GREAT KID — SHY, QUIET AND ALWAYS HELPED HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS.”>>THE FIRST WEEK OF SCHOOL THEY JUMPED HIM AND TRIED TO STEAL HIS BIKE.>>Reporter: KANDACE BRENN SAYS THAT HER NIECE IS FRIENDS WITH SELVEY’S GIRLFRIEND. THIS IS HOW BRENN SAYS SHE REMEMBERS HIM.>>TRYING TO TALK TO HIM AND TO GET A WORD OUT OF HIM WAS HARD BECAUSE HE DIDN’T OPEN UP AND HE DIDN’T REALLY TRUST PEOPLE. BUT ONCE HE WARMED UP TO YOU IT WAS PHENOMENAL BECAUSE OF HIS SMILE.>>Reporter: AND IT’S KINDNESS THAT THE COMMUNITY SAYS THEY NEED RIGHT NOW. THERE’S A VIGIL OUTSIDE OF DEVAN SELVEY’S HOME TONIGHT WITH HIS FRIENDS AND FAMILY. HIS MOTHER, SHERRY, DID NOT WANT TO SPEAK ON CAMERA, DEVASTATED BY THE LOSS OF HER SON. BUT SHE TOLD ME THAT DEVAN WAS KIND AND LOVING AND LIKE ANY YOUNG TEENAGER, LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING HIS DRIVER’S LICENSE. ELLEN MAURO, CBC NEWS, HAMILTON, ONTARIO.>>Andrew: NOW IN TORONTO POLICE ARE INVESTIGATING THE DEATH OF ANOTHER TEEN, THIS ONE THEY SAY INTENTIONALLY RUN DOWN BY A VEHICLE AFTER AN ALTERCATION TURNED INTO A HUNT.>>WE KNOW THAT THE SUSPECT’S VEHICLE PATROLLED THIS AREA FOR AT LEAST 15 MINUTES.>>Andrew: POLICE SAY THAT 16-YEAR-OLD MATTHEW DREEVER AND HIS FRIEND HAD SOME KIND OF INTERACTION WITH THE DRIVER AND PASSENGER OF AN S.U.V. IN A NEARBY PARKING LOT ON MONDAY. THEY ALLEGE WHEN THE TEENS RAN AWAY, THE VEHICLE CHASED THEM AND HIT DREEVER BEFORE TAKING OFF. HIS FAMILY IS HEARTBROKEN.>>I’M HAVING FLASHBACKS GOING UP AND DOWN THIS STREET HERE ON HIS GO-KART AND IN BETWEEN MY LEGS AND EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW, IT’S JUST — I NEVER THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN TO US.>>Andrew: POLICE WON’T SAY WHAT THE ALTERCATION IS ABOUT. AND THEY’RE CALLING FOR THE SUSPECTS TO TURN THEMSELVES IN.>>Adrienne: TO THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL NOW. ELECTION DAY IS SO CLOSE, ADVANCED POLLS ARE OPEN ON FRIDAY, WHICH MEANS THAT EVERY MOVE, EVERY MOMENT, LEFT IN A FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN MATTERS. FRESH OFF LAST NIGHT’S COMBATIVE DEBATE JUST TWO DAYS BEFORE ANOTHER, ALL OF THE FEDERAL PARTY LEADERS HIT THE ROAD TODAY. IN NUNAVUT, QUÉBEC AND ONTARIO, THEY PUSHED ON, SELLING THEIR VISIONS FOR CANADA AND STAYING ON THE ATTACK. JUST 12 DAYS REMAIN TO WIN OVER UNDECIDED VOTERS. AND SO THAT ULTIMATELY IS WHAT LAST NIGHT’S DEBATE WAS ALL ABOUT.>>Rosemary: THAT’S RIGHT, ADRIENNE, AND SOME OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT LEADERS FACED THERE FOLLOWED THEM AROUND TODAY, INCLUDING BILL 21. OF COURSE, THAT’S QUÉBEC’S SECULARISM LAW AND WHETHER THEY’D CHALLENGE IT AS PRIME MINISTER. IT’S A TRICKY TOPIC FOR THE LEADERS AS THEY TRY TO WIN VOTES, BOTH WHERE IT’S POPULAR AND WHERE IT’S NOT. AS KATIE SIMPSON EXPLAINS, THAT MEANS THAT SOME ARE STILL CLARIFYING THEIR POSITION.>>Reporter: JAGMEET SINGH IS FEELING PRETTY CONFIDENT TODAY AFTER HIS ENGLISH DEBATE PERFORMANCE, HE MET WITH STUDENTS AND SUPPORTERS IN TORONTO.>>Jagmeet Singh: THANK YOU.>>Reporter: BUT SINGH IS STILL FACING QUESTIONS AROUND AN ISSUE THAT HAS LOOMED OFF THIS — OVER THIS CAMPAIGN — QUÉBEC’S POPULAR SECULARISM LAW.>>Jagmeet Singh: I DON’T BELIEVE IN INTERFERING WITH THE COURT DECISIONS RIGHT NOW.>>Reporter: SINGH HAD TO CLARIFY A COMMENT THAT HE MADE LAST NIGHT, SUGGESTING THAT HE’S OPEN TO THE IDEA OF JOINING A LEGAL CHALLENGE AGAINST BILL 21, WHICH BANS SOME PUBLIC SERVANTS FROM WEARING RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS AT WORK. INCLUDING A TURBAN.>>Jagmeet Singh: AT SOME POINT IF THIS GETS TO THE SUPREME COURT, OF COURSE ANY PRIME MINISTER LEGALLY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.>>Reporter: SINGH HAS NEVER BEEN THAT SPECIFIC ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF INTERVENING BEFORE. A SHIFT THAT CAME AFTER A POINTED ATTACK FROM LIBERAL LEADER JUSTIN TRUDEAU.>>Rt. Hon. Justin Trudeau: I’M THE ONLY ONE ON THIS STAGE WHO HAS SAID, YES, A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MIGHT HAVE TO INTERVENE ON THIS.>>YOU KNOW, FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU TO GO AFTER JAGMEET SINGH IN LAST NIGHT’S DEBATE AND ACCUSE HIM OF NOT STANDING UP OR DOING ENOUGH AGAINST RACISM IS JUST A BIT TOO RICH.>>Reporter: THE IRONY OF A WHITE MAN WITH A HISTORY OF WEARING BLACKFACE, CHALLENGING A VISIBLE MINORITY ON A RACE ISSUE WAS NOT LOST ON SINGH.>>Jagmeet Singh: I DON’T TAKE ANY LESSONS FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS A TRACK RECORD LIKE MR. TRUDEAU WHEN IT COMES TO FIGHTING DISCRIMINATION.>>Reporter: HE SAYS FOR NOW HE WILL FOCUS ON FIGHTING THIS POLICY BY PERSONALLY TRYING TO CHANGE HEARTS AND MINDS IN QUÉBEC.>>Jagmeet Singh: EVERY SINGLE QUESTION I GET A CHANCE TO SAY, HEY, DO YOU THINK THAT THIS MAKES SENSE? I HAVE A BEARD AND A TURN BAN, BUT I’M FIGHTING FOR THE RIGHT FOR PEOPLE TO CHOOSE. AND YOU HAVE MR. SCHEER WHO IS FIGHTING AGAINST THAT. MAYBE IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE. AND I’M CONFIDENT THAT PEOPLE WILL SEE THAT MAYBE THEIR STRATEGY IS NOT WORKING.>>Reporter: THE FACT THAT TRUDEAU WENT AFTER SINGH SO DIRECTLY COULD BE A SIGN THAT THE LIBERALS ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE N.D.P. REGAINING PROGRESSIVE VOTES OUTSIDE OF QUÉBEC. KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.>>Rosemary: SO HOW DID THAT DEBATE PLAY WITH VOTERS? TINA LOVGREEN HEADED OUT TO THE SWING RIDING OF STEEVESTON RICHMOND EAST IN BRITISH COLUMBIA TO SEE WHAT VOTES WERE WON AND LOST THERE LAST NIGHT.>>Reporter: JUST BY THE WATER IS WHERE YOU CAN FIND THE PIER SIDE DELI. KAITLYN PRETTY MUCH GREW UP HERE ALONGSIDE HER MOTHER JANET.>>I HAVE BEEN HELPING OUT FROM SINCE I WAS A LITTLE KID.>>Reporter: LAST NIGHT IT WAS WHERE THEY WATCHED THE DEBATE TOGETHER.>>A LOT OF ARGUING BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM, RIGHT? AND YOU GET KIND OF ANNOYED.>>I THINK THEY ASKED, LIKE, ANDREW SCHEER ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. AND THEN HE BROUGHT UP TRUDEAU’S BLACKFACE ISSUE AND I WAS LIKE, THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.>>Reporter: KAITLYN IS A FIRST-TIME VOTER.>>Elizabeth May: WE NEED TO GET RID OF FOSSIL FUELS.>>Reporter: AND YESTERDAY’S DEBATE CONVINCED HER TO GO GREEN. BUT MOM, ON THE OTHER HAND, IS STILL UNDECIDED.>>I WAS GOING TO GO WITH TRUDEAU AGAIN, THOUGH I DIDN’T LOVE EVERYTHING THAT HE DID, HE DID DO SOME GOOD THINGS, RIGHT? BUT THE WHOLE ARGUMENT THING LAST NIGHT IS JUST TOO MUCH.>>Reporter: IN THE LAST ELECTION, THE RIDING WENT TO THE LIBERALS. BUT THIS TIME AROUND THERE ARE LOTS OF UNDECIDED VOTERS. DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU’LL VOTE FOR THIS ELECTION?>>I HAVEN’T DECIDED YET.>>Reporter: JACK LOU GREW UP HERE AND THE ISSUES THAT MATTER TO HIM — TAXES AND HEALTH CARE. IN THIS PRETTY SUBURBAN RIDING, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF ISSUES THAT ARE TOP OF MIND. TELL ME WHAT YOU WISH THAT YOU HAD SEEN IN THE DEBATE LAST NIGHT?>>IT’S ABOUT THE SENIORS, BECAUSE WE ARE SENIORS AND I NOTICED THAT THEY’RE BEING NEGLECTED.>>Reporter: WHILE OTHERS DECIDED NOT TO TUNE IN.>>I KNOW ALL THEY’RE GOING TO DO IS TO BICKER AND FIGHT AND CALL EACH OTHER NAMES. AND I REALLY JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEIR PLATFORM IS AND THEN I WANT THEM TO SHUT UP.>>Reporter: FOR THOSE WHO WATCHED, IF LAST NIGHT’S DEBATE DIDN’T SWAY THEM…>>I’LL FIGURE IT OUT PROBABLY THE MOMENT I GET IN THERE.>>Reporter: THEY HAVE LESS THAN TWO WEEKS TO DECIDE. TINA LOVGREEN, CBC NEWS, RICHMOND, B.C.>>Rosemary: YOU MAY THINK THAT THE LEADERS WOULD TAKE A MOMENT TO REGROUP BUT NO ONE DID THAT TODAY. JUSTIN TRUDEAU WENT TO NUNAVUT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT HIS GOVERNMENT HAS DONE FOR THE NORTH, BUT ALSO TO TRY AND HOLD ON TO HIS SEAT. THE LIBERALS SWEPT THE NORTH IN 2015, BUT COULD FACE A CHALLENGE IN NUNAVUT FROM A FORMER CONSERVATIVE CABINET MINISTER. (*) MUCH LIKE LAST NIGHT, CONSERVATIVE LEADER ANDREW SCHEER PLAYED A LITTLE OFFENSE AND A LITTLE DEFENCE TODAY, HEADING INTO THE GREATER TORONTO AREA TO A RIDING THEY WANT TO HOLD AND ANOTHER THEY WANT TO WIN. THE CONSERVATIVES NEED TO MAKE GAINS IN ONTARIO TO FORM GOVERNMENT. (*) AND JAGMEET SINGH IS TRYING TO KEEP THE DEBATE MOMENTUM GOING BY HEADING TO FORMER LEADER JACK LAYTON’S RIDING WHICH THE N.D.P. LOST TO THE LIBERALS LAST ELECTION. SO WHAT DO ALL OF THESE STOPS TELL US? THE CAMPAIGN IS STILL VERY MUCH IN PLAY. THE PARTIES ARE STILL SHORING UP SUPPORT IN SOME PLACES. BUT MOST OF THEM ARE PUSHING INTO NEW TERRITORY WITH AN EYE TO WINNING NEW SEATS. (*)>>>WE’VE GOT A SPECIAL TUESDAY NIGHT “AT ISSUE” COMING UP AND>>>WE’VE GOT A SPECIAL TUESDAY NIGHT “AT ISSUE” COMING UP AND I’LL BE BACK WITH THAT IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES’ TIME. UNTIL THEN, BACK TO TORONTO.>>Adrienne: ALL RIGHT, THERE IS A REAL SENSE OF DREAD IN SYRIA TONIGHT, THAT’S BECAUSE THE TURKISH FORCES ARE MASSING ON THE BORDER AND AN ATTACK APPEARS IMMINENT. A MOVE MADE POSSIBLE BY DONALD TRUMP’S ABRUPT DECISION TO LEAVE NORTHEAST SYRIA. AS PAUL HUNTER TELLS US, THAT HAS LEFT KURDS IN MORTAL DANGER.>>Reporter: FROM OUTSIDE OF THE WHITE HOUSE TODAY WHERE THEY URGED DONALD TRUMP TO REVERSE HIS DECISION…>>WITHDRAWING SUPPORT FOR THE KURDS IS GOING TO LEAD TO THEIR GENOCIDE.>>Reporter: TO THE STREETS OF TALABIA RIGHT AT SYRIA’S BORDER WITH TURKEY, WHERE THE SYRIAN KURDS NOW FEAR ANNIHILATION. THEY’RE COMING, HE SAYS TO TAKE OUR LAND. THE EVIDENCE OF AN ONSLAUGHT GREW. JUST ACROSS THE BORDER, BUSLOADS OF TURKISH SOLDIERS EN ROUTE WITH ARTILLERY, NOW IN FOR AN ATTACK TARGETING KURDS IN SYRIA. TURKEY HAS LONG SEEN KURDS AS ENEMIES. ALL OF IT COMES AMID TRUMP’S SURPRISE ANNOUNCEMENT THIS WEEK, PULLING U.S. SOLDIERS FROM NORTHEASTERN SYRIA.>>President Donald Trump: WE WANT TO BRING OUR TROOPS BACK HOME.>>Reporter: SAY CRITICS, INCLUDING FELLOW REPUBLICANS — IT’S A BETRAYAL. ABANDONING THE KURDS WHO FOUGHT AND DIED ALONGSIDE U.S. TROOPS IN THE WAR AGAINST ISIS. NOW LEFT VULNERABLE. TODAY A FORMER TOP U.S. MILITARY COMMANDER IN THAT REGION SEEMED DUMBFOUNDED BY TRUMP’S DECISION.>>FOR ME THE OVERALL SENTIMENT IS ONE OF DISAPPOINTMENT. DISAPPOINTMENT THAT WE’RE LETTING DOWN OUR PARTNERS, PERHAPS ADDING TO THE HUMANITARIAN DISASTER IN THIS REGION.>>Reporter: IN AN APPARENT RESPONSE TO THE BACKLASH YESTERDAY, TRUMP THREATENED TO OBLITERATE TURKEY’S ECONOMY IF TURKEY NOW STEPPED OUT OF LINE. BUT TODAY TRUMP INVITED PRESIDENT ERDOGAN TO A STATE VISIT IN WASHINGTON, A RARE HONOUR. INDEED, IT WAS SHORTLY AFTER A PHONE CALL WITH ERDOGAN ON SUNDAY THAT TRUMP ANNOUNCED THE SURPRISE PULLBACK. THE CONCERNS NOW ARE MANY. ON THE FATE OF THOSE KURDS IN SYRIA, ON WHETHER IT MAY NOW REIGNITE ISIS. AND MORE BROADLY ON WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT U.S. FOREIGN POLICY AND THE PRESIDENT WHO DIRECTS IT. PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS, WASHINGTON.>>Andrew: NOW A SINGLE TWEET WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR A WHOLE OTHER INTERNATIONAL CRISIS THIS WEEK. NO, DONALD TRUMP WAS NOT INVOLVED AND THE STAKES WERE DIFFERENT. HUMAN RIGHTS AND BIG MONEY. WE HAVE MORE ON CHINA, THE NBA PLAY AND THE MATTER BEING MADE WORSE TODAY.>>Reporter: THE NBA’S BIG PRESEASON SPLASH, THE HOUSTON ROCKETS AND THE TORONTO RAPTORS IN JAPAN. BUT THE GAME WAS SET TO AIR ACROSS CHINA FOR HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF BASKETBALL FANS THERE. BUT THE GAME NEVER AIRED.>>WE ARE NOT APOLOGIZING FOR DARYL EXERCISING HIS FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.>>Reporter: DARYL MOREY IS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE HOUSTON ROCKETS WHO TWEETED THIS OVER THE WEEKEND, “FURIOUS, CHINA SAID IT WOULDN’T BROADCAST THE ROCKETS’ GAMES AND NOW IT SAYS THAT IT WON’T AIR ANY PRESEASON GAMES” AND ISSUED A STERN REBUKE. THEY DO NOT BELONG TO THE CATEGORY OF FREE SPEECH. LAST YEAR MORE THAN 490 MILLION CHINESE STREAMED NBA GAMES. THE LEAGUE JUST SIGNED AN EXTENSION TO A PARTNERSHIP IN CHINA WORTH AN ESTIMATED $1.5 BILLION. SO NO WONDER THAT THE LEAGUE AND ITS STARS ARE TRYING TO PATCH THINGS UP.>>WE LOVE CHINA, WE LOVE PLAYING HERE.>>FIRST TIME GOING TO CHINA.>>Reporter: AND THE NBA IS NOT THE ONLY ORGINISATION STRUGGLING TO FIND ITS WAY TO CHINESE AUDIENCES.>>I CAN’T EVEN THINK WITH THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT CENSORING EVERYTHING THAT I WRITE. “SOUTH PARK” TOOK AIM.>>WE LIVE AT A TIME THAT THE ONLY MOVIES THAT AMERICAN KIDS CAN SEE ARE APPROVED BY SOUTH CHINA.>>Reporter: “SOUTH PARK” WAS BANNED AND EVERY MENTION OF THE PROGRAMME WAS SCRUBBED FROM CHINA’S CENSORED INTERNET. CHINA IS THE FASTEST GROWING ECONOMY IN THE WORLD WITH VAST AUDIENCES TO REACH, BUT THIS BUSINESS PROFESSOR SAYS THAT IT COMES WITH ITS OWN SET OF RULES.>>THERE ARE CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT ARE THERE, AND IF YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THEM, THEN DON’T GO.>>Reporter: BUT CLEARLY THE NBA WANTS TO GO. SO IT WILL HAVE TO FIX ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA AND AT THE SAME TIME PROVE TO AMERICANS THAT IT’S NOT GOING TO SACRIFICE ITS CORE VALUES AT THE ALTER OF THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. NOT AN EASY TASK. PETER ARMSTRONG, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Adrienne: IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE RELATIVELY SIMPLE — DENTAL SURGERY. BUT 5-YEAR-OLD AUTUMN FERGUSON ALMOST DIED. BONNIE ALLEN NOW ON WHAT HAPPENED AND THE CLINIC’S CANDID PHONE CALL WITH THE GIRL’S PARENTS.>>Reporter: STUCK INSIDE HER HOUSE, 5-YEAR-OLD AUTUMN FERGUSON IS IN ISOLATION WHILE SHE AWAITS SURGERY TO REPAIR HER THROAT. SEVEN WEEKS AGO THE LITTLE GIRL WENT TO A DENTAL CLINIC TO GET SOME TEETH PIEWLED, AND LEFT IN AN AMBULANCE ON LIFE SUPPORT.>>SHE WAS TOUCH-AND-GO, SO IT WAS SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH THAT WE ALMOST LOST HER. WE DIDN’T KNOW IF SHE’D BE BRAIN DEAD OR NOT.>>I WAS IN SHOCK, LIKE, I DIDN’T BREAK DOWN, I WAS JUST IN SHOCK.>>Reporter: AUTUMN WAS PUT UNDER GENERAL ANESTHESIA AT THIS PRIVATE DENTAL SURGERY CLINIC FOR CHILDREN. AFTER SURGERY IN THE RECOVERY ROOM, HIGH PRESSURE OXYGEN WAS BLASTED DIRECTLY INTO HER BREATHING TUBE.>>IT CAUSED HER LUNGS TO ACT ALMOST LIKE A BALLOON AND THEY JUST INFLATED AND THEN THEY POPPED.>>Reporter: IN A RECORDED PHONE CONVERSATION AN ANESTHESIOLOGIST FROM THE CLINIC WHO INVESTIGATED WHAT WENT WRONG APOLOGISED TO AUTUMN’S FATHER.>>FROM OUR STANDPOINT,UM, THERE WAS A MISTAKE MADE. YOU KNOW, IT WAS A PRETTY SCARY SITUATION FOR ABOUT TWO MINUTES IN THE RECOVERY ROOM WHEN THIS FIRST HAPPENED. ONCE WE TOOK HER BACK INTO THE OPERATING ROOM AND SHE STABILIZED VERY, VERY, VERY QUICKLY.>>Reporter: THAT WASN’T THE CASE FOR THIS EDMONTON GIRL THREE YEARS AGO. SHE SUFFERED BRAIN DAMAGE UNDER GENERAL ANESTHESIA AT A DENTAL CLINIC. THERE WAS POOR SUPERVISION AND NOY RESUSCITATION.>>SO I DON’T THINK THAT THIS WAS A QUESTION OF WHETHER THE EVENT OCCURRED IN HOSPITAL OR OUT OF HOSPITAL.>>Reporter: THIS DENTAL ANESTHESIOLOGIST AND DENTISTRY PROFESSOR SAYS THAT HUMAN ERRORS CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE. BUT THAT STUDIES IN ONTARIO SHOW THAT THE ODDS OF SERIOUS INJURY DURING DEEP SEDATION IN A DENTAL CLINIC ARE ABOUT ONE IN FOUR MILLION.>>SO THESE ARE VERY RARE EVENTS AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD REALLY BE REASSURED THAT THERE’S A LOT OF GREAT CARE HAPPENING IN HOSPITAL ENVIRONMENTS.>>Reporter: WITH NO SET DATE FOR AUTUMN’S THROAT SURGERY, THE LITTLE GIRL MUST STAY AT HOME, DESPERATELY WISHING THAT SHE COULD START KINDERGARTEN. BONNIE ALLEN, CBC NEWS, REGINA.>>Andrew: OKAY, MORE NEWS AHEAD ON “THE NATIONAL”…>>>EXACTLY HOW OFTEN DO YOU NEED TO SERVICE YOUR CAR? WHY YOU DON’T NEED TO PAY FOR TURN-UPS THAT YOU DON’T NEED.>>Adrienne: FIRST THOUGH, CANADA’S NEWEST NOBEL PRIZE WINNER AND HIS ADVICE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.>>Ian: AND A CANADIAN SEAFOOD GIANT IS FORCED TO APOLOGISE TONIGHT AFTER THIS. HIDDEN CAMERA FOOTAGE SHOWING HOW EMPLOYEES WERE TREATING LIVE FISH. WE’RE BACK IN TWO MINUTES. (*)>>Andrew: A CANADIAN-BORN SCIENTIST IS AWARDED THE NOBEL PRIZE IN PHYSICS. JAMES PEEBLES DEVOTED DECADES OF HIS LIFE TO UNRAVELLING THE MYSTERIES OF THE COSMOS. CAMERON MacINTOSH TELLS US WHY HIS WORK IS CALLED TRANSFORMATIVE.>>DR. JAMES PEEBLES.>>Reporter: HE’S NOT A HOUSEHOLD NAME LIKE EINSTEIN OR HAWKING, BUT WINNIPEG-BORN JAMES PEEBLES IS CREDITED AS THE FATHER OF MODERN COSMOLOGY.>>I FIND IT AMAZING TO ALWAYS CONSIDER THAT NATURE OPERATES BY RULES THAT WE CAN THEN DISCOVER.>>THE ACADEMY OF SCIENCE…>>Reporter: TODAY THE NOBEL COMMITTEE AWARDED PEEBLES HALF OF THE PRIZE IN PHYSICS FOR HIS WORK ON COSMIC BACKGROUND RADIATION, THE REMNANTS OF THE BIG BANG, SHAPING OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSE’S HISTORY AND STRUCTURE. PEEBLES GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MANITOBA IN 1958. HE WENT ON TO PRINCETON. IN THE 1980s HE BROKE THROUGH WITH HIS WORK ON GALAXIES, CONCLUDING THAT THE GRAVITY HOLDING THEM TOGETHER IS THE RESULT OF INVISIBLE MATTER. DARK MATTER IS NOW MAINSTREAM SCIENTIFIC THEORY, BELIEVED TO MAKE UP 95% OF THE UNIVERSE.>>SO WE’VE GOT THESE TWO OPPOSING FORCES…>>Reporter: PHYSICIST ROBERT DUBÉ STUDIED UNDER PEEBLES.>>HE HAS TAUGHT US WHAT THE UNIVERSE LOOKED LIKE 100 SECONDS AFTER THE BIG BANG. WE’VE LEARNED ABOUT DARK MATTER AND DARK ENERGY.>>Reporter: ALL OF IT PRETTY INSPIRING FOR CURRENT UNIVERSITY OF MANITOBA PHYSIC STUDENTS WATCHING HIS NEWS CONFERENCE, HANGING ON HIS EVERY WORD TALKING ABOUT DARK MATTER.>>WE CAN BE VERY SURE THAT THEORY ISN’T A FINAL ANSWER.>>IT’S JUST SO EXCITING TO ME THAT I COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT I’M DOING, THE WAY THAT HE’S MADE A DIFFERENCE IN ALL OF OUR LIVES.>>Reporter: AS FOR HIS $600,000 SHARE OF THE PRIZE…>>I OWE A LOT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MANITOBA AND A CHUNK WILL GO TO IT.>>Reporter: LOOKING TO PUSH THE BALANCE OF KNOWLEDGE EVEN FURTHER. CAMERON MacINTOSH, CBC NEWS, WINNIPEG.>>Andrew: OKAY, LET’S GO TO “THE NATIONAL” NEWSROOM IN VANCOUVER WHERE IAN IS TRACKING SEVERAL OTHER STORIES TONIGHT.>>Ian: LET’S BEGIN WITH A STORY THAT IS MAKING HEADLINES IN THE MARITIMES. A SEAFOOD GIANT HAS ISSUED AN APOLOGY FOLLOWING THE RELEASE OF A VIDEO WHICH SHOW SHOW WHAT THE COMPANY ADMITS IS UNACCEPTABLE INCIDENTS AT ONE OF ITS FISH FARMS. WE’LL SHOW YOU AN EXCERPT AND SOME OF YOU MAY FIND THE IMAGES DISTURBING. IT WAS RELEASED YESTERDAY BY A U.S. ANIMAL GROUP. IT SHOWS STAFF AT A COOK AQUACULTURE SALMON FARM IN MAINE AND SMASHING FISH AGAINST POSTS AND STOMPING ON THEM. AND THEY ALSO FOUND DEFORMED AND DECEASED SALMON.>>THE ACTS THAT THE EMPLOYEES TOOK ARE INTOLERABLE. THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD TO CHANGE THEIR PRACTICES. WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO FIX IT.>>Ian: THE NEW BRUNSWICK-BASED COMPANIES HAS FACILITIES AND OFFICES ON FOUR CONTINENTS.>>>A SYRIAN RESTAURANT IN DOWNTOWN TORONTO SHUT ITS DOORS BECAUSE OF DEATH THREATS. THE FAMILY THAT RUNS THE RESTAURANT SAYS THAT IT ALL STARTED AFTER THE OWNER’S SON TOOK PART IN A PROTEST AT A MAXIME BERNIER SPEAKING EVENT LAST MONTH. PROTESTERS BLOCKED AN ELDERLY WOMAN FROM ENTERING, AND THE VIDEO WIDELY CIRCULATED ONLINE. THE FAMILY POSTED AN APOLOGY FOR THEIR SON’S CONDUCT BUT IN A STATEMENT TODAY THEY SAID THAT HATE MESSAGES AND DEATH THREATS HAVE PUSHED THEM TO PERMANENTLY CLOSE THE RESTAURANT AND THEIR DECISION IS MADE WITH A HEAVY HEART IN AN EFFORT TO MAINTAIN OUR FAMILY AND STAFF’S SAFETY.>>>AND ON JUST THE SECOND FULL DAY OF OPERATION, THE BRAND NEW L.R.T. TRAIN HAD MASSIVE BACKUPS DURING THIS MORNING’S RUSH HOUR.>>IT’S USUALLY 10-MINUTE RIDE TO GET HERE. IT TOOK ME AN HOUR.>>I GET UP AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING TO GET TO WORK AT 8:00. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.>>Ian: OFFICIALS SAY THAT A SINGLE JAMMED DOOR ON ONE OF THE TRAINS CREATED A DOMINO EFFECT THAT CRIPPLED THE TRANSIT NETWORK. COMMUTERS TOOK THEIR COMPLAINTS TO SOCIAL MEDIA.>>>I’LL BE BACK IN 20 MINUTES WITH THE STORY OF A MYSTERIOUS OIL SPILL THAT IS FOULING SOME OF BRAZIL’S BEACHES.>>Adrienne: AND WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A SPECIAL TUESDAY NIGHT “AT ISSUE.” WHAT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE LEADERS’ DEBATE. ANDREW, CHANTAL AND ALTHIA JOIN ROSIE RIGHT AFTER THE BREAK. (*) (*)>>Andrew Scheer: MR. TRUDEAU, YOU’RE A PHONY AND YOU’RE A FRAUD AND YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO GOVERN THIS COUNTRY.>>Rt. Hon. Justin Trudeau: YOUR ROLE ON THIS STAGE SEEMS TO BE TO SAY PUBLICLY WHAT MR. SCHEER THINKS PRIVATELY.>>Jagmeet Singh: YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN MR. DELAY AND MR. DENY.>>QUÉBEC DOES NOT NEED TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO OR NOT TO DO. ABOUT ITS OWN VALUES. NOR ITS LANGUAGE. WE SEE OURSELVES AS A NATION.>>ANDREW, ARE YOU A REAL CONSERVATIVE? NO, I THINK THAT YOU ARE A LIBERAL.>>Elizabeth May: PLEASE, GOD DON’T GET A MAJORITY THIS TIME AROUND. BECAUSE YOU WON’T KEEP YOUR PROMISES.>>Rosemary: LAST NIGHT’S DEBATE HAD ONE-LINE ZINGERS, AND MOST OF THEM RIGHT THERE, BUT IT DIDN’T DO ANYTHING TO MOVE THE DIAL. DID VOTERS, DID YOU GET WHAT YOU NEEDED? “AT ISSUE” IS HERE FOR A TUESDAY EDITION. CHANTAL HEBERT IS IN MONTRÉAL AND ANDREW COYNE IS IN TORONTO AND ALTHIA EVANGELICAL HERE IN TORONTO. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW DEBATES CAN BE TURNING POINT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A CAMPAIGN WHERE THE POLLS SEEM TO BE LOCKED. ANDREW, LET ME START WITH YOU. DO YOU THINK THAT ANYTHING CHANGED IN ANY WAY AFTER LAST NIGHT?>>THE SHORT ANSWER IS, I DON’T KNOW, NOBODY KNOWS. THESE THINGS — THEY EMERGE AFTERWARDS AND THE PUNDITS ALL DECLARE WHO WON AND WHO LOST AS IT WAS A DEBATING TOURNAMENT ON THE NIGHT. BUT IT’S DIFFICULT TO SAY IF IT’S MOVED ANYBODY. I SUSPECT THAT FIRST OF ALL, JAGMEET SINGH, HE LOOK COMPOSED AND CONFIDENT. AND THAT MAY REASSURE PEOPLE WHO WERE LOOKING MOSTLY BECAUSE THEY HEARD SUCH TERRIBLE THINGS ABOUT THEIR LEADER. AND THIS MAY HAVE BEEN THEIR FIRST EXPOSURE. SO THAT MIGHT HAVE SOLIDIFIED SOME OF THEIR SUPPORT. I DON’T THINK THAT ANDREW SCHEER WOULD HAVE EXPANDED HIS BASE BUT MAY HAVE REASSURED THEM BY SHOWING FIRE FOR PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THAT HE DIDN’T HAVE ENOUGH FIRE IN HIS BELLY. AND THAT MAY DO HIM WELL IN TERMS OF TURNOUT FOR HIS SUPPORTERS. OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN, MAXIME BERNIER SHOWED UP AND HE WAS ON THE SAME STAGE AS THE OTHER LEADERS AND THAT MAY — AND HE DIDN’T HAVE HORNS ON — SO HE MAY GET SUPPORT ON THE RIGHT-WING OF THE CONSERVATIVES AND THEY MAY GIVE HIM A LOOK. OTHER THAN I DON’T THINK THAT ANYONE REALLY ADVANCED THEIR CAUSE.>>Rosemary: SO, I MEAN, I ALSO DON’T LIKE THE WINNING AND LOSING THING, BECAUSE I’M NOT SURE THAT EVER HAPPENS, TO BE HONEST. BUT WOULD IT HAVE RESULTED IN SOMEONE TAKING AT ANOTHER LOOK, CHANTAL, AT SOMEONE? OR LOOKING AT THEM MORE CLOSELY?>>WELL, OVERALL I HAVE TO SAY THAT EXCEPT FOR PARTISANS, I’M NOT SO SURE THAT VERY MANY OF THE VIEWERS CAME AWAY WITH A SENSE THEY HAD A GREAT ABUNDANCE OF RICHES TO CHOOSE FROM COME THE NEXT ELECTION. SO WHETHER THIS DEBATE WILL DRIVE UP TURNOUT IS PROBABLY DEBATABLE. WHAT DIDN’T HAPPEN WAS A SECOND REALLY BAD NIGHT FOR ANDREW SCHEER AND IF HE HAD AS BAD A NIGHT AS HE HAD ON THE TVA DEBATE, I THINK THAT HE BASICALLY COULD HAVE SAID THAT HIS CAMPAIGN WAS OVER. AND HE WOULD HAVE LIMPED HIS WAY TO A DEFEAT ON OCTOBER 21st. SO HE’S STILL STANDING. I AGREE WITH ANDREW, PROBABLY DIDN’T EXPAND HIS VOTES. I WILL KEEP AN EYE OUT BECAUSE, YES, WE DECLARE WINNERS AND HAVING BEEN AROUND WHEN WE DECLARED JEAN CHAREST OR JOE CLARK WON THE DEBATE, AND THAT GOT THEM FOURTH PLACE, I’M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT JAGMEET SINGH’S — THE GOOD WORDS ABOUT HIM ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE FATE OF THE N.D.P. SO THIS IS WHAT I’M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IN THE POLLS, WHETHER THE N.D.P. GOES UP AND WITH THE BLOC GOING UP IN QUÉBEC, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE SHAPE OF THE NEXT GOVERNMENT.>>Rosemary: YEAH, IT SEEMS — IT SEEMS, ALTHIA, IT’S NOT WHETHER JAGMEET SINGH IS GOING TO WIN. IT’S ABOUT HOW HE EFFECTS THE VOTE SPLITS IN THE OTHER PARTIES BASED ON HIS PERFORMANCE LAST NIGHT AND MAYBE AGAIN ON THURSDAY?>>YEAH, I THINK THAT IS FAIR TO SAY. ASIDE FOR THE SEATS THAT HE ACTUALLY WANTS TO RETAIN, THE SEAT WHERE IS HIS INCUMBENTS ARE RUNNING. AND THEN A HANDFUL OF SEATS LIKE IN ST. JOHN’S EAST AND A SEAT IN ONTARIO. TO ME, I GENERALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID. I THINK THAT YESTERDAY’S DEBATE WOULD HAVE MADE ME MORE COMFORTABLE IN THE CHOICE THAT YOU WERE LEADING TOWARDS. THE FORMAT SO SO TIGHTLY SCRIPTED THAT THERE WASN’T MUCH CHANCE TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST POLICIES. BUT, YOU KNOW, JAGMEET SINGH IS QUITE A CHARMING FELLOW. AND ELIZABETH MAY IS QUITE EARNEST. SHE’S A POLICY WONK THAT CAME OUT. AND THE SURPRISE I FELT WAS MAXIME BERNIER. HE WANTED TO BE PART OF THIS DEBATE FOR SO LONG AND I THOUGHT THAT HE WOULD HAVE A STRONGER NIGHT.>>Rosemary: HMM. THERE WAS A LOT OF FOCUS, OBVIOUSLY, ON ATTACKING EACH OTHER AND TRUDEAU WAS OBVIOUSLY AS THE INCUMBENT THE TARGET OFTEN. I WONDER WHETHER YOU THOUGHT THAT IT WAS EFFECTIVE, AND PARTICULARLY IN THE CASE OF ANDREW SCHEER? AND I’LL ASK YOU THIS, ANDREW, BECAUSE RIGHT FROM THE FIRST WORDS OUT OF HIS MOUTH IT WAS ANDREW SCHEER’S DECISION THAT HE WAS GOING TO GO HARD. THAT THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE. THAT HE HAD PERHAPS MISSED IN FRENCH THAT HE WON’T GET BACK CERTAINLY ON THURSDAY. IS THAT AN EFFECTIVE STRATEGY FOR HIM? OR WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THAT?>>AGAIN, IF YOU’RE TRYING TO WIN OVER PEOPLE TO YOUR CAUSE, PROBABLY NOT. I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THAT OPENING SESSION THAT WEREN’T IN THE CONSERVATIVE CAMP AND SAID THAT WAS REALLY OVER THE TOP. WHY DIDN’T YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE POLICIES AND PROGRAMMES. AND IF YOU WERE TRYING TO FIRE UP YOUR BASE AND MAKE YOU FEEL THAT YOU’RE THE FIGHTER AND THE GUY THAT WILL GO AFTER THAT GUY TRUDEAU WHOM THEY DISLIKE SO INTENSELY, THAT MIGHT WORK FROM THAT STANDPOINT. IT WAS CLEARLY PLANNED AND THEY CLEARLY WOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS. AND THAT’S THE ONLY CASE THAT I CAN SEE FOR IT.>>AND FIRING UP — FIRING UP THE BASE IS NOT BEING ANDREW SCHEER’S BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN THIS CAMPAIGN. HERE WE ARE LESS THAN TWO WEEKS FROM THE VOTE AND HE HAS NOT MANAGED TO EXPAND, TO MAKE HIMSELF BIGGER. THE WAY THAT HE STARTED OFF TO ME IT LOOKED LIKE HE’D HAD A BAD NIGHT IN FRENCH THE WEEK BEFORE, HE NEEDED TO HAVE A BETTER NIGHT AND TO DO SO HE STAYED IN THE COMFORT ZONE OF LEADER OF THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION. AND WENT ON THE ATTACK. AND THAT’S GOOD AS FAR AS IT GOES, BUT WHERE — WHERE AND WHEN THEN DO YOU FIND — FILL THE DEFICIT THAT IS KEEPING HIM OFF FIRST PLACE IN THE SEAT COUNT? HE’S NOT GOING TO BE PICKING THOSE VOTES UP IN QUÉBEC ANYMORE.>>Rosemary: YEAH, AND, ALTHIA I ALWAYS FOUND — JUST TO TURN IT TO JUSTIN TRUDEAU FOR A MOMENT — THAT CERTAINLY THE FORMAT BENEFITED HIM. I MEAN, CERTAINLY, HE WAS THE TARGET. BUT THERE’S SO MANY PEOPLE ON THE STAGE THAT HE WASN’T THE SOLE TARGET AND HE DIDN’T FEEL THE HEAT — EVEN MAYBE AS MUCH AS HE WOULD HAVE IN THE TVA DEBATE, THE FRENCH DEBATE.>>OF COURSE. THERE WERE FIVE OPPONENTS ON HIM INSTEAD OF HAVING THREE. SO YOU HAVE LESS TIME TO TALK. THEY’RE TALKING TO EACH OTHER AS WELL. AND SO IT TAKES THE FOCUS, ASIDE FROM YOU. BUT I JUST WANT TO GO TO ANDREW SCHEER, BECAUSE I DON’T ACTUALLY THINK THAT HE HAD A BAD NIGHT. I THINK THAT HE CAME OUT A LOT STRONGER THAN WE HAD ACTUALLY SEEN HIM, STRONGER THAN WE HAVE SEEN HIM IN HIS PRESS CONFERENCES TO DATE. AND HAVING MAXIME BERNIER THERE MADE HIM SEEM PERHAPS MORE COMFORTABLE TO A CENTRE-RIGHT AUDIENCE THAN, YOU KNOW, THAN THE T.V.A. DEBATE WHERE IT WAS ALL OF THE PROGRESSIVES GANGING UP ON ANDREW SCHEER. WE DIDN’T HAVE THAT. HE SEEMED TO BE, LIKE, IF YOU’RE LOOKING AT YOUR BOUQUET OF OPTIONS, WELL, HE DOESN’T SEEM TO BAD. AND HE WAS QUITE FRIENDLY. SO I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY A PRETTY GOOD NIGHT FOR ANDREW SCHEER.>>Rosemary: AND HE DEALT WITH MAXIME BERNIER WELL TOO.>>AND ALSO A GOOD NIGHT FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU. FRANKLY, HE DIDN’T HAVE A GREAT NIGHT BUT HE AVOIDED A LOT OF PITFALLS THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED.>>YEAH, HE DIDN’T HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. HE WASN’T — YOU WOULDN’T HAVE SAID THAT HE WAS DOMINATING THE STAGE OR THAT HE WAS THE INCUMBENT WHO ROSE ABOVE THE RABBLE BENEATH HIM. HE KIND OF DISAPPEARED FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF DAMAGE DONE TO HIM. THE ONLY WEIRD MOMENT IS WHEN HE FLAT OUT DENIED OR REPEATED HIS ASSERTION THAT “THE GLOBE” STORY ON THE SNC-LAVALIN WAS FALSE.>>Rosemary: CHANTAL?>>THERE WERE MOMENTS WHEN I FORGOT THAT JUSTIN TRUDEAU WAS ON STAGE. AND IT’S PROBABLY AS IT CAN GET FOR AN INCUMBENT. I DON’T THINK THAT I HAVE COVERED DEBATES WHERE THE INCUMBENT HAS WON. AND, YOU KNOW, I WATCHED WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO EVERY CAMPAIGN TODAY AND CLEARLY VERY FEW OF THEM WERE IN DAMAGE — OR NONE OF THEM WERE IN DAMAGE CONTROL MODE. SO THAT TELLS YOU THAT THEY ALL FEEL THAT THEY EXECUTED AS MUCH OF THEIR GAME AS THEY COULD HOPE FOR.>>Rosemary: I HAVE ONE MINUTE AND SO EACH OF YOU GET 15, 20 SECONDS ON WHO HAS THE MOST AT STAKE ON THURSDAY IN THE FRENCH DEBATE. CHANTAL?>>HARD TO TELL. CERTAINLY, NOT A MOMENT FOR JAGMEET SINGH OR ANDREW SCHEER, I THINK TO BE REINTRODUCED AGAIN POSITIVELY TO QUÉBEC VOTERS. SO I’D SAY, STRANGELY ENOUGH, THE BLOC QUÉBECOIS LEADER, BECAUSE NOW THAT HE’S CONSIDERED AS A FORCE, IT MAY BE THAT PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT HIM WITH A MORE CRITICAL EYE.>>Rosemary: ANDREW, QUICKLY.>>I SAY TRUDEAU BECAUSE IF THE N.D.P. DID AS WELL AS THEY THINK OUT OF THAT DEBATE, IF THEY GET A LIFT OUT OF THAT, THEN THAT’S STARTING TO EAT INTO THE LIBERAL SUPPORT OUTSIDE OF QUÉBEC. HE NEEDS TO MAKE UP SOME GROUND IN QUÉBEC TO COMPENSATE.>>Rosemary: ALTHIA?>>AND I THINK SCHEER SO HE CAN MAKE UP LOST GROUND THAT HE GAVE AWAY IN THE T.V.A. DEBATE.>>Rosemary: THANKS, EVERYONE AND LET’S DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN ON THURSDAY IF YOU DON’T MIND. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND BEFORE WE GO SUBSCRIBE TO “AT ISSUE,” THE PODCAST. WE’LL HAVE TWO THIS WEEK. LOOK FOR IT ON iTUNES AND ANY MAJOR PODCAST APP AND OUR WEBSITE, cbcnews.ca/thenational AND YOU AND CHECK OUT MY OTHER LINE OF WORK, “PARTY LINES,” THE CBC PODCAST WITH MY FRIEND ELAMIN ABDELMAHMOUD. WE’LL HAVE A NEW EPISODE ON THURSDAY TOO.>>Adrienne: AHEAD ON “THE NATIONAL,” RARE ACCESS INSIDE SYRIA. OUR TEAM IS THERE WITH THE RUSSIAN MILITARY.>>Andrew: BUT, FIRST, HOW OFTEN DO YOU REALLY NEED TO SERVICE YOUR CAR? THE ANSWER MIGHT SURPRISE YOU. (*>>Andrew: GETTING YOUR CAR SERVICED IS ALL PART OF CAR OWNERSHIP, BUT HOW OFTEN DO YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO GET IT DONE? A B.C. MAN FOUND THAT HE WAS PAYING FOR MAINTENANCE THAT HE DIDN’T NEED, TOLD ONE THING BY THE DEEPERSHIP AND ANOTHER FROM HIS CAR’S MANUAL. AS AARON SALTZMAN REPORTS, THE ANSWER MAY DEPEND ON WHERE YOU LIVE. (*)>>Reporter: AS A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN, LIFE FOR NICK LA PIERRE IS NORMALLY PRETTY UPBEAT. BUT LATELY THINGS HAVE HIT A BIT OF A SOUR NOTE… (*) WHEN IT COMES TO HIS CAR.>>I BOUGHT THE CAR LAST SUMMER AND I’VE HAD IT SERVICED THREE TIMES.>>Reporter: THAT’S NOT REPAIRS, JUST ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND OIL CHANGES. HYUNDAI SAID THAT HIS CAR SHOULD BE SERVICED EVERY 6,000 KILOMETRES.>>I READ THE MANUAL AND THE MANUAL SAYS 12,000 KILOMETRES.>>Reporter: IN FACT, HYUNDAI MANUALS HAVE TWO SCHEDULES, THE FIRST FOR NORMAL DRIVING CONDITIONS EVERY 12,000 KILOMETRES BUT IT’S EVERY 6,000 KILOMETRES FOR SEVERE DRIVING CONDITIONS, LIKE DRIVING ON DIRT ROADS OR IN AREAS OF EXTREME HEAT OR COLD. HE SAYS THAT HE USES HIS CAR FOR NORMAL DRIVING AND HE LIVES IN AN AREA WELL KNOWN FOR ITS TEMPERATE CLIMATE.>>I’M ALL FOR DOING WHAT THE CAR NEEDS IN ORDER TO KEEP IT RUNNING PROPERLY IN GOOD CONDITION. I PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR IT. BUT I DON’T WANT TO THROW MY MONEY AWAY CHANGING OIL THAT HAS BARELY BEEN USED.>>Reporter: SO HE CALLED HYUNDAI CANADA. AND THEY SAID THAT CANADIAN OWNERS HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SEVERE USAGE SCHEDULE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THEIR WARRANTY. HYUNDAI CANADA SAYS IT WAS A MISTAKE. BROADLY SPEAKING, MOST CANADIANS FALL UNDER SEVERE CONDITIONS DUE TO WEATHER AND TEMPERATURE, THE COMPANY SAYS. BUT SMALL POCKETS SUCH AS VANCOUVER ISLAND EXPERIENCE MILDER WEATHER AND MAY BE EXEMPT. BUT EVEN IN COLDER AREAS, SOME ARE QUESTIONING 6,000 KILOMETRE INTERVALS. THERE’S A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT BEFORE A JUDGE IN MONTRÉAL RIGHT NOW AGAINST KIA OVER ITS SEVERE USAGE SCHEDULE. HYUNDAI OWNS A CONTROLLING INTEREST IN KIA.>>IN SOME CASES THE MANUFACTURER HAS GOTTEN RID OF THAT INTERVAL. THEY DON’T ACTUALLY HAVE A SEVERE USAGE, A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE FOR SEVERE USAGE.>>Reporter: OIL ANALYSIS EXPERTS SAY THAT IS PARTLY BECAUSE OIL AND ENGINES ARE BETTER AND USAGE CAN VARY WIDELY.>>SO YOU REALLY CAN’T DO A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL AND SAY THAT THE WHOLE COUNTRY OF CANADA IS A SEVERE PLAYERS, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT TRUE. THE ENVIRONMENT IS NOT TRUE AND THE WAY THAT PEOPLE USE THEIR ENGINES IS NOT TRUE.>>Reporter: BUT AUTOMAKERS CAN’T COME UP WITH A MAINTENANCE INTERVAL FOR EVERY POSSIBLE SITUATION. WHICH IS WHY MOST MANUFACTURERS, NOT JUST HYUNDAI, LISTS A REGULAR OR SEVERE SERVICE SCHEDULE. EVEN IF IT DOES LEAVE SOME CANADIANS WONDERING WHICH ONE TO FOLLOW. AARON SALTZMAN, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Andrew: OKAY, TIME FOR A QUICK BREAK. IAN IS BACK IN TWO MINUTES WITH MORE NEWS.>>Adrienne: AND LATER, CHRIS BROWN TRAVELS INSIDE OF SYRIA WITH THE RUSSIAN MILITARY. WHAT HE FOUND STILL TO COME. (*)>>Ian: WELCOME BACK. WITH THREE WEEKS WITH THE DEADLINE FOR THE U.K. TO LEAVE THE EUROPEAN UNION, HOPES OF A DEAL ARE FADING FAST. TALKS BETWEEN THE BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT WRAPPED UP WITH THE E.U. LEADER SAYING THAT NO PROGRESS HAD BEEN MADE. JOHNSON IS BLAMING THE E.U. FOR THE BREAKDOWN IN THE NEGOTIATIONS. DURING A PHONE CALL THE GERMAN CHANCELLOR ANGELA MERKEL TOLD THE PRIME MINISTER THAT A DEAL IS, QUOTE “OVERWHELMINGLY UNLIKELY.”>>>IN THE UNITED STATES THE WHITE HOUSE HAS OFFICIALLY REFUSED TO COOPERATE WITH THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP. IN A LETTER TO DEMOCRATS HEADING THE INVESTIGATION, THE TRUMP THE INVESTIGATION, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SAID IT WOULD NOT COOPERATE WITH WHAT IT CALLED “AN ILLEGITIMATE EFFORT TO OVERTURN THE 2016 ELECTION.” THE LEADING DEMOCRAT NANCY PELOSI SAID TONIGHT THAT THE PRESIDENT IS NOT ABOVE THE LAW AND HE WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.>>>AND OFFICIALS IN BRAZIL ARE INVESTIGATING A MYSTERIOUS OIL SPILL THAT HAS HIT DOZENS MUCH BEACHES ON THE COUNTRY’S NORTHEAST. BRAZIL’S ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCY HAS CLEANED UP MORE THAN A HUNDRED TONNES OF OIL WASHED UP ON MORE THAN A HUNDRED BEACHES. THE PRESIDENT SAYS THAT AN INVESTIGATION IS UNDERWAY, BUT OFFICIALS SAY THAT THE OIL IS NEITHER PRODUCED NOR TRADED IN BRAZIL. THE THICK, STICKY MESS WAS FIRST SPOTTED LAST WEEK.>>>WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A RARE GLIMPSE INSIDE OF A DANGEROUS WAR ZONE. WE’RE ON THE GROUND IN SYRIA WITH THE RUSSIAN MILITARY. “THE NATIONAL” IS BACK IN TWO MINUTES.>>Adrienne: DONALD TRUMP’S SUDDEN MOVE TO PULL U.S. TROOPS OUT OF NORTHERN SYRIA LOOKS TO HAVE GIVEN TURKEY A GREEN LIGHT. BUT THERE’S ANOTHER PLAYER WITH A HUGE STAKE IN WHAT HAPPENS IN SYRIA. RUSSIA IS TRYING TO BRING THE EIGHT-YEAR WAR TO A CLOSE BUT THAT MIGHT TAKE ONE FINAL AWFUL BATTLE. CHRIS BROWN WAS INSIDE OF SYRIA WITH THE RUSSIAN MILITARY.>>Reporter: SYRIA’S MILITARY IS PREPARING FOR WHAT COULD BE THE LAST BLOODIEST BATTLE OF ITS LONG WAR. THIS IS A TRAINING EXERCISE OUTSIDE OF DAMASCUS, DESIGNED TO INTIMIDATE THE LAST REMAINING MILITANT GROUPS WHO REFUSE TO SURRENDER TO BASHAR al-ASSAD’S REGIME. WE WERE WITH BROUGHT HERE BY RUSSIA’S MILITARY AS PART OF A SWEEPING TOUR AIMED AT DEMONSTRATING RUSSIA’S INFLUENCE IN SYRIA. SYRIANS WERE KEEN TO SHOW US THE BEEFED UP CAPABILITIES OF THEIR ARMY. THIS IS A SPECIAL OPERATIONS DRILL FROM A NEWLY FORMED UNIT. SUPPOSEDLY HERE THEY’RE TRAINING TO TAKE OUT TERRORISTS. TERRORISTS SPECIFICALLY IN IDLIB PROVINCE NEAR TURKEY. THERE ARE BETWEEN 20,000 AND 30,000 JIHADI MILITANTS IN IDLIB, BUT ALSO MORE THAN HALF A MILLION CIVILIANS. ASSAD WANTS IDLIB BACK. WE ALL JAMMED INTO A RUSSIAN ARMOURED PERSONNEL CARRIER AND HEADED INTO THE REGION. HUMAN RIGHTS GROUPS CLAIM INDISCRIMINATE RUSSIAN BOMBING HAS ALREADY KILLED MORE THAN 6,000 CIVILIANS AND TARGETED INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS HOSPITALS. IF SYRIA AND RUSSIA LAUNCH A FULL OFFENSIVE AND THE MILITANTS HIDE BEHIND HUMAN SHIELDS, THE CASUALTIES COULD BE ENORMOUS. ONE OF THE PLACES THAT WE STOPPED WAS KHAN SHEIKHOUN, ONCE A TOWN OF 30,000 PEOPLE THAT ASSAD’S ARMY RECAPTURED A FEW WEEKS AGO. WE SAW PEOPLE GETTING BAGS OF FOOD FROM THE RUSSIAN ARMY.>>[speaking foreign language]>>Reporter: 54-YEAR-OLD WALID SANI TOLD US THAT LIFE UNDER THE TERRORISTS WAS AWFUL. STILL IT SEEMS THAT MOST PEOPLE CHOSE TO FLEE NORTH IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, TO TAKE THEIR CHANCES WITH THE JIHADI OPPOSITION, RATHER THAN LIVE UNDER ASSAD’S RULE. THIS TOWN IS STRATEGICALLY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF THE COMBATANTS IN THIS REGION, WHICH MAY EXPLAIN WHY IN 2017 THAT IT WAS THE TARGET OF A CHEMICAL GAS ATTACK. THE EVIDENCE WAS OVERWHELMING THAT ASSAD’S FORCES WERE RESPONSIBLE. 90 PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND HUNDREDS INJURED BY WHAT WAS LIKELY SERIN GAS. DOCTORS WHO TREATED PATIENTS WITH BURNS POSTED VIDEOS AS DID AIDE WORKERS SUCH AS THE RUSSIAN-BACKED GROUP, THE WHITE HELMETS. AND YET INCREDIBLY RUSSIA AND SYRIA CLAIMED THAT THE ATTACK WAS A FABRICATION. THEY EVEN ATTEMPTED TO SHOW US HOW THE OPPOSITION MIGHT HAVE FAKED IT.>>RECORDING, RECORDING…>>Reporter: THEY TOOK JOURNALISTS TO A REMARKAL COMPLEX, HOLED OUT UNDER THE EARTH, WHERE 150 METRES OF PASSAGES, SOME BARELY LARGE ENOUGH TO SQUEEZE THROUGH, LEADING TO ROOMS THAT WERE EVEN WIRED WITH ELECTRICITY. THEY TOLD US THAT THE JIHADI MILITANTS USED THIS PLACE AS A LIVING QUARTERS AND A COMMAND CENTRE TO LAUNCH ATTACKS.>>WELL, AS YOU CAN SEE…>>Reporter: THE FAKE CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACK WAS FILMED HERE, SAID THE SYRIAN OFFICER. BUT HIS OWN FLIMSY PROOF WAS THIS VEST BELONGING TO THE WHITE HELMET, LEFT NEAR THE CAVE ENTRANCE FOR US TO SEE. THE CONCLUSION IS THAT RUSSIA CONTINUES TO PROVIDE COVER TO ASSAD FOR ATROCITIES AND THAT THE OPPOSITION IN IDLIB IS WELL DUG IN. TALKING TO REGULAR SYRIANS WAS DIFFICULT. ONE OF THE FEW OPPORTUNITIES WAS IN THE HISTORIC BATTERED CITY OF ALEPPO. WE WERE HERE TWO YEARS AGO FOLLOWING A RUSSIAN AND SYRIAN BOMBING CAMPAIGN THAT LEFT SEVERAL THOUSAND CIVILIANS DEAD IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE CITY THAT WAS LEFT IN RUINS. IT’S CLEAR NOW THAT SOME REBUILDING HAS HAPPENED. WE VISITED A STEEL MILL THAT IS BACK IN BUSINESS AND HEARD FROM PREDICTABLY GRATEFUL WORKERS SUCH AS HALID.>>WE LOVE ASSAD. THIS IS OUR PRESIDENT. WE TRUST HIM. THAT’S ALL WE KNOW.>>Reporter: THINGS ARE ALSO LOOKING BETTER AT THE BEAUTIFUL ANCIENT MARKET, A UNESCO HERITAGE SITE THAT HAS BEEN REOPENED EVEN AS THE RESTORATION WORK CONTINUES. WE MET THIS MAN…>>[speaking foreign language]>>Reporter: SHOPPERS WILL COME HERE LIKE THEY DID BEFORE, HE SAYS, BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT A BIT LONGER BEFORE THE MARKET IS FULLY REBUILT. FROM HIGH UP IN THE BALCONY IN ONE OF ALEPPO’S FEW WESTERN QUALITY HOTELS, YOU’D ALMOST THINK THAT THINGS WERE BACK TO NORMAL, BUT THE COUNTRY’S POVERTY RATE IS 90% AND THE WAR HAS DESTROYED THE ECONOMY. AS LONG AS ASSAD REMAINS IN CHARGE, HIS FRIENDS AND FAMILY WILL TAKE BIG CUTS OF ANY INVESTMENTS OR NEW PROJECTS IN SYRIA AND THAT’S TOXIC TO RECONSTRUCTION. WE ATTEMPTED TO PUT SOME OF THE TOUGH QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AWFUL HUMAN COST OF RUSSIA’S WAR IN SYRIA TO THE GENERAL LEADING OUR GROUP.>>[speaking foreign language]>>Reporter: RUSSIA’S INVESTMENTS IN SYRIA HAVE, IN FACT, BEEN FAIRLY MODEST. 5,000 TROOPS ON THE GROUND, MINIMAL LOSSES TO EQUIPMENT AND ABOUT 120 MILITARY PERSONNEL KILLED. AND FOR THAT, RUSSIA IS NOW PERMANENTLY ENTRENCHED WITH NEW BASES IN THE MEDITERRANEAN, AND IT’S GAINED DIPLOMATIC INFLUENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND WILL HAVE A HUGE SAY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IN SYRIA. CHRIS BROWN, CBC NEWS, IN SYRIA’S IDLIB PROVINCE.>>Andrew: TIME FOR A QUICK BREAK. WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH TONIGHT’S “MOMENT.” (*) (*)>>Adrienne: THAT MAN RIGHT THERE, A TORONTO CHEF, IS OFF TO PARIS TO REPRESENT CANADA ON THE WORLD STAGE. BUT HERE’S THE THING — HE HAS ONLY BEEN COOKING PROFESSIONALLY FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. HIS IMPRESSIVE JOURNEY TO THE PASTA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP, WELL, THAT’S OUR “MOMENT” OF THE DAY. (*)>>I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT I WOULD DO REALLY GOOD IN COOKING. BUT THIS HAS COME REALLY EARLY. THE DISH THAT I MADE, IT’S ACTUALLY MY TAKE ON A TRADITIONAL DISH WITH SARDINES AND PINENUTS AND FENNEL. SO EACH AND EVERY INGREDIENT CAME FROM A DIFFERENT CULTURE WHICH MADE IT UNIQUE AND SO I THOUGHT THAT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT ITALIAN-CANADIAN DEAL. BACK IN INDIA I’M FROM A PUNJABI FAMILY AND WE ARE BORN FOODIES. WHENEVER SOMEBODY COMES TO THE HOME WE HAVE A FEAST OF FOOD. I HAVE WENT TO PARIS BEFORE AND I AM LOOKED FORWARD TO IT. AND I AM REALLY HAPPY THAT I GOT A CHANCE TO REPRESENT CANADA.>>Ian: AS I WATCH THAT I THINK GROWING UP IN THE MARITIMES AS I DID, SURF AND TURF WAS AS FANCY AS DINNER COULD GET. AND I DIDN’T TASTE GARLIC UNTIL I WAS IN MY 20s SO I’M IN AWE OF THAT FUSION.>>Andrew: I WATCH THAT AND I THINK THAT THERE’S A WORLD PASTA CHAMPIONSHIP? [laughter] I DIDN’T KNOW THAT THAT WAS A THING BUT APPARENTLY IT IS.>>Adrienne: AND REMEMBER HIS NAME. HE WANTS TO OWN HIS OWN RESTAURANT IN FIVE OR SIX YEARS AND 18 MONTHS AGO HE WAS A PART-TIME PREP COOK. SO HOW’S ABOUT THAT? OKAY SO NOW WE’RE ALL GOING HOME TO EAT. THAT IS “THE NATIONAL” FOR OCTOBER 8TH.

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