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State government finance division hears Help America Vote Act funding bill 2/13/20


PERCENT OF FREIBURG A VISIT PLEASED TO EXPLAIN YOUR BILL CHURCH TODAY.>>HOUSE ABOUT 3;006. I BELIEVE IS GOING TO THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE; NOT MIND THE BILL IS THE MOTION I HAVE IS TO BE REFERRED TO COME OR OPERATIONS; CORRECT I I WILL MOVE HOUSE ABOUT 3;006 TO GO I UNDERSTAND THE CHAIR; THERE’S KIND OF A PERSNICKETY AT TIMES AND WE’LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO THANK YOU. MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE THIS IS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD BILL THAT WOULD PUT US IN LINE WITH 46 OTHER IN THE UNITED RIGHT NOW AS MANY MEMBERS KNOW HERE WHEN WE. ARE RECEIVED MONEY THROUGH PAPA PROGRAM; THE HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DEAL WITH ELECTION SECURITY. IT NEEDS TO BE FOR THE STATE ACTUALLY EXCEPT THOSE FUNDS IT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE. I JUST MY EXPERIENCE LAST COUPLE YEARS HAS BEEN DONE THAT PROCESS HAS NOT ADDED TO ANYTHING TO THE BETTER GOOD IN MY MIND IT’S ACTUALLY BEN I’M MORE OF A ROADBLOCK. I DON’T I FEEL LIKE. ELECTION SECURITY HAS BECOME HELD HOSTAGE TO A THE LEGISLATURE’S BUDGET CONCERNS AND I JUST DON’T SEE THAT IT AS A VALUABLE ADDITION TO THE PROCESS OF THIS BILL DOES MAKES A VERY SIMPLE CHANGE TO STATE LAW TO SAYS WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALLOCATES HOBBLE FUNDING TOO AND SO THE AS LONG AS THE SECRETARY STATE FOLLOWS THE REQUIRE THE REQUIREMENTS AND CRITERIA SET OUT IN FEDERAL LAW. THEN THE MONEY OF IS ALLOCATED TO THEM AND AS I SAID THAT WOULD PUT US IN LINE WITH 46 OTHER STATES. SO THE SECRETARY STATE IS HERE A FEW A SPEAKER GET SOME OF THE HISTORY. HOW THIS CAME ABOUT.>>SECRETARY SIMON WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE THANK YOU TO HEAR THEM WAS ACTUALLY SHE DIDN’T REPRESENT JORDAN. WELCOME TO THE LEGISLATURE. BEFORE YOU AGAIN AND THANK YOU THIS ACTUALLY A SURPRISINGLY MAYBE A TO ALL OF YOU MEMBERS IS NOT AN INITIATIVE OF OUR OFFICE WE APPRECIATE IT BEING BROUGHT FORWARD WE DID NOT INITIATE THIS LEGISLATION. I DO SUPPORT IT. SO SECTION WAS PUT INTO STATUTE AND SIGNED INTO LAW IN MAY OF 2003. I THINK MISTER CHAIR YOU’RE ONLY THE ONLY MEMBER IN THIS ROOM WHO WAS THERE AT THAT TIME SO WAS PUT IN PLACE AT THAT FOR REASONS THAT ARE STILL UNCLEAR AT LEAST TO ME MAYBE YOU REMEMBER MISTER CHAIR; BUT THERE ARE UNCLEAR TO ME THAT’S FOR SURE. AND IN THAT SAME BILL THAT. INITIATED OR STARTED THE STATUTE IT INCLUDED AUTHORIZATION FOR 6 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR THEN SECRETARY OF STATE MARY KATE MEIER TO USE THAT MONEY SO IT IT NEVER BEEN USED TO HOLD UP THE MONEY IT HAD BEEN USED. I SOON AS SOME SORT OVER SECRETARY. FAST FORWARD TO 2018 WHICH IS THE NEXT TIME THIS BECAME AN ISSUE THERE WAS NO THERE WERE NO FEDERAL HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT HAVA FUNDS ISSUED BETWEEN 2003 2018 2018 THERE WERE FUNDS ISSUED TO MINNESOTA AND EVERY STATE IN THE COUNTRY AND THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016 YOU’VE HEARD ME AND MANY OTHERS TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE. NOT ONLY NATIONALLY BUT IN MINNESOTA WHERE WE WERE ONE OF THE 21 STATES THAT WAS TARGETED BY FOREIGN GOVERNMENT SO IN RESPONSE. CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT TRUMP SAW FIT TO GIVE THE STATE ANOTHER BATCH OF THIS HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT MONEY AND IN 46 OR 47 OF THE OTHER STATES. THAT’S AT THE MONEY WENT AS CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT INTENDED TO THE STATE’S CHIEF ELECTIONS OFFICIAL FOR THE PURPOSES SET FORTH VERY NARROW PURPOSE IS SET FOR THE FEDERAL STATUTE. BUT HERE IN MINNESOTA AND IN 2 OR 3 OTHER STATES THERE’S A SPEED BUMP AND 5.3 O IS THIS PEOPLE. IT NEVER HAS BEEN AND I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE. TO MAKE THIS VERY IMPORTANT SECURITY MONEY INTO A POLITICAL FOOTBALL. THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED AND IT WAS NOT DUE TO ANYTHING THAT ANYONE HERE IN THIS ROOM DID IN FACT IT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY IN THE HOUSE I THINK THAT THAT THE VOTE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR WITH THE 26 TO SOMETHING AND HOUSE FLOOR; SO IT’S NOT THE FAULT OF ANYONE IN THIS ROOM SO FAR AS I KNOW. BUT IN THE OTHER BODY IN THE OTHER CHAMBER; THERE WERE THOSE WHO ARE HOLDING UP THIS MONEY FOR WHAT REASON IT’S NOT CLEAR TO ME IF YOU ASK ME IN GOOD FAITH TO PUT INTO A VERBAL PARAGRAPH THE SUBSTANTIVE REASON WHY THIS MONEY WITHHELD UP; I CAN’T GIVE IT TO YOU I CAN’T LIVE THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF AND I STILL CAN’T GIVE YOU THAT SUBSTANTIVE REASON LEADING ME TO CONCLUDE THAT IT WAS YOU KNOW TRADE BAIT FOR AN END OF SESSION A DEAL THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE EVEN INCLUDED ELECTIONS IT COULD HAVE BEEN A PROVISION IN THE TAX BILL OR SOMETHING ELSE FOR ALL WE KNOW; BUT THAT’S NOT WHAT THIS PROVISION I I WOULD IMAGINE WAS MEANT FOR AND MORE TO THE POINT AND I’LL GET TO THE POINT THAT DELAY OF OVER 15 MONTHS ACTUALLY 16 MONTHS PUT US AT RISK. IT PUT US AT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN’T DO IN TIME FOR THE 2020 ELECTION THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE HAD WE GOTTEN THIS MONEY ON TIME. SO THIS IS A SPEED BUMP HAVING THE STATE LEGISLATURE SIGNED OFF. MONEY THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY THE PRESIDENT UNITED STATES AND BY THE CONGRESS AND I JUST ASK ALL OF YOU WHATEVER YOUR OPINIONS ON ELECTION SECURITY OF THE MONTH; THE FUNDS OR WHETHER WHAT WAS WISER ON ALL OF US ARE PASSING THROUGH ON PASSING THROUGH ON THE 22TH SECRETARY OF STATE. I’M NOT GOING TO BE THERE FOREVER. NONE OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER. I THINK NOT WHO’S THE DE OR WHO’S THE AH; WHATEVER ARE YOU REALLY WANT TO STATUTE ON THE BOOKS IN ANY AREA OF GOVERNOR WHERE THE STATE LEGISLATURE GETS TO SHORE STOP MONEY THAT IS COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR AN INTENDED PURPOSE THAT THE PRESIDENT UNITED STATES IN THE CONGRESS HAS A MAGIC THE MISCHIEF THAT COULD BE PLAYED BY ANY POLITICAL PARTY. IF THE ACTORS THAT 60 TO ANY OF US IN ANY OF OUR WELLS IF THEY DIDN’T LIKE SOMETHING THE PRESIDENT OR CONGRESS HAD DONE AND THEY COULD TO SHORTSTOP READ THE STATUTE IN STATE LAW SAYING IT AT MONEY COMES TO MINNESOTA. THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS TO SIGN OFF ON IT FAMILY PLANNING MONEY COMES TO MINNESOTA YOU’VE GOT TO SIGN OFF ON IT. IF CRIMINAL JUSTICE OR BORDER CONTROL MONEY THE LEGISLATURE HAS TO SIGN OFF ON IT WHEN I TALK NATIONALLY TO OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT THIS COLLEAGUES IN OTHER STATES OF BOTH PARTIES AND I SAY DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE’S A LAW ON THE BOOKS IN MINNESOTA; IT SAYS ONE FEDERAL ELECTION SECURITY MONEY COMES IN MINNESOTA. EVEN THOUGH THE STATE DIDN’T APPROPRIATED EVEN THOUGH THE PRESIDENT KNIGHTED STATES IN CONGRESS INTENDED IT FOR VERY NARROW PURPOSES THAT THERE’S A LAW ON THE BOOKS THAT SAYS THE STATE HAS TO SIGN OFF ON IT THEY CAN’T BELIEVE IT AND THEY’VE NEVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING SO I JUST ASK YOU TO THINK NOT IN THE SITUATIONAL MOMENT OF WHO OCCUPIES WHAT POSITION BUT WHY WOULD HE HAVE A LAW LIKE THIS AND AND WHY IS IT THAT WE WENT THROUGH AN UNNECESSARY DELAY; NO ONE’S FAULT IN THIS ROOM OF ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF. THE FEDERAL ELECTION SECURITY MONEY THAT HAS PUT US THIS YEAR IN THIS CONTEST AT A HIGHER RISK THAN THE OTHER WAS ONE EVENT THAT’S THE PITCH. IT’S A LAW THAT DOES NEED TO BE THERE THINKING ME THINK OF SOMEONE WHO’S GOING TO SUCCEED IN THIS OFFICE IN 10 YEARS OR 20 YEARS OR 30 YEARS. AND WHETHER WE REALLY WANT SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON THE BOOKS. THANK YOU FOR PERCENT OF ALL GREAT. THANK YOU. MISTER CHAIR; GOOD MORNING. SIR PETER’S TAPE.>>THE QUESTION IS IS MORE YOU BUT I NORTH IN THE FISCAL NOTE FOR A FEW HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU; BUT DON’T MAYBE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR A BIRD CAN SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL. THE NOTE THAT ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE FISCAL NOTE IT TALKS ABOUT AN EXPENDITURE. A MATCH FROM STATE FUNDS EQUIVALENT TO ROUGHLY ABOUT MILLION. ON PAGE 2 OF THAT IT SAYS THAT THE FEDERAL FUNDS ARE NOT GOING TO BE HOME UP BY IT; BUT THE MATCH IS STILL REQUISITE AS AN APPROPRIATION FROM THE STATE BEFORE. A 12/21/2021 SO. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE AND HAVE WE APPROPRIATE THAT MONEY REPRESENTATIVE FREIBURG OR WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM.>>YES; THE SECTOR SENTIMENT. MISTER CHAIR; THANK YOU AND REPRESENT ALL RIGHT. THE WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS DONE IT WHICH I THINK IS REASONABLE IS IN THAT FIRST BATCH OF MONEY THAT THEY MADE AVAILABLE IN 2018 TO ALL THE STATES IN THE RULE WAS THE SAME FOR ALL 18 PER FOR ALL 50 STATES. THEY SAID THAT IS GOING TO BE A 5% MATCH. SO THERE’S REALLY 2 THINGS GOING ON NUMBER ONE IS THE LEGISLATURE UNDER 5.3 O S TO AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE UNDERLYING MONEY. IF YOU’RE INTERESTED IN THAT PARTICULAR NUMBERS LAST TIME IT WAS 6.6 MILLION 5% OF THAT 330;000. SO THE DEAL WAS. MINNESOTA HAD AUTHORIZED THE USE OF THAT MONEY AND THEN A SEPARATE INQUIRY IS WHETHER HE PUT UP THE MATCH WHAT YOU DID AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH THIS TIME THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SINCE IT ONLY CAME 2 YEARS LATER; THEY SAID YOU KNOW WE’RE GOING TO ASK FOR MORE SKIN IN THE GAME FROM THE STATES WE’RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY. LAST TIME IT WAS 6.6 THIS TIME IT’S 7.4 MILLION; BUT THIS TIME INSTEAD OF A 5% MATCH WE’RE GOING TO ASK THE STATE’S TO PONY UP 20%. SO THAT’S WHERE THAT I THINK IT’S 1 MILLION 480 THOUSAND SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMES IN SO NO WE HAVEN’T DONE THAT YET WE’RE ASKING FOR THAT AS PART OF A SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET REQUEST WE’VE ASKED THE GOVERNOR TO PUT THAT IN HIS SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET REQUEST THAT HASN’T BEEN REVEALED YET. I HOPE YOU’LL DO THAT AND WE HAVE 2 YEARS TO GET THE MATCH. THE KEY THING IS YOU CAN SPEND THE UNDERLYING MONEY BEFORE YOU GET THE MATCH. SO IF THE LEGISLATURE DOESN’T REPEAL THIS LAW AND IF THIS YEAR THE LEGISLATURE AUTHORIZES US TO USE THE 7.4 MILLION WE CAN START SPENDING THAT. BEFORE WE GET THE MATCH BUT WE DO HAVE TO GET THE MATCH AS YOU SAID BY DECEMBER 2021.>>REPRESENT ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR OR A COUPLE OF PROCEDURAL THINGS FOR REPRESENT OF FREIBURG A. AS THIS MOVES FORWARD THEN AND THEN APPROPRIATION MIGHT BE TACKED ONTO IT WOULD BE OUR INTENTION TO BRING IT BACK TO STATE GOVERNMENT FINANCE THEM. AS WELL THIS IS FOR PROCEDURALLY FOR THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL JURISDICTION BEING FOR FINANCE WHICH WE NEED TO COME BACK HERE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS MORE OF A POLICY BILL THAT TO CHANGE THAT BUT IF THAT IF THIS MONEY WOULD COME FOR WE WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE IF YOU’RE IN THIS YEAR’S BUDGET SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET OR NEXT YEAR IN THE BUDGET THE MONEY TO MATCH IT. BUT RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE BILL TO DO PROBABLY PART OF THE APPROPRIATION BILL THAT WE WOULD CREATE A COMMITTEE TO THE TO MATCH THAT MONEY WOULD BE IN OUR ALL. A JUST QUICK QUESTION THEN OF THE CHAIR OF A GOVERNMENT. PATIENTS THIS IS EFFECTIVE OF ELECTIONS; BUT I DON’T IT GOING ARE WE REFER TO THIS POINT TO THE ELECTION SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE IN TENSION THAT FROM GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS IT WOULD GO TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS OR NO. REPRESENT FIBER IT IS MY INTENTION THAT WILL GO TO THE ELECTION SUBCOMMITTEE; WE DON’T.>>YET THAT COMMITTEE IS OPERATING DIFFERENTLY FROM WAYS AND MEANS AT THIS POINT SO I HAVE TO USE THE DREADED MEMO PROCESS TO REFER TO ELECTIONS. BUT AS MY INTENTION TO DO THAT FOR THIS BILL THANK YOU MR. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND MINE IS A COMMENT. YOU DON’T BECAUSE OF THANK YOU SECRETARY OF STATE FOR COMING HERE; BUT YOU KNOW YOU YOU TALK ABOUT THE LEGISLATURE HOLDING STUFF UP. AND IN SOME CASES THAT IS OUR JOB AND WE HAVE IN THIS INSTITUTION IN THIS COUNTRY. CHECKS AND BALANCES BECAUSE YOUR OFFICE WHETHER WHETHER IT’S YOU OR YOU KNOW SOMEBODY FART OF THE FUTURE COULD END UP SOME SOMEONE THERE WHO WAS UNSCRUPULOUS SOMEONE IS NOT BEING A LAW AND UH YOU KNOW WHEN YOU WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY THAT THE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN ESPECIALLY AWAY FROM THIS BODY YOU TAKE WITH TRANSPARENCY. AND SO THERE’S THERE’S A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER HERE BEFORE WE JUST GO AHEAD AND ONCE AGAIN ABDICATE OUR AUTHORITY AS AS THE AS THE PURSE OF MINNESOTA TO SAY ARE WE JUST WE JUST DON’T LIKE THE THINGS THE WAY THINGS WENT IN THE BIENNIUM WE DON’T LIKE WHAT THE SENATE DID SO THEY’RE FOR 4 WE’RE GOING TO CUT OURSELVES OUT OF IT THIS AND JUST LET SOMEBODY ELSE HANDLE IT WHY ARE WE HERE AND THIS IS WHAT WE CONTINUE TO DO HERE AND I THINK IT’S ANOTHER BILL TODAY THAT DOES SOMEONE OF THE CERTAIN THE SAME THING WHERE THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IS JUST CONTINUES TO SAY HUH. WE’RE NOT WE’RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT. SO IF WE’RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT WHY THE RUN FOR OFFICE WHERE WE WEAR HERE. NOW THIS IS THIS IS OUR JOB OUR JOB IS TO OVERSEE OTHER OTHER PARTS OF GOVERNMENT. I THINK THAT THE WAY THIS IS IS WORKING; YOU SAID YOURSELF THAT THIS MIGHT BE EVEN A BEEN A ANOMALY IN THE LAST ELECTION. BUT DON’T I GUESS THE THE TERM I’M THINKING MAYBE NOT APPLY. SPECIFICALLY BUT DON’T THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER DON’T JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS ONE INCIDENT THAT YOU DON’T LIKE DON’T DON’T GIVE AWAY YOUR AUTHORITY. EVERY LEAD IS MORE OF A COMMENT AND A QUESTION NOT REPRESENT A FULL.>>THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR ACTUALLY WE’VE HAD SOME FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH THIS TOGETHER. AS WE WORK TO THAT. COMP A CONFERENCE COMMITTEE.>>IS IT POSSIBLE IF THIS IS PASSED IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE FEDERAL MONEY COULD BE SPENT BY SECRETARY OF STATE EVEN IF APPROPRIATION WASN’T ALREADY APPROVED BY THE HOUSE FOR THEIR SHARE.>>SECRETARY SIMON I THINK YOU ANSWERED THAT BUT GOING AT MISTER CHAIR REPRESENT VOGEL THANK YOU KNOW WE CAN’T SPEND ANY OF THIS MONEY THAT LEGISLATIVE AUTHORIZATION. YOU KNOW I WOULD ONLY ADD UP SINCE THE GET THE MICROPHONE; YOU KNOW REPRESENT GREENER RESPECT YOUR COMMENT. BUT IMAGINE A POLITICAL SITUATION OVERSIGHT IS WHAT YOU WANT IMAGINE. IF YOU GET INTO POLITICS HERE; BUT LET ME JUST GAME THIS OUT HERE IMAGINE THE DFL CONTROLS BOTH CHAMBERS NEXT TIME AND THEY DECIDE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO ICE MONEY. WE OUGHT TO INSERT OURSELVES THAT LET’S PASS A 5.3 O BILL THAT HAS TO DO WITH ICE ATTEMPTS TO DO THE ONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH BORDER SECURITY. ONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE WILL INSERT ITSELF IN EVERY INSTANCE; WHERE THEY DISAPPROVE OF SOMETHING THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS DOING OR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SENDS MONEY TO MINNESOTA TO CONCERN ITSELF. I WOULD ARGUE REPRESENT GREEN THE OPPOSITE OF CHECKS AND BALANCES OUR CONSTITUTION SETS UP A FEDERAL SUPREMACY CLAUSE. I THINK THIS IS AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW AND IF IT WERE IN A MATTER OF THE TIME AND EXPENSE I THINK IT WOULD BE YOU NEVER WANT TO SAY SLAM DUNK BECAUSE THAT’S NOT TRUE. BUT I THINK THERE WOULD BE A VERY COMPELLING CASE FOR HAVING A FEDERAL COURT CHECK OUT THIS LAW STATES CAN’T JUST INSERT THEMSELVES WHEN THE CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT NOTED STATES APPROPRIATES MONEY FOR A VERY NARROW IN PARTICULAR PURPOSE. FOR A STATE TO INSERT ITSELF BY STATUTE OR OTHERWISE AND JUST SAY WE DON’T LIKE IT AND WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT I UNDERSTAND THE OVERSIGHT FUNCTION. UNFORTUNATELY; THIS STATUTE WASN’T USED FOR OVERSIGHT IF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SENATE WAS A SERIES OF OVERSIGHT HEARINGS LAST YEAR WHEN THEY ASKED US ABOUT THE PROPOSALS AND HAD COUNTER PROPOSALS THAT WOULD BE ONE THING. SO I’M SAYING THE OPPOSITE OF LEGISLATING FOR ONE ANECDOTE I’M SAYING THINK OF THE PLAYERS IN OTHER PARTISAN AND OTHER COMBINATIONS AND DO YOU REALLY WANT THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO SET THE PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET HERE THAT WHEN IT DOESN’T LIKE SOMETHING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS DOING IT WILL INSERTED SELF AS A SPEED BUMP AS A SHORTSTOP TO POSSIBLY BLOCK FEDERAL FUNDS FOR PURPOSE THAT IT DOESN’T LIKE WHEN THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS HAVE APPROPRIATE I JUST ASK EVERYONE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE PARTISAN BOXES; THINK OF THE VARIOUS COMBINATIONS OF REALLY WANT THIS PRESIDENT TO CONTINUE TO BE SAID. THAT’S WHAT I WOULD SAY RICK SIMPLE. THANK YOU. MISTER CHAIR AND I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION BUT AS I LOOK AT THE BILL ITSELF; IT WOULD SEEM TO ME.>>THAT. IF MONEY COMES FROM THE HELP AMERICA VOTE AT ITS AUTOMATICALLY APPROPRIATED TO A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND THAT IS THAN IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE’S OFFICE TO USE AS THEY SEE FIT BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. MISSED MY SHARE REPRESENT THAT WILL KNOW WE CAN’T TOUCH IT THAT WOULD BE LEGAL AND PERCENT ACCORDING TO 5.3 OH WE CAN’T TOUCH IT UNLESS THE LEGISLATURE AUTHORIZES AND THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED IN 2018 2019.>>THE MONEY WAS SITTING IN THE SPECIAL REVENUE COUNT ACTUALLY NOT IN OUR OFFICE AND IT WAS SITTING IN THAT ACCOUNT AND WE COULDN’T HAPPEN AND WE’RE LEFT THE LAST STATE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO GET ACCESS TO THAT BECAUSE IT DIDN’T HAPPEN UNTIL THE END OF THE 2019 SESSION. SO THE MONEY WAS APPROPRIATED IN MARCH OF 2018. EVERY STATE IN AMERICA GOT THEIR MONEY EVEN THE 2 OR 3 STATES HAVE A LOOK LIKE THIS THEY GOT THEIR MONEY WE GOT IT LAST AND NOW WE’RE PAYING THE PRICE FOR IT IN THE 2020 ELECTION CYCLE. REPRESENTATIVE WILL THANK YOU MISTER CHANCE TO. EXCUSE MY INEPTNESS IN UNDERSTANDING THIS. WHAT I’M READING THIS BILL TO SAY IS THAT IF THERE IS MONEY FROM THE HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT. IT IS APPROPRIATED TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE. MONEY WOULD THEN GO INTO A SPECIAL SPECIAL REVENUE FUND THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE’S OFFICE HAS. MISTER CHAIR TO ANOTHER REPRESENT VOGEL I BELIEVE. AS WAS STATED HERE THAT THE 2003 MONEY THAT WAS IT. THEY COULD SPEND IT UNTIL HE CAME UP TO MATCH THE MONEY LAST THE MONEY THAT WE’VE PASSED LAST YEAR. THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE YEAR AFTER WE WERE WE GOT IT WE COULD SPENT OF THE GOVERNMENT SO WE COULD SPEND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SO WE COULD SPEND IT AND COME UP THE MATCH LATER AND WHICH WOULD WHICH WE ACTUALLY AND THEN WE THAT WAS PART OF OUR BUDGET BILL LAST YEAR THIS MONEY HERE US AS WE CAN SPEND IT AND COME UP THE MATCH LATER. IF IF THIS BILL WERE TO PASS THE SECRETARY’S TAKE THIS START SPENDING IT; BUT WE HAVE TO APPROPRIATE THE MATCH. EITHER RIGHT AWAY THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR. AND THAT COULD VERY THE NEXT TIME THEY COME DOWN THEY COULD SAY. WE CAN SPEND TO COME UP THE MATCH AND YOU CAN ONLY SPEND IT ON THE THINGS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE BILL FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHAT THEY CAN SPEND IT ON. I THINK HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AND THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS THAT THIS MONEY IF IT COMES IN I’M WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE AS MUCH AS THE SITUATION NOW BECAUSE WE’RE OPENING THIS UP FOREVER. SO WHAT I’M VISUALIZING HERE IS THAT THERE COULD BE FUTURE. HERE’S WHERE THERE WILL BE MONEY IT WOULD COME AUTOMATICALLY APPROPRIATED TO THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND; THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO THEN SPEND THAT MONEY IN ANTICIPATION OF A MATCH. BUT NOW THEY HAVE COMMITTED THE LEGISLATURE TO THE MATCH BECAUSE THEY’VE SPENT IT AND WE’RE NOT GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW AND SO THE WAY THIS THING IS WRITTEN FROM MY IF I THINK ENDANGERS OUR ACTIVITIES AS A LEGISLATURE IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE COULD END UP APPROPRIATING WHAT WE WANT TO APPROPRIATE THE MONEY BUT WE WOULD EITHER WHAT WOULD WE DO SO. I UNDERSTAND THE DILEMMA THAT EXACT I SAY UP TO THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE AND ACTUALLY SAT THERE LOOKING AT EACH OTHER WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO SHOW UP I KNOW HOW WAS BUT AND I ACTUALLY VOTED FOR THE BILL ON THE FLOOR. I THINK BY TRYING TO CORRECT SOMETHING AND THEN PUTTING FUTURE LEGISLATURES ON THE HOOK FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT IT MIGHT BE. IT’S NOT AN APPROPRIATE THING FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO DO AND THAT WAS MY POINT MR. BRING THIS BILL FOR PERCENT OF FIBER I THINK IT’S PRETTY COMMON SENSE. CHECK THEIR STATE SIMON ARE YOU WEARING AND ANY OF THE 46 OTHER STATES THAT DON’T SHORTSTOP AS YOU PUT IT FOR THE LEGISLATURE. THAT ANY OF THEIR LEGISLATURES HAVE EXPRESSED REGRET ABOUT NOT HAVING ELECTIONS SECURITY MONEY BE DIRECTLY SPENT OR ANY OF THEIR SECRETARIES OF STATE. THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE STATE OVERSIGHT OVER FEDERAL FUNDING COMING THEIR STATE FOR ELECTION SECURITY. THE FIRST TIME MISTER CHAIR REPRESENT LONG NO I IN FACT I MET WITH BLANK STARES FROM SECTORS OF STATE OF BOTH PARTIES WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE THIS KIND OF LAW AS WITH ANYTHING THAT COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR PARTICULAR PURPOSE; YOU KNOW THAT JUST ISN’T THIS KIND OF MECHANISM IN PLACE. YOU MAY BE MORE SPECIFIC EXAMPLE WOULD BE IF I CAN PLAY AROUND WITH YOU KNOW A PARTISAN ROLE PLAYING IMAGINE THAT A REPUBLICAN CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT TRUMP DECIDES TO APPROPRIATE HOP A FUN AS FOR THE PURPOSE OF IMPLEMENTING A NATIONAL PHOTO I D FOR BOATING AND IMAGINE A DFL LEGISLATURE USING THIS AND SAYING NO WE’RE HOLDING UP. OK WHAT YOU DID. PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT HER NIKKI HALEY WHOEVER IT IS IN 5 YEARS OR 6 YEARS OR 10 YEARS. WE HAVE THE STATUTE IN PLACE AND WE JUST DON’T LIKE CARE WHAT YOU DID WE’RE NOT GOING TO OPERATE WE’RE NOT TRADING IT FOR ANYTHING WE’RE JUST NOT GOING TO DO IT. EVEN THOUGH THE PRESIDENT AND THE CONGRESS OUT THERE I THINK IT’S A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT I THINK IT’S UNCONSTITUTIONAL I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO THINK BEYOND CURRENT SITUATION; SO IT’S NOT ABOUT ONE ANECDOTE ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE; I DON’T KNOW WHY IT WAS THERE IN 2002 2003. BUT IT’S ALMOST SO HEARD UP TO HAVE A LOT LIKE THIS ANYWHERE THAT I KNOW OF WHERE A STATE LEGISLATURE CAN INTERFERE WITH EVEN STOP. FEDERAL APPROPRIATION A DULY AUTHORIZED FUNDS FROM THE PRESIDENT THAT IF IT’S IN CONGRESS. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND THE MONEY THAT WAS APPROPRIATE WAS FOR ELECTION SECURITY AND WE KNOW THAT MINNESOTA HAS BEEN TARGETED IN THE PAST; WE KNOW THAT THEY’RE GOING TO BE EFFORTS TO TARGET THE ELECTION SYSTEMS. THIS WE WERE THE LAST STATE IN THE COUNTRY TO SPEND THESE FUNDS LAST TIME AND THERE ARE ONLY 4 STATES AS YOU MENTIONED THAT HAVE ANY HOLDUP OF THOSE FUNDS. IF YOU WERE A HACKER LOOKING TO HACK THE ELECTION SYSTEM WOULD YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT; THE SLOWNESS OF THE STATE TO SPEND ITS ELECTION SECURITY FUNDING. SO FIRST SEC OR SIMON. WELL MISTER CHEN REPRESENT I DON’T WANT TO POKE A STICK IN THE EYE OF ANYONE WHO. YOU KNOW MIGHT BE THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES BUT. LET ME ANSWER THIS THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN’T DO THIS YEAR. AND THAT THE COUNTIES AND THE CITY’S WHO ACTUALLY COUNT THE VOTES AND TRAIN ELECTION JUDGES AND ONLY EQUIPMENT THAT THEY CAN’T DO THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF A 15 OR DELAY FROM THE LEGISLATURE. IN 2018 2019. SO WHETHER THAT FIGURES INTO AN ASSESSMENT FROM SOME FOREIGN AFTER READY AFTER ABOUT WHICH STATES THEY TARGET THAT’S FOR THEM TO DECIDE. CIVIL RICH; YOU SAID YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK ON THIS POINT ARE THE EXACT WORDS WERE QUOTE MISTER CHAIR AND I THINK THE POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAYBE JUST HELP ADDRESS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ASK UH HUH AS ROBERTS IF IF YOU COULD THE PROCESS FOR A FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WOULD COME INTO EXECUTIVE BRANCH AGENCIES IN TERMS OF THE APPROPRIATION OR THE UTILIZATION OF THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS.>>THIS>>MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS THERE IS A. A PORTION OF THE LEGISLATURE’S CHAPTER IN STATUTE AND 3.3 0; 0; 5 AT THIS. FOR FEDERAL MONEY EXPENDITURE REVIEW AND THEY’RE TOO SIMILAR PROCESSES FOR WHEN FEDERAL FUNDS. REQUESTS COME IN COMES IN DURING THE BUDGET SESSION AND THEN A SEPARATE BUT SIMILAR PROCESS FOR THE INTERIM AND FOR EXAMPLE IN REGULAR BUDGET PROCESS WHEN THE GOVERNOR SUBMITS THEIR BUDGET THEY’RE ALSO REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THE FEDERAL FUND REQUESTS AND YOU’LL SEE THOSE AT THE BACK OF EVERY AGENCY. BUT BUDGET PAGES. STATUTE SAYS 20 DAYS AFTER GOVERNOR’S BUDGET REQUESTS THAT INCLUDES A REQUEST TO SPEND FEDERAL MONEY IS SUBMITTED TO THE LEGISLATURE. THE STATE AGENCY MAKES AND MONEY INCLUDE IN THAT REQUEST AND LESS WITHIN IT WE NEED A PERIOD A MEMBER OF THE LEGISLATIVE ADVISORY COMMISSION REQUESTS FOR THEIR REVIEW. AND IF AN COMMISSION MEMBER REQUESTS FOR THE REVIEW; THE AGENCY MAY NOT EXPAND THE FEDERAL FUNDS UNTIL THE REQUEST HAS BEEN SATISFIED AND WITHDRAWN. EXPENDITURES IT PROVED IN LOVE FOR THE REGULAR SESSION OF THE LEGISLATURE HAS ADJOURNED FOR THE YEAR. SO THAT’S THE PROCESS WHEN WE’RE ACTUALLY IN SESSION IN THE REGULAR BUDGET SESSION; THERE’S A SIMILAR PROCESS DURING THE INTERIM FOR LEGISLATIVE. ADVISORY COMMISSION REVIEWING JUST TO THE LEGISLATIVE THAT ADVISORY COMMISSION IS GENERALLY AT THE. CHAIRS AT THAT THE COMMITTEES HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER CERTAIN ISSUE AND THEN A SPEAKER AT SARAH DURING AN INTERIM AGAIN THEY. COMMISSIONER AND HE WOULD SUBMIT REQUESTS WE USUALLY GET REQUESTS TO QUITE A GROUP IN AND THEN AGAIN THERE’S A PERIOD WHERE AND KELLY SOME MEMBER CAN REQUEST FOR THE REVIEW AND THAT ESSENTIALLY A STOPS THEN EXPENDITURE OF THE FUNDS UNTIL THAT REVIEW IS A SATISFIED. THE NECK AND WE’LL HAVE A PUBLICATION ON THIS THAT I COULD SEND THE MEMBERS IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON POINT BY INTERJECTING THIS IS 2 TO MAYBE NOT A NOT THAT BUT JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PURPOSES OF.>>THE PRESIDENT THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WAS.>>AN ANOMALY BECAUSE OF HAMA BUT I CAN RECALL A OTHER WELL WE SEE DENOTING CONCERNS ABOUT THE EXPENDITURES WITH REGARD TO TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WITH REGARD TO OTHER PROJECTS IN EXECUTIVE BRANCH AGENCY SO THE DEPICTION THAT THE PROCESS IS NOT STREAMLINED OR AS A WAS ESTABLISH ONLY BY VIRTUE OF THE AMA. I THINK IS A BIT OFF THE MARK AND I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION MR. THERE IS A LONG THAT ANOTHER QUESTION; I’M SORRY. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR. PERCENT FREE BIRD.>>SECRETARY OF STATE TIME AND I’M JUST CURIOUS. THE THE NEW I’VE NEVER BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE AND WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THERE IS SUCH A ROADBLOCK. IT WAS LIKE NIGHT AND DAY WHEN I HEARD THE TESTIFY OR IN A RECENT CONVERSATION WE HAD OVER THE CAPITOL WITH LEGISLATORS OF HOW MUCH STUFF WAS DONE IN THE INTERIM AFTER THE MONEY WAS ACTUALLY FREED UP. DO YOU HAVE A FIX ON WHAT RESOURCES AND WHAT EXPENSES THE STATE OF MINNESOTA OCCURRED TO GET THIS MONEY FREED THAT THAT THE IS THERE ANY I KNOW YOU WERE EXTREMELY BUSY. I KNOW YOUR STAFF IS BUSY YOU’RE TRYING TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD IN THE SECURITY REALM. BUT THE SAME TIME BUT I YOU KNOW THERE IS NO BUDGET FOR YOU TO TRY TO GET THIS MONEY HAD TO WORK HARD TO DO IT. I MEAN WHAT THAT THIS COST THE STATE OF MINNESOTA IN THAN DOLLARS. THAT’S WHAT.>>MISTER CHAIR AND REPRESENT HEWITT HARD TO PUT A PRICE TAG ON THAT. YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF MONEY. THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF PRICE TAGS THAT COULD PUT ON IT IN TERMS OF JUST BUT IN TERMS OF MONEY HARD TO SAY YOU KNOW WE DON’T DEAL FOR TIME OBVIOUSLY SO HARD TO SAY; BUT YOU KNOW A LOT OF TIME EVERTON ENERGY AND RESOURCES SPENT OVER 15. 16 MONTHS OR SO TO GET THAT MONEY FINALLY AND YOU KNOW THE ONE THING I WOULD JUST GENERALLY SAY IS IT REPRESENT GREENE IS HIS RIGHT ACTUALLY IN TERMS OF THE LEGISLATURE HAVING TO BE VIGOROUS OVER THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH DOES MATTER WHO’S IN POWER DOESN’T MATTER WHICH PARTY YOU’VE GOT TO BE A WATCHDOG OVER HOW MONEY IS SPENT I ABSOLUTELY AGREE AND SHOULDN’T ADVOCATE THAT WHICH IS WHY WE DO WELCOME AND WOULD IN THE FUTURE WELCOME ANY SORT OF INQUIRIES ARE ALL UP HERE BEFORE YOU HERE TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE’RE SPENDING ABOUT THE MONEY OR WHETHER YOU BELIEVE LEAVING ASIDE WHETHER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BELIEVES WE SPENT IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR WHICH IS I THINK YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT AS THE LEGISLATURE TO MAKE YOUR OWN SECONDARY JUDGMENT ABOUT WHETHER YOU BELIEVE EVEN IF THE FED SIGN OFF ON HOW WE SPEND IT TO PUSH BACK OR AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH HOW WE’VE SPENT THE MONEY OR WHETHER WE’RE DOING IT WITHIN THE 5 OR 6 CATEGORIES THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SO WE ARE AS EVERY STATE WILL BE AUDITED THE ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION WHICH IS THE FEDERAL AGENCY IN CHARGE OF WELL DOING THAT AUDITING OF THE USE OF THIS MONEY. BUT IF YOU IN THE LEGISLATURE HAD QUESTIONS ARE AS I SAID ONE OF ME OR ANYONE FROM OUR OFFICE TO APPEAR WE’RE HAPPY TO DO THAT YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO KNOW. YOU KNOW SPENDING THE MONEY. WHAT I TAKE ISSUE WITH IS THIS THIS ABSOLUTE SPEED BUMP AND AT LEAST THE POTENTIAL TO SAY NO WE’RE NOT SPENDING MONEY AT ALL OF MINNESOTA MEAN THAT IS THE THAT IS THE RIGHT UNDER THE STATUTE TO SAY NO WE DON’T LIKE THE FEDERAL PURPOSE. WE DON’T LIKE THAT THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS APPROPRIATED MONEY FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE AND WE THE STATE LEGISLATURE WHO DID NOT APPROPRIATE THE MONEY. WE’RE JUST GOING TO YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO STOP WITH THIS LAW. SO I JUST WANT TO DECOUPLE THAT FROM THE OVERSIGHT FUNCTION WHICH IS IMPORTANT AND YOU SHOULD KEEP IT UP NO MATTER WHO’S GOVERNOR WHICH PARTY THAT SEPARATE THEM. MISTER CHAIR AND THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND.>>SECRETARY OF STATE I AGAIN I’M ALL ABOUT OVERSIGHT TRUST ME AS MY INTERIM I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THE LEGISLATOR HAS THAT FUNCTION AND MUST DO THAT. LAST THING I JUST WANT TO SAY IS REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID. THERE’S GOING TO BE THINGS WE CAN’T DO BECAUSE WE DIDN’T GET THIS MONEY AND TIME. BECAUSE WE HAVE A BIG ELECTION COMING UP. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR. REPRESENTIVE DREAM. SENATOR THOMAS.>>THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS GOOD MORNING. SECRETARY SIMON. COULD YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY WHAT WAS THE OF APPROPRIATION AMOUNT.>>REPRESENTATIVE ON OUR SYSTEM SECRETARY SIMON OLD HABITS DIE. SO YOUNG. A MAN WAS THE FOR IS THE FIRST MEETING THIS YEAR SO WHAT YOU GET BACK IN THE YEAR IF THE PROTESTS; THE ORIGINAL OUTLAY TO MINNESOTA IT WAS ALL JUST POPULATION. SO OUR SHARE WAS 6.6 MILLION.>>6.6 MILLION OK AND WITHIN EUROPE.>>IS THERE ANY.>>CATEGORICAL BUCKETS OF CASH THAT ARE RESTRICTED IN HOW YOU USE MONEY IN YOUR OFFICE. MISTER REPRESENT HER TEST. YES. AND MISTER CHAIR; A 100 TIMES THANK YOU. IF THE MONEY THE HOW THE MONEY WAS NEVER SPENT WHAT HAPPENS TO IT. SENATOR SIMON YES; MISTER CHAIR REPRESENT HER TEST THEIR THE FEDERAL IT REALLY WATCHES CLOSELY.>>SO IT SOME MOST OR ALL OF IT COULD BE TOTALLY FORFEIT THEY RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CLAW BACK IF IT’S NOT SPENT WITHIN THE WINDOW; IT SUPPOSED TO BE SPENT IT’S TYPICALLY A 5 YEAR WINDOW FOR THE 5 OR 6 PURPOSES OF FEDERAL STATUTE. THEY WILL FIGHT BACK THEY MADE THAT VERY CLEAR REPRESENTATIVES.>>THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND. SECRETARY DO YOU THINK IT’S NECESSARY FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO FUND OUR ELECTIONS OR THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY AS A STATE TO ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF OUR OWN ELECTION SYSTEM IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.>>SECRETARY SIMON MISTER CHAIR REPRESENTED PROTESTS. I THINK THE FEDERAL PARTNERSHIP GOING FORWARD IS ESSENTIAL IN PART BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTION SECURITY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND TALKING ABOUT THE PHYSICAL STUFF. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ITSELF INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES COME INTO OUR OFFICE REGULARLY THEY’LL BE DOING SO AGAIN IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. THEY DO ALL SORTS OF STRESS TESTS AND A VALUATION OF OUR SYSTEM LOOKING FOR SOFT SPOTS BASICALLY TRYING TO HACK US TO BE WHAT AND THEN THEY COME UP WITH A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HUGE PRICE TAGS AND SO FEDERAL FINANCIAL PARTNERSHIP; I THINK AT LEAST IN THE MEDIUM TERM IS ESSENTIAL. SECOND OUR REPRESENTATIVE CURTIS; THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND.>>SECRETARY SIMON I’M AWARE THAT HUM WITH RESPECT 2 WE HAVE A DICHOTOMY OF ELECTIONS. WE HAVE STATE ELECTIONS LOCAL ELECTIONS. WE HAVE FEDERAL ELECTIONS AND CERTAINLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS CONTROL OVER FEDERAL ELECTIONS. AND OUR OWN STATE CONSTITUTION IS; I’M SORRY THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION GIVES GREATER LATITUDE IN TERMS OF UNIFORMITY VOTING ACROSS THE NATION FOR EXAMPLE WITH REGARD TO FELON VOTING. SOME STATES ONCE YOU’RE A FELON YOU NEVER GET TO VOTE. INS OTHER STATES YOU EARNED THAT RIGHT BACK. IN SOME STATES IF YOU’RE A FELON AND IS STILL INCARCERATED YOU GET TO VOTE IN PRISON. SO THERE’S A GREAT VARIANCE OF STANDARD IN TERMS OF WHAT IS PERMISSIVE WELL WITH REGARD TO FEDERAL ELECTIONS AND UNIFORMITY ACROSS THE LAND VERSUS THAT WHICH UH THE INDIVIDUAL STATES SET UP THEIR OWN RULES AND SO THERE’S THERE’S POTENTIALLY A COLLISION COMING FORWARD AND EDITORIAL IS IS IS ONE. THING I WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR AND I THINK IT’S SOMETHING WE’LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH BECAUSE I DON’T THINK YOU WANT TO BE RUNNING 2 SETS OF ELECTIONS A SET OF FEDERAL ELECTIONS THAT PLAY BY ONE SET THE RULES AND ANOTHER ONE THAT PLAYS BY STATE SET OF RULES. MOST INTRIGUING TO ME ABOUT THE MONEY AND THE ELECTION SECURITY ISSUE IS SOMETHING THAT. WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT LAST SESSION YOU AND I. AND THE FACT THAT YOU WERE BOASTFUL THAT YOUR AGENCY IS A NET CONTRIBUTOR TO THE GENERAL FUND AND I THINK THE NUMBER WAS TO THE EXCESS OF 23 SOME MILLION DOLLARS OR MAYBE SO IT REALLY YOU MAYBE YOU HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON HOW YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY. THE FACT THAT IT’S NOT USED IN GENERATED BY YOUR AGENCY OR BY YOUR TO YOUR DEPARTMENT WOULD SUGGEST TO ME THAT MILLION WAS MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THE SECURITY ISSUES THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT AND THAT MAY BE A LOT OF THIS IS SMOKE AND MIRRORS IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE THE EXTRA MONEY AND HE’S IS THE FUNDING BUT YOUR OFFICE IS GENERATING MORE MONEY THAN IT NEEDS TO OPERATE AND WHAT’S THE BIG DEAL ABOUT THE MILLION.>>REP SECTOR MEMBERS THANK YOU REPRESENT HER CHEST; YOU’RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT YOU’RE RIGHT TO RAISE THAT POINT. I WOULD JUST ADD THAT IT’S TRUE OUR OFFICE GENERATES WHATEVER I THINK IT’S SOMETHING LIKE THAT 21 MILLION MORE.>>HER BIENNIUM.>>THEN WE COST TO RUN; BUT WE DON’T KEEP ANY OF THAT MONEY THAT ALL GOES TO THE GENERAL RESIDENT NASH HAD A BILL LAST SESSION WILL HAPPEN AGAIN THIS YEAR WHICH WOULD ALLOW OUR AGENCY AND PERHAPS OTHERS TO KEEP I THINK IT’S 2%. BILL OF THOSE FUNDS FOR EXACTLY THAT PURPOSE SO REPRESENTATIVE NASH IS NOT IN THIS ROOM. AND I AGREE WITH HIM THAT THAT MIGHT BE ONE WAY ON THE STATE LEVEL TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE PROBLEMS TO SET ASIDE THAT I DON’T KNOW IF THE NUMBERS TO PERCENT OR SOME OTHER PERCENTAGE; BUT ALLOW US TO KEEP WE’LL KEEP IT SO WE GENERATE THAT INCOME BUT WE DON’T KEEP THAT WE DON’T HAVE ANY ACCESS TO IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. SO THAT’S AN INTRIGUING IDEA THAT REPRESENT NASH’S SAYS IDEA. I LIKE THE IDEA AND THAT’S SOMETHING WE’VE BEEN TALKING TO HIM AND OTHERS ABOUT AS WELL TO YOUR POINT.>>NEVERS IF WE CAN GET THIS MOVES ALONG OUR OUR NEXT TESTIFY OR WE HAVE THAT’S USE HERE ON VACATION TIME. AND WE LIKE TO DO WITH SO WE’D LIKE TO GET THROUGH THAT BILL ALSO GET THAT SO THAT PERSON GO BACK TO WORK AND THAT USE THEIR VACATION TIME TO BE HERE SO REPRESENTED HURT US. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS BILL. SEEING NO ONE HOUR INTO MY MOTION THAT HOUSE PILE 30 GOALS. 3; 0; 0; BE REALLY HE REFERRED TO THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE

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