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State Government Finance Division 2/13/20


>>THE 8 O’CLOCK CALL THE MEETING OF STATE GOVERNMENT FINANCE DIVISION TO ORDER AND WELCOME BACK MEMBERS. HOPE WE ALL HAD A GOOD. A GOOD SUMMER ARM AND ALSO TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT MONDAY EVENING. WE’VE GOT TO THE NOTICE WENT OUT; BUT WE HAVE IN THE UN AFTER SESSION; WE’LL HAVE A SPECIAL A BILL GOT REFERRED TO US THAT WE NEED TO GET REFERRED TO AS THAT. WELL BILL IS GOING TO BE AND YOU’RE FERTILE TO US THANK YOU IT’S GOING TO DEBT THAT WE HAVE TO GET MOVED OUT SALT. THE NAFTA SAID SO ALONG WITH THAT ALL WEEK. TAKEN THE ROLE ALL. FOR SUMMER STUDY FOR PURDUE THE MINUTES TO DO SOME INTRODUCTIONS HERE WE HAVE THE NEW MEMBER OF OUR COMMITTEE. SAID HE WANTS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF AND.>>AIM IS TO BE JORDAN. I REPRESENT A 60. WHICH IS A NORTHEAST MINNEAPOLIS AND SOUTHEAST. I’M ALSO TO THE NEARBY DISTRICT WITH A LOT OF GREAT THINGS HAPPENING IN A TOWN TO THE NORTHEAST ARTS DISTRICT OF THE MISSISSIPPI IT’S REALLY GREAT PLACE TO BE IN A REALLY EXCITED TO BE PART OF THIS COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR IN ADVANCE FOR ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS IN MY HOUSE.>>IN SYDNEY’S REPLACING OUR RIGHTS WE LOST OR VICE CHAIR HE GOT MOVED HE BECAME THE CHAIR; A PROPERTY TAX SAYS AND THEY MOVED INTO TAXES THEY WANT TO DO ON THAT COMMITTEE AND AMY AT THE SAME TIME SO THAT I’M ANDREW WE LOST ANDREW CARLSON OUR NEW VICE CHAIR IS JUNE CLEAVER. WE ALSO HAVE A NEW CUT DFL CAUCUS RESEARCHER.>>EVEN A MONTH OKAY; AM THE GEAR ON ONE OF THE ECONOMIC AND IM A GALLON AND A SOLO CAME INTO THE COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE A PHD KYLE ROACH HE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ARE PERMANENT PAGE BUT FOR RIGHT NOW FOR DAYS ARE PH SO ALL. WITH THAT WE CAN GO ON ALL MINUTES; WE’LL GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. I REVIEWED AND WHAT WE HAVE TO MEET 2 MEN WHICH IS WHAT DO YOU WISH TO DO WHAT WE DO THE 16TH THEM IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER. I’D MOVE TO ADOPT THE MINUTES AS RECORDED. MOTION SAID THE NEED TO MOVE THE MINUTES ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I POST. WHICH IS THE MORE WE MINUTES FOR THE 63TH PASSED AND THEN WE HAVE THE MAY 23TH REPRESENTATIVE PAUL. MISTER CHAIR ID LIKE TO MOVE THE MINUTES. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MINUTES ARE COMMENTS AND CORRECTIONS. THE MINNESOTA MOVED ALL IN FAVOR OF. MINUTES FOR THAT ONE FOR THE 23TH MAY 23TH PLEASE SAY AYE I POST IT’S A BIT APPROVED. AS WE GO FORWARD HERE WE’LL GO OVER FINANCE COMMITTEE AND WE’RE GOING HEAR SOME BILLS WE’VE GOT BILLS THAT WE GOT REFERRED BACK TO US WHICH IS NORMAL PRACTICE FROM SESSION THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE BACK OUT BACK OUT HERE. UM ALSO THERE’S SOME CHANGES TO THE WAY WE’RE BE DOING BILLS TO THE MEMO. GOING THAT THIS IS AN AGREED UPON IS SO WITH THE MINORITY LEADER IN THE IMAGE OR AND THAT’S A SPEAKER; BUT INSTEAD OF BILLS BEING SENT TO US BY MAMMAL NEW BILLS THAT ARE COMING TO US WE’RE GOING TO IT SENT DIRECTLY HERE TO US AND THEN WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THEM TO THE FLORIDA GET MOVED TO WAYS AND MEANS ON THERE’S A COUPLE OF BILLS WE HAVE HERE THAT WERE. BILLS THAT WE HAD THAT WE’RE IN WAYS AND MEANS THAT CAME BACK TO US BY NOW WE’RE GOING TO SEND THEM DIRECTLY BACK TO WAYS AND MEANS SAW ALL BUT FROM NOW ON BUILT MANY NEW BILLS THAT COME TO US WE’LL COME TO US. WE REFER DIRECTLY TO US AND THEN WE’RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCEDURE PUTTING TO THE FLOOR AND THEN A VOTE ON THE FLOOR DOUBLE FOR THE WAYS AND MEANS. REPRESENT CALL. I THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR; SO JUST FOR CLARITY WE ARE RETURNING TO THE OLD STANDARD WAY OF MOVING BILLS. WE’RE MOVE TURNING TO ONE OF THE OLD STANDARD WAYS WE GET BILLS; YES; YOU KNOW WHAT THE OTHER THE METHOD WAS A WAY THAT WAS DONE PAST ALSO WE’RE MOVING TO THE ONE THAT WAS MOST RECENTLY. THE THE WAY IT WAS DONE THE MOST RECENTLY BEFORE LAST SESSION. WE’LL SPEAK WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 20 19 TO THE BILLS AS I MENTIONED JUST. AND THE QUESTION OTHER QUESTIONS. THE FIRST BILL ON ALSO 3094. FOR THE END. THAT’S A PROCEDURAL MOTION NEED TO REFER THAT TO TRANSPORTATION SOLD FOR OUT FOR HIM. BECAUSE HIS POLICY ISSUES IN THERE ANYWAY A MOVE THAT HOUSE FILE 3094. THE REFERRED BACK REFERRED TO TRANSPORTATION THE STRUCTURE; YES. GOOD MORNING; MISTER CHAIR. I’M NOT AT ALL OR SHOULD YOU QUESTION ON 39 WERE REFERRING IT ON TO A TRANSPORTATION WOULD BE THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS BILL BE TRANSFERRED BACK TO US IN OUR POSITION AFTERWARDS. REPS HAVE ALL RIGHT THAT’S CORRECT THIS BILL WOULD EVENTUALLY COME BACK TO US BUT THE BUT THE PROCEDURE OR THE POLICY ISSUES ARE MORE TRANSPORTATION AND THEN OUR OUR SO THAT’S WHAT’S GOING THERE. THANK YOU MR. AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL IN FAVOR ALL THE AU MOVING 3094 TO A OF THE MOTION WITH 3094 TO WE REFER TO TRANSPORTATION POLICY AND FINANCE SAY I A BOOST. GET BACK IN THE SWING OF THINGS TO MYSELF FARM HOUSE FILE 2053. I SEE HUNTER I SAW HUNTER THERE. YES; I AND I’LL MOVE HOUSE FILE 2053 TO BE REFERRED TO THE GENERAL REGISTER. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE AND AH YOU CAN START TO PROCEED WITH YOUR BILL THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE; IT’S A PLEASURE TO JOIN YOU TODAY. HALF THE FIRST COMMITTEE HEARING OF THE 2020 SESSION. HOUSE FILED 2053. IS BILL THAT WE HEARD LAST YEAR AND THAT I PRESENTED LAST YEAR THAT WOULD CODIFY INTO LAW. I’M THE OPPOSITE OF PRICE STABILITY WHICH SEEKS TO INCREASE EFFICIENCY.>>IN SUSTAINABILITY OF OF THE OPERATION OF GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA HAS CREATED BY EXECUTIVE ORDER AND 2017 AND REAFFIRMED BY GOVERNOR WALLS. THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT COSTS HAVING TO THE STATEMENT SAID I BELIEVE THAT IT HAS JUSTIFIED. ITS ANNUAL IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS SAVED THROUGH SUSTAINABILITY MEASURES THAT TO COME FORWARD THROUGH THE OPPOSITE OF CRISIS AND ABILITY. SO WITH THAT I’M GOING LIVE TO MIKE TESTIFY ON WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE TAPE.>>GOOD MORNING; I’M MY NAME IS AN HUNT AND I’M THE EXECUTIVE ARM; THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ENTERPRISE SUSTAINABILITY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT THIS LAST SESSION AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY JUST TO TALK ABOUT IT BRIEFLY TODAY; AND HOUSE FILED 2053 AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK REPRESENT OF CAN’T TELL FOR OFFERING THIS BILL. OUR OFFICE WAS BE THAT BAD LEADERSHIP CONSISTENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO MAKE STATE GOVERNMENT MORE SUSTAINABLE. THAT WAS MODELED AFTER SIMILAR OFFICES IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR; THE COMPANY’S HALF. IT OUR OFFICE SUPPORTS THE 24 CABINET LEVEL AGENCIES TO MEET ITS TO MAKE. DEFINE SUSTAINABILITY GOALS WITH A FOCUS ON REDUCING COSTS AND IMPLEMENTING ENVIRONMENTALLY AND SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE SOLUTIONS. THE SERVICES THAT OUR OFFICE WRITES THAT GUN TO IMPROVE GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY OF WHAT SOME OF THE LONG-TERM COSTS OPERATING GOVERNMENT AND TO IMPROVE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY. AND IT’S IMPORTANT THAT ALLOWS THE STATE TO BUT SAMPLE. WELL OUR OFFICE IS MODELED AFTER THE BEST PRACTICES IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IT REALLY IS UNIQUE TO STATE GOVERNMENTS. IN ORDER FOR THE LONG AUTHORITY AND CREDIBILITY; IT’S IMPORTANT THAT OUR OFFICE BECAUSE I IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION STATUTES AND WE SEEK TO SCARE WORK IS KIND OF CENTRAL HOW GOVERNMENT SHOULD THE OPERATING AND CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD. TO LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR WORK YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL REPORT THAT I CAN GIVE TO THE PAGE AND GET THAT I KNOW YOU HAD A ONE PAGER IN IN THE MATERIALS THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED. AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ONLINE DASHBOARD THAT THAT SUSTAINABILITY MN DOT GOV WHICH SHOW KIND OF HOW EACH OF THE AGENCIES IS DOING AND THAT AT THAT TOOL ITSELF IS REALLY REALLY UNIQUE AND STATE GOVERNMENT FOR THAT TRANSPARENT WITH THAT I CAN’T THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THAT COULD TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.>>ANY QUESTIONS AMANDA MEMBERS I I I MISSPOKE WHEN I SAID WE’RE AFTER THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR THAT WAS WE ASKED THE WAYS AND MEANS THAT CAME BACK TO US WE NEED TO REFER BACK TO WAYS AND MEANS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE WE REFER TO THE GENERAL REGISTER. SO ALL MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. MISTER CHAIR; NOT A QUESTION JUST A BRIEF COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE OFFICE ON THE ON THE GOOD WORK YOU DO AND NOTE THAT MINNESOTA HAS ALMOST ALL OF ITS FORTUNE; 500 COMPANIES HAVE TAKEN LEADERSHIP STANDS US OUT NATIONALLY IN TERMS OF COMMITMENTS AND 3 M HAS MADE THEM. MILLS AND CARGO AND OTHERS ON THE SUSTAINABILITY FRONT. I DON’T WANT OUR GOVERNMENT TO BE FALLING BEHIND PARTICULARLY WHEN WHEN WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF US CAN TAKE MONEY FROM ENERGY EFFICIENCY WATER EFFICIENCY AND THE REST SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK AND I THINK YOU REPRESENT A POTENTIAL FOR THIS BILL I THINK IT’S A GREAT IDEA. THE COMMISSIONER CHAIR OR PERCENT CONTROL.>>THE OFFICE OF ENTERPRISE SUSTAINABILITY WAS A CREATED BY AN EXECUTIVE ORDER BY GOVERNOR DAYTON IS THAT CORRECT REPRESENT CONTRACT CAN TRAIL. MISTER CHAIR PERCENT OF ALL RIGHT THAT IS REPRESENT A DOPER STIRRUPS OF CONTROL IS THERE A FINITE TERM ON THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER. CAN TRAIL MISTER REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT.>>THE OR THE EXECUTIVE ORDER WAS REAFFIRMED BY GOVERNOR WALLS AND I BELIEVE 20.>>THANK YOU MISTER RIPP CENT CONTROL IN TYPICAL FASHION WE TYPICALLY CALL THE FI. SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE’VE GOT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE IN THIS AND NOW WE’RE PUTTING IT IN THE STATUTE. IT ALSO AND NOT NOTICE THAT INNER PAYMENT SYSTEM IS THAT THE INTENTION OF GOING FORWARD OR ARE THERE CHANGES THAT WE COULD DISSIPATE IF YOU’RE CAUGHT A FINE THE OFFICE.>>REPRESENT CANTRELL YOU KIND OF PUZZLED LOOK ON YOUR FACE. MISTER CHAIR; I BELIEVE THAT AS SOMEONE FACE NORMALLY LOOKS BUT HAHA MISTER CHAIR REPRESENT OF ALL RIGHT COULD YOU. ELABORATE OR REPHRASE YOUR QUESTION PLEASE I’M I WAS. HAVE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT ALL RIGHT SURE HAPPY>>SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE OFFICE IS A FUNDED BY THE AGENCY AGREEMENTS AS THEY WERE WORKED WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO ASSIST THEM WITH. IMPROVEMENTS IN WHATNOT IS THAT INTENTIONAL GOING FORWARD AND IF SO WHAT IS THE COST. SO FAR BEEN INCURRED BY THOSE ARE THE WORK OF THE AGENCY ON BEHALF OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.>>REPRESENT CAN TRAIL MISTER I BELIEVE ABOUT TO LET MY TESTIFY OR.>>YES OUR CURRENT COST MODEL IS AN INNER AGENCY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS AND THAT IS THE ANTICIPATED MOVING FORWARD. THEN YOUR SECOND QUESTION WAS HOW MUCH IS THAT IN A BUDGET IS THAT CORRECT FOR THE ANNUAL BUDGET IS CURRENTLY $575;000 FOR THE 3 FULL-TIME STAFF; BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE COSTS ARE TOWARDS THE DATA MANAGEMENT ITT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH MANAGING LITERALLY. MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DATA SETS WE TAKE ALL OF THE INFORMATION FOR THE UTILITY BILLS FOR OVER 3;000 BUILDINGS. ALL OF THE FUEL COSTS AND ALL THAT IT’S A GATED INTO ONE THAT BASE AND THEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC DASHBOARD THAT INDICATES YOU KNOW HOW THE VARIOUS AGENCIES ARE ALL TOO. THOSE ARE THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE OFFICE. THANK YOU MISTER SHARON.>>SOME OF MY QUESTIONS KIND OF PARALLELED WITH REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT WAS JUST ASKING I GUESS WHAT I’M LOOKING AT HERE IS THE THE LONG-TERM IMPACT OF THIS IS IT’S BEEN DONE UNDER EXECUTIVE ORDER AND THEREFORE IT WAS THE GOVERNOR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT I GUESS HOW THEY WERE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS THING. WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE NOW THAT WE WOULD CODIFIED IT COMPARED TO THE WAY ITS OPERATING RIGHT NOW. A RELATIVE TO FINANCIAL ASPECTS.>>REPRESENT CANTRELL OR JUST A FIRE. THE CHAIR THAT WE’RE THE MOVING FORWARD AS THE WITH THAT.>>INTERAGENCY AGREEMENTS TO CONTINUE THAT SO THERE’S NOT A FISCAL NOTE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS POSE THAT TRANSCRIPT.>>WELL THAT THERE’S A FISCAL NOTE WITH THE DOZENS CHILLS. 0 COST BECAUSE IT’S INTERAGENCY WHAT. AND SO WE ARE ALREADY UP AND RUNNING FOR PRESENTABLE.>>THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR; AND YES THERE IS A FISCAL KNOW MY OBVIOUSLY NOTICED THAT THERE WASN’T ANY COSTS WHICH IS REALLY A GOOD DEAL WHEN WE GET ALL THE SERVICE FOR NO MONEY. BUT I GUESS WANT WONDERING GOING FORWARD NOW THAT WE’RE GOING TO CODIFIED THIS APPARENTLY THE THE I’M ASSUMING FROM WHAT I’M HEARING THAT MAYBE ALL OF THE OTHER AGENCIES ARE PAYING KIND OF ASSESSMENT FOR THIS IN OUR HOUSE IS WORKING RIGHT NOW AND I GUESS HOW WILL IT BE DIFFERENT ONCE THIS BILL WOULD BECOME LAW. AS FAR AS THE FUNDING SOURCES; THE TO THE REVENUE SOURCES. WHERE’S THE REVENUE COMING FROM NOW AND WITH THAT CHANGE OR HOW WOULD IT CHANGE IF INDEED THIS IS INACTIVE REPRESENTED CANTOR.>>THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND REPRESENT A WERE NOT.>>ANTICIPATING ANY IN THE FUNCTION OF THAT BY THE FUNDING MECHANISM. FOR THIS OFFICE BUT THE PRICE OF SEEN ABILITIES SHOULD THIS BILL BECOME IT. IT ESSENTIALLY IS. JUST PRESERVATION FOR THE CONTINUITY OF THE SOLVENT OR OF THE OF THE LONG TERM EXISTENCE OF OF THE OFFICE SO EVERYTHING ELSE KIND OF REMAINS CONSTANT REPRESENT A VOCAL. MISTER CHAIR.>>I THINK THIS SHERIFF SO I’M SORRY IF NOT ASKING THE QUESTION. WHERE IS THE FUNDING HOW IS IT BEING FUNDED RIGHT WHO’S PAYING THE BILL RIGHT NOW AND HOW IS THE MONEY COMING IN TO THE. ENTITY RIGHT NOW WAS ACTUALLY GETTING THE MONEY. THEY’RE CUTS THAT WOULD BE AN EASIER PLACE TO START. SHE BECAUSE OF ALL THE TEST.>>AGAIN THERE’S INTERAGENCY AGREEMENTS WITH THE 24 CABINET LEVEL AGENCIES THAT EACH CONTRIBUTE UP OR CHILL AMOUNT TOWARDS THAT EFFORT THEY SAID WE PROVIDE A LOT OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FOR THEM AND MANAGING THEIR DATA AND THEIR METRICS I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE’RE SO I. URGENT NEED TO KIND OF THING IS WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO MEASURE WHAT IS BEING DONE I THINK THIS IS REALLY HELP THE AGENCY’S FOCUS THEIR ATTORNEY TENSION ON EFFORTS THAT ARE CAN REDUCE THEIR ENERGY REDUCE THEIR WATER WHEN THEY LOOK AT ALL THESE NUMBERS THAT REALLY HELPS THEM AS I SAID HAVE A FOCUS ON ON ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING TO HELP THEM REDUCE THE FOSSIL FUELS OR ENERGY OR WATER; BUT THEN ALSO REDUCE THEIR LONG-TERM OPERATING COSTS AND THEREBY SAVING TAXPAYERS MONEY IN THE FUTURE. PERCENT OF ALL THANK YOU.>>AND THAT’S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT THANK YOU MS. STIR UP BECAUSE I THINK WE STARTED SOMETHING LIKE THIS CALLED MINUTE MANY YEARS AGO; AND ALL OF THE AGENCIES ARE NOW PAYING A FEE TO THIS NEW THING THAT WE STARTED IN MY CONCERN HERE IS THAT WE ARE CAUGHT A FIRING SOMETHING AND STARTING ANOTHER EMPTY T THAT WILL BE CHARGING ALL OF THESE OTHER AGENCIES WHICH THEN ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO US ASKING FOR MORE MONEY BECAUSE THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER BILL TO PAY AND I GUESS. MAYBE THERE IS NO I’M A FISCAL NOTE. MAYBE THERE IS NO. DOLLAR THING THAT COULD BE SAID THAT THERE ISN’T BUT THERE IS BECAUSE ONCE WE CODIFIED THIS WE’RE GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THESE AGENCIES COMING BEEF FOR US AND IT’S GOING TO BE PART OF THEIR BUDGET AND. YOU KNOW WE KIND OF LOSE CONTROL AND THAT’S THAT’S MY CONCERN MISTER CHAIRS OUT WHEN WE DO STUFF LIKE THIS. THAT WE’RE PERMANENT LEE MAKING ADDITIONS TO EACH AGENCIES BUDGET AND THEREFORE WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND THIS IF WE CAUGHT A FIAT AND I’M NOT SO SURE THAT IT’S READY FOR PRIME TIME YET UNTIL WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT’S GOING TO COST US IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE ONCE WE DO IT; THEY’RE GOING TO COMING SITTING RIGHT THERE IN THAT CHAIR AND SAY WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS MONEY BECAUSE YOU STARTED THIS ENTITY.>>THANK YOU MISTER AND TO REPRESENT CONTROL OR THE TEST FOR THESE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE WITH THE VARIOUS AGENCIES. FOR A TERM CERTAIN AND SO ONE AGENCY COULD DECIDE. THEY DON’T NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE NEED FOR THE CORRECT.>>AGAIN THAT THERE’S THIS ASSUMPTION THAT UNDER EXECUTIVE ORDER THE EXECUTIVE ORDER DIRECT ALL THE 24 CABINET LEVEL AGENCIES TO DO THE SCHOOLS. THERE ARE AND EXECUTIVE THERE IS AN INTERAGENCY AGREEMENT SO I THINK THAT THEY DIDN’T FIND VALUE IN THE WAR WORK THEY COULD NOT DO THAT IN OUR AGENCY AND ITS FOR 2 YEAR PERIOD FOR THE BIENNIUM.>>SO MUST OUR CHILDREN THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND SO IF AN INNER AGENCY FOUND THEMSELVES. A DILEMMA WITH THEIR OWN BUDGET. BUT THEY WERE OBLIGATED UNDER THE 2 YEAR CONTRACT WHERE THAT MONEY COME FROM.>>AND REPRESENTATIVE I’M NOT SURE WHERE EACH OF THE AGENCIES HAVE TAKEN THE BATON ITEMS FOR THE REGION TO FUND THE ACTION SIGN IT. NOT QUALIFIED TO PEOPLE TO ANSWER THAT.>>WELL THE QUESTION MISTER REPRESENT ALL RIGHT. THANK REPRESENT CONTROL WHETHER OR NOT THIS A BILL BECOMES LAW. THE AGENCY WILL CONTINUE UNDER THE EXECUTIVE ORDER UNTIL SUCH TIME AS ANOTHER GOVERNOR DECIDES THE THE TO REAFFIRM THAT OR NOT IS THAT CORRECT.>>REPRESENTATIVE CANTRELL MISTER CHAIR REPRESENT OPERATE. YES THAT’S MY UNDERSTANDING. MISTER CHAIR; SO A LOT OF ALL RIGHT JUST AS A KIND OF THE. FINAL COMMENT. UH WHAT WE’RE TRYING TO DO IS WE’RE. MAKE SURE THAT AN AGENCY STAYS IN PLACE WHETHER OR NOT THE AGENCIES THAT ARE NOT AS REPRESENTED GLOBAL SAID; I THINK WE’RE TRYING TO DO WITH WHAT THIS IS ATTEMPTING TO DO IS TO ESTABLISH. ANOTHER AGENCY THAT WOULD BECOME BUT BECOME DIP AND AND UPON FUNDING FROM THE AGENCIES WHICH THEN AS REPRESENT A VOCAL SUGGESTED RAISES THEIR BUDGETS AS WELL SO I WOULD URGE SHOULD A CLOSER LOOK AT THIS. THAT WE’RE TAKING RIGHT NOW FROM AN EXPENDITURE PERSPECTIVE.>>MEMBERS AT THIS IS A BILL THAT WE WORK AND WE HAVE THIS LAST YEAR WE MOVED IT OUT OF HERE 2 WAYS AND MEANS THAT IN. HAVE WE ALL SCHOOLS WILL BE HELD OVER POSSIBLE INCLUSION AND. AND WE’LL IT WAS IN IRAQ AT THE AUTONOMOUS BILL LAST YEAR THAT DIDN’T QUITE MAKE IT PAST THE CALM CONFERENCE COMMITTEE SAW WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION LAST YEAR BUT.>>THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE CONTROL FOR YOUR WORK IN THIS HUNT WHO WRITES ONE THE CONVERSATION IS I’M LOOKING THROUGH THE REPORT HERE AND A 2018 ENTERPRISE SCORE CARD.>>I SEE THAT THIS OFFICES AS HELP. THE 0.32 MILLION COSTS SINCE 2002 1005 WHICH IS ABOUT 2.5 MILLION PER YEAR. SO IT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD VALUE FOR THE STATE GOVERNMENT AS A WHOLE AND I FEEL LIKE WE’RE LOSING SIGHT OF THE FOREST FOR THE TREES IN SOME OF THIS CONVERSATION SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD EFFORT THAT SHOULD CONTINUE. A LOT OF COMMENT AND A QUESTION REPRESENTATIVE HER TIME.>>THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND A. CANTRELL MY QUESTION KIND OF SIDEWAYS ON REPRESENTATIVE ALTHOUGH WAS ASKING ABOUT WAS LOOKING AT THIS A BROCHURE HERE THAT WAS JUST DISTRIBUTED. ONE OF GOALS WAS A 25%. TOTAL SPENDING PRIORITY. ON PRIORITY CONTRACTS THAT THEY BE SUSTAINABLY PURCHASE. AND THAT’S IN THE AREA OF PROCUREMENT. MADE ME WONDER A LITTLE BIT WITH 24 AGENCIES BEING REQUIRED THAT. SPENDING ON THEIR PRIORITY CONTRACTS OR SUSTAINABLY PURCHASES THAT MEAN THAT A LOT OF STATE SPENDING FROM THESE 25 AGENCIES MAY COME WITH A HIGHER CONTRACT COST IN ORDER TO. THESE SUSTAINABLY PURCHASED AND IF SO DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS OR WHAT KIND OF A INCREASE CAUSE IT’S GOING TO BE. AND WITH REGARD TO OUR BUDGETARY PROCESS IN THE FUTURE. SURE I CAN ANSWER.>>FROM IRAN MAY HAVE TO TURN REPRESENT OF CIRCLE THE PRIORITY CONTRACTS FOR EXAMPLE FOR SUSTAINABILITY IS IN ALL OF OUR COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND ELECTRONICS FOR EXAMPLE; WE BUY ENERGY STAR RATED APPLIANCES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE LOWER ENERGY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH OPERATING THOSE THINGS THEREBY SAVING THE AGENCY’S MONEY. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IT DOESN’T APPLY TO EVERY YOU KNOW TO EVERYTHING. BUT YOU KNOW THAT’S ONE THE MAIN PIECES THE STATE IS ACTUALLY BEEN NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED FOR OUR SUSTAINABLE PURCHASING. PROCEDURES SO THAT WE’RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT; BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY SOME OF THE LONG-TERM FISCAL IMPACTS OF THOSE PURCHASES.>>THANK YOU I THINK THAT HELPS CLARIFY THOSE THINGS IT IS PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO BIND FIXTURES ARE THINGS THAT ARE. I’M GOING TO BE OPERATING I I GUESS I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE CONTRACTS WITH AN AGENCY LOOKING MAYBE A TRANSPORTATION CONTRACT FOR EXAMPLE OF OF REQUIRING A CERTAIN MATERIALS BEING USED THAT ARE SUSTAINABLE AND JUST I’M WONDERING IF IT WAS GOING THAT DEEP IN THE WEEDS WITH A THIS BUSINESS OF A PRIORITY CONTRACTS; WHATEVER THAT MEANS.>>CHAIR AT NET COMES THIS AND IT’S A PRETTY MORNING AND IT’S REALLY IN THE I THINK DON’T LOVE THE PROTOCOL. CIARAN REPRESENTATIVE NO IT HASN’T. GONE INTO THE CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AS I SAID IT’S THE PUBLIC THAT ITS REGULAR DAILY PRODUCTS THAT WE TIES FOR EXAMPLE ANOTHER ONE IS THERE’S A REQUIREMENT ABOUT BUYING 30% RECYCLED PAPER AND THAT PAPER. MANY AGENCY 5 FROM ONE OF THE CASCADE WHICH IS IN NORTHERN MINNESOTA. YOU KNOW HELPING SUPPORT; MINNESOTA COMPANIES ARE MINNESOTA JOBS. AS WELL AS HAVING AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. REPRESENTIVE THANK YOU MR.>>CHAIR AND FOR CLARIFICATION ON PAGES 18 IN NEAR GLOSSY.>>I’M I’M SEEING>>ENTRIES OF MINUS A 100%. SO IF THAT’S IN WATER. WHAT I CAN INTERPRET THAT AS BEING A 15% INCREASE IN UTILIZATION OF WATER.>>CHAIR REPRESENTATIVE AT EXACTLY WHAT’S NUMBER YOU PLAY 1819 O K THOSE OKAY. YES; WE HAVE AN ANNUAL SCORECARD FOR EACH OF THE AGENCIES AND THIS WOULD BE THEIR PROGRESS TOWARDS MEETING THAT GOAL I THINK WATER HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE FOR SOME OF THE IT’S NOT SOMETHING ENERGY USE A LOT OF THE AGENCIES HAVE BEEN TRACKING IT THAT PUT THEIR DATA INTO A DATABASE CALLED BEAT 3 MEN GETS LOADED UP INTO OUR SUSTAINABLE BUT ACCORDING TO A LOT OF THE AGENCY’S WORK TRACKING THEIR WATER CONSUMPTION. THERE ARE CAMPUSES FOR EXAMPLE THAT MAY BE. WELL AND THEY DON’T HAVE A METER ON THAT MORE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY ACTUALLY CONSUME SOME OF THE AGENCIES MIGHT ONLY HAVE ONE METER OF WATER METER FOR MULTIPLE BUILDINGS WHERE THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE SEPARATELY METERED INDOOR WATER USE FROM EXTERNAL WATER WATERS AN AREA THAT NEEDS FOR MOST OF THE FOR MANY OF THE AGENCY’S REPRESENT QUITE ARE THANK YOU MISTER>>THE TEST FOR DIDN’T ASK THE QUESTION OF MINUS A 100. SCORE YOU KNOW IS THAT BEING NEGATIVE YOUR GOAL OF REDUCING 15% SEAR INCREASING. ALSO NOTICE THAT YOU STOP AT A 100 SO IT ISN’T REALLY CLEAR IS YOU KNOW THEY’VE GONE BEYOND THAT IN EITHER DIRECTION. BUT THE TEST FIRE DID TOUCH ON THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE A HARD DATA COLLECTION AND TRACKING ARE THERE ANY OTHER AREAS WHERE THERE’S POR DATA COLLECTION TRACK TO THIS BEING UTILIZED TO GENERATE THIS BEAUTIFUL GLOSSY DOCUMENT.>>CHAIR REPRESENT THE ONLY TO GO BACK AND LOOK EXACTLY I DON’T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. SOME OF THE AGENCIES MIGHT HAVE HAD AND THOSE SOME OF THEM AREN’T BEAST BUILDINGS WHERE WE MAY NOT HAVE GOOD DATA FOR THEM THEIR FACILITIES ARE IN FOR AS I SAID I THINK WATER IS SOMETHING THAT WE’VE BEEN IMPROVING ON COLLECTING THE DATA FOR THE VARIOUS AGENCIES; BUT IN LEAST BUILDINGS. THEY MAY NOT BE SEPARATELY NEED OR FOR THAT OFFICE SPACE THAT ONE AGENCY OCCUPIES FOR EXAMPLE SO BUT I WILL NEED TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON WHY THE PERCENT SO WE’RE LOOKING AT EDUCATION AND HUMAN SERVICES AND NOW NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.>>I THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR. YOU’VE BEEN TOUCHING ON THE WATER. I ASSUME WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER HANDLE ON FLEET AND I’M NOTICING MULTIPLE ONES THAT ARE OR A MINUS A 100% AND IS AGAIN THAT MEANING THAT THERE’S INSTEAD OF A 100% GOAL REDUCTION OF 30%. DOES THAT MEAN THAT ALL OF THESE OUR 30% GREATER. USE OF FOSSIL FUELS OR ARE JUST TRYING TO GET CLARITY BECAUSE YOU’RE YOU’RE WHOLE BEING IS THE FEEDBACK INFORMATION DATA. SO THAT AGENCIES CAN MAKE A BETTER DECISION AND IF IT’S NOT CLEAR ABOUT THE DATA AND IT’S NOT CLEAR ABOUT THE ACCURACY OF THE DATA COLLECTION. IT’S SORT OF THE VALUE SOME OF THE THE FUNCTIONALITY HERE SO YOU TALK ABOUT CAN YOU ENLIGHTEN US ON THE FLEET.>>REPRESENTATIVE THE THE SCORE CARD NUMBERS ARE THEIR PROGRESS. THE PERCENT ITS PROGRESS TOWARDS GOAL WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT. DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO EXPLAIN WE WERE TRYING TO GIVE AN INDICATION THAT WE HAVE THE CERTAIN PERCENT PROGRESS TOWARDS GOAL ARE THINK PERCENT REDUCTION GOAL AND THEY MAY BE NOT MEETING THAT THE AND SORRY I’M CONFUSED HERE OUT START OVER AGAIN. SPECIFICALLY AND THIS IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME; I’M ON 2018 2018 IF YOU MIGHT RECALL HOW WAS PULLED A COLDER WINTER AND A WARMER SUMMER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. SO IN FOSSIL FUEL CONSUMPTION. THE AGENCY THE ENTIRE ENTERPRISE TO CONSUME MORE FOSSIL FUELS BECAUSE PRIMARILY BECAUSE MEN DIET AND MET METROPOLITAN COUNCIL THAT A LOT OF PLOWING AND USED A LOT OF FUEL FOR OPERATING AND THOSE AGENCIES FOR EXAMPLE; THE FUEL CONSUMPTION. I THINK MET COUNCIL CONSUMES ABOUT 60% OF ALL THE FUEL THAT THE ENTIRE ENTERPRISE CONSUMES AND DNR OR EXCUSE IN DOT IS ABOUT 24% THAT THINK 25%. SO WHEN THOSE AGENCIES USE A LOT MORE FUEL THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR AS THEY DID IN 18 BECAUSE THEY ARE PLOWING STREETS AND HIGHWAYS AND OTHER THINGS THAT THROWS THE SCORE SAW FOR THE ENTIRE ENTERPRISE THERE WERE ALSO OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAD NEGATIVE IMPACTS THE ENERGY CONSUMED IN 20 18 IN BUILDINGS WAS ALSO GREATER THAN IT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR BECAUSE IT WAS A COLDER WINTER AND A WARMER SUMMER.>>MISTER CHAIR I GOT A I UNDERSTAND ALL THE ANECDOTAL COMMENTS AND I AGREE WITH AND YOU KNOW I’VE LIVED IN MINNESOTA; SO WE UNDERSTAND HOWEVER; THE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN AIMED AT WHAT IS RECORDED. ON PAGES 1819 AND I’M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU GIVE YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF GREEN 100%. AND THEN YOU HAVE AN AGGREGATED FOR THE ENTERPRISE TO JUST STOP THAT. AND A 100% GREEN AND STOP AT A 100% NEGATIVE AND RED. I’M I’M TRYING TO INTERPRET WHAT THESE NUMBERS MEAN YOU’VE GOT GOALS ANY. AND SO MAYBE I’M WITH YOU DON’T YOU COULD LET THE COMMITTEE KNOW. WHAT DOES A 100% ACTUALLY MEAN. THAT AND THEN TO LET THE COMMITTEE KNOW IN THIS CAN BE OFFLINE AF AFTER THIS HEARING LET THE COMMITTEE WHAT AREAS WE HAVE QUESTIONABLE OR LACK OF DATA COLLECTION SO THAT WE’RE NOT REALLY CERTAIN ABOUT WHAT WORD FEEDING BACK SO WE CAN KNOW HOW THINGS COULD BE IMPROVED AND THAT DO A BETTER JOB OF SUPPLYING THE MISSION STATEMENT OF IMPROVING THE UTILIZATION OF RESOURCES. AND I APOLOGIZE I I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF OF THE DETAILS OF THE MECHANICS THAT WAS IN THIS AND MISTER CHAIR OF THAT INFORMATION COULD BE DISSEMINATED TO ALL THE MEMBERS SO WE CAN HAVE A FURTHER UNDERSTANDING AND IF THIS DOES. HERE ON THE FLOOR AND WE CAN MORE INTELLIGENTLY AND INFORMED MAKE A DECISION.>>THIS AND IF YOU CAN MAKE GET THAT INFORMATION IS REQUESTING BACK TO US I KNOW THIS IS HELP IS JUST STARTING UP AND GO 2018 AND THAT’S WHY WE WANT TO GET COULDN’T STATUE SO WE CAN CONTINUE CONTRACT IS OVER TIME.>>YES; THANK YOU CHAIR; I WANT TO OUR DEBT IS A VERY GOOD AND THAT WHEN IT SAYS A 100% AND GREEN IT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE MET THE GOAL OF THE 30% PROTECTION OR SO IN THE AGENCIES UNDER GREENHOUSE; GAS EMISSIONS. THOSE AGENCIES PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE DECOMPOSITION OF THE ELECTRIC GRID HAVE MET THOSE GOALS IF THERE ARE A 100% NEGATIVE THAT MEANS THAT THEY ARE MORE THAN 30%. NEGATIVE PROGRESS TOWARDS MEETING THOSE SCHOOLS. AND THEN THAT THAT IS VERY GOOD BUT I CAN HAPPILY CIRCLE BACK.>>REPRESENT A GREEN AT THE LAST QUESTION WE NEED TO GET MOVED ON HERE GO THERE ARE OTHER TO SECURE I WASN’T IN ASKING WHETHER YOU’RE A YEAR IS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR ME.>>A LOST THE FIRST WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT COST SAVINGS. ARE ARE YOUR NUMBERS INDICATORS ONLY OF WHAT WAS SAVED OR DOES OR DOES THAT SAVINGS ALSO INCLUDE WHAT IT COSTS TO DO THESE UPGRADES.>>MISS HUNT CHAIR REPRESENTATIVE ITS COST AVOIDANCE SO THERE’S GOING TO BE A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE YOU’RE INVESTING ENERGY EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS PRODUCE IN THE WANT OF THE COSTS OF THOSE BUILDINGS SO THERE MAY BE A SHORT TERM; THEY HAVEN’T SAVINGS THAT HEAR IT BUT WHAT WE’RE ALSO SAYING ARTICULATING IS THIS IS THE COSTS OF WAITED FOR OPERATING THOSE BUILDINGS INTO THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE KNOW ENERGY COSTS FOR EXAMPLE CONTINUE TO INCREASE.>>WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT; BUT THEN YOU KNOW THE COMMENT ON THAT IS THAT IF YOU YOU KNOW IF YOU’RE IF YOU BUY A ENERGY EFFICIENT WATER HERE AND NOW WATER HEATER COST YOU 7 DOLLARS AND OVER THE COURSE OF OF THE LIFE OF THAT WATER HEATER YOU MIGHT SAY 500 AND SO THOSE ARE THINGS TO CONSIDER. YOU ALSO SAID THAT.>>100% RATINGS HERE YOU KNOW WHATEVER YOU’RE THE TRANSITION.>>FROM CARBON FUELS TO OTHER TYPES OF ENERGY SO. IS THE SAVINGS COMING WITHIN THAT AGENCY YEARS IT COMING BECAUSE OF THINGS THAT WERE DONE OUTSIDE. IF YOU FOLLOW ONE OF MY QUESTION.>>GREENHOUSE MISSION NUMBER IS A COMBINATION OF THINGS UP ALL THE OTHER DATA IS FEEDING INTO THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THAT SO ON SOME OF THE AGENCIES WHERE THERE IN X CELL SERVICE TERRITORY FOR EXAMPLE; AN XCEL SERVICE TERRITORY HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS STUDY CARBONIZED THEIR GRIT THEIR GRID BY MOVING MORE WIND AND SOLAR.>>THEY HAVE BETTER BETTER SCORES THE. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO ALSO ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THE.>>GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH FUEL CONSUMPTION ENERGY CONSUMPTION IF THEY HAVE NO BACKUP GENERATORS; ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS ARE INCLUDED IN THOSE BEING HOUSE GAS EMISSIONS MEMBERS.>>OTHERS FINISH UP THIS MISSION AND SO WE KNOW THAT THERE’S NO MORE QUESTIONS BUT I GUESS THE POINT IS IT LOOKS LIKE YOU KNOW MAYBE THESE AGENCIES WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE REALIZED A LOT OF THESE SAVINGS JUST FROM WHAT EXCELLING ENERGY IS ALREADY DONE. AND SO YOU KNOW MAYBE THERE’S A THAT THAT TO CONSIDER AS WELL.>>REPRESENTATIVES I CAN REMEMBER THE LAST GREAT THEY HAVE A GOAL TO REDUCE THEIR ENERGY CONSUMPTION BY 30% THEY’RE NOT TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT GOAL OF REDUCING ENERGY CONSUMPTION BY 30% IN THE BUILDINGS BECAUSE OF THAT THE CARBON IS ELECTRIC GRID; THEY STILL NEED TO REDUCE THE ENERGY CONSUMED IN THEIR BUILDINGS BUT THAT AMOUNT REPRESENTED PEEL>>THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR I I REALIZE YOU SAID LAST SOMETHING OCCURRED TO ME IN THIS CONVERSATION. THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM RIGHT. HOWEVER IN OUR FIRST PART OF THE SCORE CARD IT SAYS THAT THERE ARE. $32 MILLION IN OF IN OF AVOIDED COSTS STARTING IN 2005. SO WHAT WAS GOING ON BEFORE THIS OFFICE STARTED.>>THIS 100% OF THE REST CHAIR REPRESENT. NEAR CALL IN 2017 O’CLOCK THERE WAS A BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR A BILL CALLED THE NEXT GENERATION ENERGY ACT; BUT ALSO THEN THERE WERE REQUIRED AS FOR AGENCIES TO KEEP REDUCE OUR ENERGY CONSUMPTION. SO WHEN WE DEVELOP THIS OFFICE AND OUR SCORECARD AGENCIES THAT WE WERE THAT WERE ABLE TO VERIFY WHERE THEY WERE BUT THE BASELINE OF 2005. AND WE THEY NEED ENERGY IMPROVEMENTS WE’VE HAD THEIR STARTING POINT TO 2005 WE DID NOT NECESSARILY HAVE GOOD THAT FOR SOME OF THE OTHER AGENCIES SO THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION WHO WORKS AND WHAT ITS ALL OF THE BUILDINGS HERE ON THE CAPITOL COMPLEX THEY HAD VERY VERY GOOD DATA ABOUT WHERE THEIR BASELINE ENERGY CONSUMPTION WAS FOR 2005 AND THEN KEPT TRACK OF EVERY SINGLE ENERGY IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY’VE DONE DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME. SO WE WANTED THAT REFLECTED IN THE NUMBERS. THANK YOU.>>JUST JUST MY COMMENT IS SO SOME OF THE. AGENCIES WERE ALREADY MANAGING THIS INTERNALLY. THE YES BUT I THINK WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE’RE ALL NOW ALL 24 AGENCIES ARE COUNTING THINGS APPLES TO APPLES AND REALLY MEASURING EXACTLY WHAT THEIR ENERGY CONSUMPTION WOULD BE IN EVERY SINGLE BUILDING OVER 5;000 SQUARE FEET THAT THEY HAVE ALL OF THEIR CAMPUSES. I RENEW MY MOTION THAT HOUSE FILED 2050.>>3 BE REFERRED BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE RAEFORD TO THE GENERAL REGISTER ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED NO. THE TEACHER NUMBERS; THANK YOU VERY HOUSE FALL 30 OH 6 REPRESENTATIVE. I SEE THE SECRETARY OF STATE’S HERE. PERCENT OF FREIBURG A VISIT PLEASED TO EXPLAIN YOUR BILL CHURCH TODAY.>>HOUSE ABOUT 3;006. I BELIEVE IS GOING TO THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE; NOT MIND THE BILL IS THE MOTION I HAVE IS TO BE REFERRED TO COME OR OPERATIONS; CORRECT I I WILL MOVE HOUSE ABOUT 3;006 TO GO I UNDERSTAND THE CHAIR; THERE’S KIND OF A PERSNICKETY AT TIMES AND WE’LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO THANK YOU. MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE THIS IS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD BILL THAT WOULD PUT US IN LINE WITH 46 OTHER IN THE UNITED RIGHT NOW AS MANY MEMBERS KNOW HERE WHEN WE. ARE RECEIVED MONEY THROUGH PAPA PROGRAM; THE HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DEAL WITH ELECTION SECURITY. IT NEEDS TO BE FOR THE STATE ACTUALLY EXCEPT THOSE FUNDS IT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE. I JUST MY EXPERIENCE LAST COUPLE YEARS HAS BEEN DONE THAT PROCESS HAS NOT ADDED TO ANYTHING TO THE BETTER GOOD IN MY MIND IT’S ACTUALLY BEN I’M MORE OF A ROADBLOCK. I DON’T I FEEL LIKE. ELECTION SECURITY HAS BECOME HELD HOSTAGE TO A THE LEGISLATURE’S BUDGET CONCERNS AND I JUST DON’T SEE THAT IT AS A VALUABLE ADDITION TO THE PROCESS OF THIS BILL DOES MAKES A VERY SIMPLE CHANGE TO STATE LAW TO SAYS WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALLOCATES HOBBLE FUNDING TOO AND SO THE AS LONG AS THE SECRETARY STATE FOLLOWS THE REQUIRE THE REQUIREMENTS AND CRITERIA SET OUT IN FEDERAL LAW. THEN THE MONEY OF IS ALLOCATED TO THEM AND AS I SAID THAT WOULD PUT US IN LINE WITH 46 OTHER STATES. SO THE SECRETARY STATE IS HERE A FEW A SPEAKER GET SOME OF THE HISTORY. HOW THIS CAME ABOUT.>>SECRETARY SIMON WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE THANK YOU TO HEAR THEM WAS ACTUALLY SHE DIDN’T REPRESENT JORDAN. WELCOME TO THE LEGISLATURE. BEFORE YOU AGAIN AND THANK YOU THIS ACTUALLY A SURPRISINGLY MAYBE A TO ALL OF YOU MEMBERS IS NOT AN INITIATIVE OF OUR OFFICE WE APPRECIATE IT BEING BROUGHT FORWARD WE DID NOT INITIATE THIS LEGISLATION. I DO SUPPORT IT. SO SECTION WAS PUT INTO STATUTE AND SIGNED INTO LAW IN MAY OF 2003. I THINK MISTER CHAIR YOU’RE ONLY THE ONLY MEMBER IN THIS ROOM WHO WAS THERE AT THAT TIME SO WAS PUT IN PLACE AT THAT FOR REASONS THAT ARE STILL UNCLEAR AT LEAST TO ME MAYBE YOU REMEMBER MISTER CHAIR; BUT THERE ARE UNCLEAR TO ME THAT’S FOR SURE. AND IN THAT SAME BILL THAT. INITIATED OR STARTED THE STATUTE IT INCLUDED AUTHORIZATION FOR 6 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR THEN SECRETARY OF STATE MARY KATE MEIER TO USE THAT MONEY SO IT IT NEVER BEEN USED TO HOLD UP THE MONEY IT HAD BEEN USED. I SOON AS SOME SORT OVER SECRETARY. FAST FORWARD TO 2018 WHICH IS THE NEXT TIME THIS BECAME AN ISSUE THERE WAS NO THERE WERE NO FEDERAL HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT HAVA FUNDS ISSUED BETWEEN 2003 2018 2018 THERE WERE FUNDS ISSUED TO MINNESOTA AND EVERY STATE IN THE COUNTRY AND THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016 YOU’VE HEARD ME AND MANY OTHERS TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE. NOT ONLY NATIONALLY BUT IN MINNESOTA WHERE WE WERE ONE OF THE 21 STATES THAT WAS TARGETED BY FOREIGN GOVERNMENT SO IN RESPONSE. CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT TRUMP SAW FIT TO GIVE THE STATE ANOTHER BATCH OF THIS HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT MONEY AND IN 46 OR 47 OF THE OTHER STATES. THAT’S AT THE MONEY WENT AS CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT INTENDED TO THE STATE’S CHIEF ELECTIONS OFFICIAL FOR THE PURPOSES SET FORTH VERY NARROW PURPOSE IS SET FOR THE FEDERAL STATUTE. BUT HERE IN MINNESOTA AND IN 2 OR 3 OTHER STATES THERE’S A SPEED BUMP AND 5.3 O IS THIS PEOPLE. IT NEVER HAS BEEN AND I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE. TO MAKE THIS VERY IMPORTANT SECURITY MONEY INTO A POLITICAL FOOTBALL. THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED AND IT WAS NOT DUE TO ANYTHING THAT ANYONE HERE IN THIS ROOM DID IN FACT IT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY IN THE HOUSE I THINK THAT THAT THE VOTE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR WITH THE 26 TO SOMETHING AND HOUSE FLOOR; SO IT’S NOT THE FAULT OF ANYONE IN THIS ROOM SO FAR AS I KNOW. BUT IN THE OTHER BODY IN THE OTHER CHAMBER; THERE WERE THOSE WHO ARE HOLDING UP THIS MONEY FOR WHAT REASON IT’S NOT CLEAR TO ME IF YOU ASK ME IN GOOD FAITH TO PUT INTO A VERBAL PARAGRAPH THE SUBSTANTIVE REASON WHY THIS MONEY WITHHELD UP; I CAN’T GIVE IT TO YOU I CAN’T LIVE THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF AND I STILL CAN’T GIVE YOU THAT SUBSTANTIVE REASON LEADING ME TO CONCLUDE THAT IT WAS YOU KNOW TRADE BAIT FOR AN END OF SESSION A DEAL THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE EVEN INCLUDED ELECTIONS IT COULD HAVE BEEN A PROVISION IN THE TAX BILL OR SOMETHING ELSE FOR ALL WE KNOW; BUT THAT’S NOT WHAT THIS PROVISION I I WOULD IMAGINE WAS MEANT FOR AND MORE TO THE POINT AND I’LL GET TO THE POINT THAT DELAY OF OVER 15 MONTHS ACTUALLY 16 MONTHS PUT US AT RISK. IT PUT US AT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN’T DO IN TIME FOR THE 2020 ELECTION THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE HAD WE GOTTEN THIS MONEY ON TIME. SO THIS IS A SPEED BUMP HAVING THE STATE LEGISLATURE SIGNED OFF. MONEY THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY THE PRESIDENT UNITED STATES AND BY THE CONGRESS AND I JUST ASK ALL OF YOU WHATEVER YOUR OPINIONS ON ELECTION SECURITY OF THE MONTH; THE FUNDS OR WHETHER WHAT WAS WISER ON ALL OF US ARE PASSING THROUGH ON PASSING THROUGH ON THE 22TH SECRETARY OF STATE. I’M NOT GOING TO BE THERE FOREVER. NONE OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER. I THINK NOT WHO’S THE DE OR WHO’S THE AH; WHATEVER ARE YOU REALLY WANT TO STATUTE ON THE BOOKS IN ANY AREA OF GOVERNOR WHERE THE STATE LEGISLATURE GETS TO SHORE STOP MONEY THAT IS COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR AN INTENDED PURPOSE THAT THE PRESIDENT UNITED STATES IN THE CONGRESS HAS A MAGIC THE MISCHIEF THAT COULD BE PLAYED BY ANY POLITICAL PARTY. IF THE ACTORS THAT 60 TO ANY OF US IN ANY OF OUR WELLS IF THEY DIDN’T LIKE SOMETHING THE PRESIDENT OR CONGRESS HAD DONE AND THEY COULD TO SHORTSTOP READ THE STATUTE IN STATE LAW SAYING IT AT MONEY COMES TO MINNESOTA. THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS TO SIGN OFF ON IT FAMILY PLANNING MONEY COMES TO MINNESOTA YOU’VE GOT TO SIGN OFF ON IT. IF CRIMINAL JUSTICE OR BORDER CONTROL MONEY THE LEGISLATURE HAS TO SIGN OFF ON IT WHEN I TALK NATIONALLY TO OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT THIS COLLEAGUES IN OTHER STATES OF BOTH PARTIES AND I SAY DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE’S A LAW ON THE BOOKS IN MINNESOTA; IT SAYS ONE FEDERAL ELECTION SECURITY MONEY COMES IN MINNESOTA. EVEN THOUGH THE STATE DIDN’T APPROPRIATED EVEN THOUGH THE PRESIDENT KNIGHTED STATES IN CONGRESS INTENDED IT FOR VERY NARROW PURPOSES THAT THERE’S A LAW ON THE BOOKS THAT SAYS THE STATE HAS TO SIGN OFF ON IT THEY CAN’T BELIEVE IT AND THEY’VE NEVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING SO I JUST ASK YOU TO THINK NOT IN THE SITUATIONAL MOMENT OF WHO OCCUPIES WHAT POSITION BUT WHY WOULD HE HAVE A LAW LIKE THIS AND AND WHY IS IT THAT WE WENT THROUGH AN UNNECESSARY DELAY; NO ONE’S FAULT IN THIS ROOM OF ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF. THE FEDERAL ELECTION SECURITY MONEY THAT HAS PUT US THIS YEAR IN THIS CONTEST AT A HIGHER RISK THAN THE OTHER WAS ONE EVENT THAT’S THE PITCH. IT’S A LAW THAT DOES NEED TO BE THERE THINKING ME THINK OF SOMEONE WHO’S GOING TO SUCCEED IN THIS OFFICE IN 10 YEARS OR 20 YEARS OR 30 YEARS. AND WHETHER WE REALLY WANT SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON THE BOOKS. THANK YOU FOR PERCENT OF ALL GREAT. THANK YOU. MISTER CHAIR; GOOD MORNING. SIR PETER’S TAPE.>>THE QUESTION IS IS MORE YOU BUT I NORTH IN THE FISCAL NOTE FOR A FEW HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU; BUT DON’T MAYBE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR A BIRD CAN SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL. THE NOTE THAT ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE FISCAL NOTE IT TALKS ABOUT AN EXPENDITURE. A MATCH FROM STATE FUNDS EQUIVALENT TO ROUGHLY ABOUT MILLION. ON PAGE 2 OF THAT IT SAYS THAT THE FEDERAL FUNDS ARE NOT GOING TO BE HOME UP BY IT; BUT THE MATCH IS STILL REQUISITE AS AN APPROPRIATION FROM THE STATE BEFORE. A 12/21/2021 SO. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE AND HAVE WE APPROPRIATE THAT MONEY REPRESENTATIVE FREIBURG OR WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM.>>YES; THE SECTOR SENTIMENT. MISTER CHAIR; THANK YOU AND REPRESENT ALL RIGHT. THE WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS DONE IT WHICH I THINK IS REASONABLE IS IN THAT FIRST BATCH OF MONEY THAT THEY MADE AVAILABLE IN 2018 TO ALL THE STATES IN THE RULE WAS THE SAME FOR ALL 18 PER FOR ALL 50 STATES. THEY SAID THAT IS GOING TO BE A 5% MATCH. SO THERE’S REALLY 2 THINGS GOING ON NUMBER ONE IS THE LEGISLATURE UNDER 5.3 O S TO AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE UNDERLYING MONEY. IF YOU’RE INTERESTED IN THAT PARTICULAR NUMBERS LAST TIME IT WAS 6.6 MILLION 5% OF THAT 330;000. SO THE DEAL WAS. MINNESOTA HAD AUTHORIZED THE USE OF THAT MONEY AND THEN A SEPARATE INQUIRY IS WHETHER HE PUT UP THE MATCH WHAT YOU DID AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH THIS TIME THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SINCE IT ONLY CAME 2 YEARS LATER; THEY SAID YOU KNOW WE’RE GOING TO ASK FOR MORE SKIN IN THE GAME FROM THE STATES WE’RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY. LAST TIME IT WAS 6.6 THIS TIME IT’S 7.4 MILLION; BUT THIS TIME INSTEAD OF A 5% MATCH WE’RE GOING TO ASK THE STATE’S TO PONY UP 20%. SO THAT’S WHERE THAT I THINK IT’S 1 MILLION 480 THOUSAND SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMES IN SO NO WE HAVEN’T DONE THAT YET WE’RE ASKING FOR THAT AS PART OF A SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET REQUEST WE’VE ASKED THE GOVERNOR TO PUT THAT IN HIS SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET REQUEST THAT HASN’T BEEN REVEALED YET. I HOPE YOU’LL DO THAT AND WE HAVE 2 YEARS TO GET THE MATCH. THE KEY THING IS YOU CAN SPEND THE UNDERLYING MONEY BEFORE YOU GET THE MATCH. SO IF THE LEGISLATURE DOESN’T REPEAL THIS LAW AND IF THIS YEAR THE LEGISLATURE AUTHORIZES US TO USE THE 7.4 MILLION WE CAN START SPENDING THAT. BEFORE WE GET THE MATCH BUT WE DO HAVE TO GET THE MATCH AS YOU SAID BY DECEMBER 2021.>>REPRESENT ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR OR A COUPLE OF PROCEDURAL THINGS FOR REPRESENT OF FREIBURG A. AS THIS MOVES FORWARD THEN AND THEN APPROPRIATION MIGHT BE TACKED ONTO IT WOULD BE OUR INTENTION TO BRING IT BACK TO STATE GOVERNMENT FINANCE THEM. AS WELL THIS IS FOR PROCEDURALLY FOR THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL JURISDICTION BEING FOR FINANCE WHICH WE NEED TO COME BACK HERE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS MORE OF A POLICY BILL THAT TO CHANGE THAT BUT IF THAT IF THIS MONEY WOULD COME FOR WE WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE IF YOU’RE IN THIS YEAR’S BUDGET SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET OR NEXT YEAR IN THE BUDGET THE MONEY TO MATCH IT. BUT RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE BILL TO DO PROBABLY PART OF THE APPROPRIATION BILL THAT WE WOULD CREATE A COMMITTEE TO THE TO MATCH THAT MONEY WOULD BE IN OUR ALL. A JUST QUICK QUESTION THEN OF THE CHAIR OF A GOVERNMENT. PATIENTS THIS IS EFFECTIVE OF ELECTIONS; BUT I DON’T IT GOING ARE WE REFER TO THIS POINT TO THE ELECTION SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE IN TENSION THAT FROM GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS IT WOULD GO TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS OR NO. REPRESENT FIBER IT IS MY INTENTION THAT WILL GO TO THE ELECTION SUBCOMMITTEE; WE DON’T.>>YET THAT COMMITTEE IS OPERATING DIFFERENTLY FROM WAYS AND MEANS AT THIS POINT SO I HAVE TO USE THE DREADED MEMO PROCESS TO REFER TO ELECTIONS. BUT AS MY INTENTION TO DO THAT FOR THIS BILL THANK YOU MR. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND MINE IS A COMMENT. YOU DON’T BECAUSE OF THANK YOU SECRETARY OF STATE FOR COMING HERE; BUT YOU KNOW YOU YOU TALK ABOUT THE LEGISLATURE HOLDING STUFF UP. AND IN SOME CASES THAT IS OUR JOB AND WE HAVE IN THIS INSTITUTION IN THIS COUNTRY. CHECKS AND BALANCES BECAUSE YOUR OFFICE WHETHER WHETHER IT’S YOU OR YOU KNOW SOMEBODY FART OF THE FUTURE COULD END UP SOME SOMEONE THERE WHO WAS UNSCRUPULOUS SOMEONE IS NOT BEING A LAW AND UH YOU KNOW WHEN YOU WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY THAT THE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN ESPECIALLY AWAY FROM THIS BODY YOU TAKE WITH TRANSPARENCY. AND SO THERE’S THERE’S A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER HERE BEFORE WE JUST GO AHEAD AND ONCE AGAIN ABDICATE OUR AUTHORITY AS AS THE AS THE PURSE OF MINNESOTA TO SAY ARE WE JUST WE JUST DON’T LIKE THE THINGS THE WAY THINGS WENT IN THE BIENNIUM WE DON’T LIKE WHAT THE SENATE DID SO THEY’RE FOR 4 WE’RE GOING TO CUT OURSELVES OUT OF IT THIS AND JUST LET SOMEBODY ELSE HANDLE IT WHY ARE WE HERE AND THIS IS WHAT WE CONTINUE TO DO HERE AND I THINK IT’S ANOTHER BILL TODAY THAT DOES SOMEONE OF THE CERTAIN THE SAME THING WHERE THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IS JUST CONTINUES TO SAY HUH. WE’RE NOT WE’RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT. SO IF WE’RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT WHY THE RUN FOR OFFICE WHERE WE WEAR HERE. NOW THIS IS THIS IS OUR JOB OUR JOB IS TO OVERSEE OTHER OTHER PARTS OF GOVERNMENT. I THINK THAT THE WAY THIS IS IS WORKING; YOU SAID YOURSELF THAT THIS MIGHT BE EVEN A BEEN A ANOMALY IN THE LAST ELECTION. BUT DON’T I GUESS THE THE TERM I’M THINKING MAYBE NOT APPLY. SPECIFICALLY BUT DON’T THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER DON’T JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS ONE INCIDENT THAT YOU DON’T LIKE DON’T DON’T GIVE AWAY YOUR AUTHORITY. EVERY LEAD IS MORE OF A COMMENT AND A QUESTION NOT REPRESENT A FULL.>>THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR ACTUALLY WE’VE HAD SOME FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH THIS TOGETHER. AS WE WORK TO THAT. COMP A CONFERENCE COMMITTEE.>>IS IT POSSIBLE IF THIS IS PASSED IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE FEDERAL MONEY COULD BE SPENT BY SECRETARY OF STATE EVEN IF APPROPRIATION WASN’T ALREADY APPROVED BY THE HOUSE FOR THEIR SHARE.>>SECRETARY SIMON I THINK YOU ANSWERED THAT BUT GOING AT MISTER CHAIR REPRESENT VOGEL THANK YOU KNOW WE CAN’T SPEND ANY OF THIS MONEY THAT LEGISLATIVE AUTHORIZATION. YOU KNOW I WOULD ONLY ADD UP SINCE THE GET THE MICROPHONE; YOU KNOW REPRESENT GREENER RESPECT YOUR COMMENT. BUT IMAGINE A POLITICAL SITUATION OVERSIGHT IS WHAT YOU WANT IMAGINE. IF YOU GET INTO POLITICS HERE; BUT LET ME JUST GAME THIS OUT HERE IMAGINE THE DFL CONTROLS BOTH CHAMBERS NEXT TIME AND THEY DECIDE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO ICE MONEY. WE OUGHT TO INSERT OURSELVES THAT LET’S PASS A 5.3 O BILL THAT HAS TO DO WITH ICE ATTEMPTS TO DO THE ONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH BORDER SECURITY. ONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE WILL INSERT ITSELF IN EVERY INSTANCE; WHERE THEY DISAPPROVE OF SOMETHING THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS DOING OR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SENDS MONEY TO MINNESOTA TO CONCERN ITSELF. I WOULD ARGUE REPRESENT GREEN THE OPPOSITE OF CHECKS AND BALANCES OUR CONSTITUTION SETS UP A FEDERAL SUPREMACY CLAUSE. I THINK THIS IS AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW AND IF IT WERE IN A MATTER OF THE TIME AND EXPENSE I THINK IT WOULD BE YOU NEVER WANT TO SAY SLAM DUNK BECAUSE THAT’S NOT TRUE. BUT I THINK THERE WOULD BE A VERY COMPELLING CASE FOR HAVING A FEDERAL COURT CHECK OUT THIS LAW STATES CAN’T JUST INSERT THEMSELVES WHEN THE CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT NOTED STATES APPROPRIATES MONEY FOR A VERY NARROW IN PARTICULAR PURPOSE. FOR A STATE TO INSERT ITSELF BY STATUTE OR OTHERWISE AND JUST SAY WE DON’T LIKE IT AND WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT I UNDERSTAND THE OVERSIGHT FUNCTION. UNFORTUNATELY; THIS STATUTE WASN’T USED FOR OVERSIGHT IF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SENATE WAS A SERIES OF OVERSIGHT HEARINGS LAST YEAR WHEN THEY ASKED US ABOUT THE PROPOSALS AND HAD COUNTER PROPOSALS THAT WOULD BE ONE THING. SO I’M SAYING THE OPPOSITE OF LEGISLATING FOR ONE ANECDOTE I’M SAYING THINK OF THE PLAYERS IN OTHER PARTISAN AND OTHER COMBINATIONS AND DO YOU REALLY WANT THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO SET THE PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET HERE THAT WHEN IT DOESN’T LIKE SOMETHING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS DOING IT WILL INSERTED SELF AS A SPEED BUMP AS A SHORTSTOP TO POSSIBLY BLOCK FEDERAL FUNDS FOR PURPOSE THAT IT DOESN’T LIKE WHEN THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS HAVE APPROPRIATE I JUST ASK EVERYONE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE PARTISAN BOXES; THINK OF THE VARIOUS COMBINATIONS OF REALLY WANT THIS PRESIDENT TO CONTINUE TO BE SAID. THAT’S WHAT I WOULD SAY RICK SIMPLE. THANK YOU. MISTER CHAIR AND I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION BUT AS I LOOK AT THE BILL ITSELF; IT WOULD SEEM TO ME.>>THAT. IF MONEY COMES FROM THE HELP AMERICA VOTE AT ITS AUTOMATICALLY APPROPRIATED TO A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND THAT IS THAN IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE’S OFFICE TO USE AS THEY SEE FIT BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. MISSED MY SHARE REPRESENT THAT WILL KNOW WE CAN’T TOUCH IT THAT WOULD BE LEGAL AND PERCENT ACCORDING TO 5.3 OH WE CAN’T TOUCH IT UNLESS THE LEGISLATURE AUTHORIZES AND THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED IN 2018 2019.>>THE MONEY WAS SITTING IN THE SPECIAL REVENUE COUNT ACTUALLY NOT IN OUR OFFICE AND IT WAS SITTING IN THAT ACCOUNT AND WE COULDN’T HAPPEN AND WE’RE LEFT THE LAST STATE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO GET ACCESS TO THAT BECAUSE IT DIDN’T HAPPEN UNTIL THE END OF THE 2019 SESSION. SO THE MONEY WAS APPROPRIATED IN MARCH OF 2018. EVERY STATE IN AMERICA GOT THEIR MONEY EVEN THE 2 OR 3 STATES HAVE A LOOK LIKE THIS THEY GOT THEIR MONEY WE GOT IT LAST AND NOW WE’RE PAYING THE PRICE FOR IT IN THE 2020 ELECTION CYCLE. REPRESENTATIVE WILL THANK YOU MISTER CHANCE TO. EXCUSE MY INEPTNESS IN UNDERSTANDING THIS. WHAT I’M READING THIS BILL TO SAY IS THAT IF THERE IS MONEY FROM THE HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT. IT IS APPROPRIATED TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE. MONEY WOULD THEN GO INTO A SPECIAL SPECIAL REVENUE FUND THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE’S OFFICE HAS. MISTER CHAIR TO ANOTHER REPRESENT VOGEL I BELIEVE. AS WAS STATED HERE THAT THE 2003 MONEY THAT WAS IT. THEY COULD SPEND IT UNTIL HE CAME UP TO MATCH THE MONEY LAST THE MONEY THAT WE’VE PASSED LAST YEAR. THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE YEAR AFTER WE WERE WE GOT IT WE COULD SPENT OF THE GOVERNMENT SO WE COULD SPEND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SO WE COULD SPEND IT AND COME UP THE MATCH LATER AND WHICH WOULD WHICH WE ACTUALLY AND THEN WE THAT WAS PART OF OUR BUDGET BILL LAST YEAR THIS MONEY HERE US AS WE CAN SPEND IT AND COME UP THE MATCH LATER. IF IF THIS BILL WERE TO PASS THE SECRETARY’S TAKE THIS START SPENDING IT; BUT WE HAVE TO APPROPRIATE THE MATCH. EITHER RIGHT AWAY THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR. AND THAT COULD VERY THE NEXT TIME THEY COME DOWN THEY COULD SAY. WE CAN SPEND TO COME UP THE MATCH AND YOU CAN ONLY SPEND IT ON THE THINGS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE BILL FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHAT THEY CAN SPEND IT ON. I THINK HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AND THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS THAT THIS MONEY IF IT COMES IN I’M WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE AS MUCH AS THE SITUATION NOW BECAUSE WE’RE OPENING THIS UP FOREVER. SO WHAT I’M VISUALIZING HERE IS THAT THERE COULD BE FUTURE. HERE’S WHERE THERE WILL BE MONEY IT WOULD COME AUTOMATICALLY APPROPRIATED TO THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND; THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO THEN SPEND THAT MONEY IN ANTICIPATION OF A MATCH. BUT NOW THEY HAVE COMMITTED THE LEGISLATURE TO THE MATCH BECAUSE THEY’VE SPENT IT AND WE’RE NOT GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW AND SO THE WAY THIS THING IS WRITTEN FROM MY IF I THINK ENDANGERS OUR ACTIVITIES AS A LEGISLATURE IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE COULD END UP APPROPRIATING WHAT WE WANT TO APPROPRIATE THE MONEY BUT WE WOULD EITHER WHAT WOULD WE DO SO. I UNDERSTAND THE DILEMMA THAT EXACT I SAY UP TO THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE AND ACTUALLY SAT THERE LOOKING AT EACH OTHER WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO SHOW UP I KNOW HOW WAS BUT AND I ACTUALLY VOTED FOR THE BILL ON THE FLOOR. I THINK BY TRYING TO CORRECT SOMETHING AND THEN PUTTING FUTURE LEGISLATURES ON THE HOOK FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT IT MIGHT BE. IT’S NOT AN APPROPRIATE THING FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO DO AND THAT WAS MY POINT MR. BRING THIS BILL FOR PERCENT OF FIBER I THINK IT’S PRETTY COMMON SENSE. CHECK THEIR STATE SIMON ARE YOU WEARING AND ANY OF THE 46 OTHER STATES THAT DON’T SHORTSTOP AS YOU PUT IT FOR THE LEGISLATURE. THAT ANY OF THEIR LEGISLATURES HAVE EXPRESSED REGRET ABOUT NOT HAVING ELECTIONS SECURITY MONEY BE DIRECTLY SPENT OR ANY OF THEIR SECRETARIES OF STATE. THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE STATE OVERSIGHT OVER FEDERAL FUNDING COMING THEIR STATE FOR ELECTION SECURITY. THE FIRST TIME MISTER CHAIR REPRESENT LONG NO I IN FACT I MET WITH BLANK STARES FROM SECTORS OF STATE OF BOTH PARTIES WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE THIS KIND OF LAW AS WITH ANYTHING THAT COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR PARTICULAR PURPOSE; YOU KNOW THAT JUST ISN’T THIS KIND OF MECHANISM IN PLACE. YOU MAY BE MORE SPECIFIC EXAMPLE WOULD BE IF I CAN PLAY AROUND WITH YOU KNOW A PARTISAN ROLE PLAYING IMAGINE THAT A REPUBLICAN CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT TRUMP DECIDES TO APPROPRIATE HOP A FUN AS FOR THE PURPOSE OF IMPLEMENTING A NATIONAL PHOTO I D FOR BOATING AND IMAGINE A DFL LEGISLATURE USING THIS AND SAYING NO WE’RE HOLDING UP. OK WHAT YOU DID. PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT HER NIKKI HALEY WHOEVER IT IS IN 5 YEARS OR 6 YEARS OR 10 YEARS. WE HAVE THE STATUTE IN PLACE AND WE JUST DON’T LIKE CARE WHAT YOU DID WE’RE NOT GOING TO OPERATE WE’RE NOT TRADING IT FOR ANYTHING WE’RE JUST NOT GOING TO DO IT. EVEN THOUGH THE PRESIDENT AND THE CONGRESS OUT THERE I THINK IT’S A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT I THINK IT’S UNCONSTITUTIONAL I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO THINK BEYOND CURRENT SITUATION; SO IT’S NOT ABOUT ONE ANECDOTE ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE; I DON’T KNOW WHY IT WAS THERE IN 2002 2003. BUT IT’S ALMOST SO HEARD UP TO HAVE A LOT LIKE THIS ANYWHERE THAT I KNOW OF WHERE A STATE LEGISLATURE CAN INTERFERE WITH EVEN STOP. FEDERAL APPROPRIATION A DULY AUTHORIZED FUNDS FROM THE PRESIDENT THAT IF IT’S IN CONGRESS. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND THE MONEY THAT WAS APPROPRIATE WAS FOR ELECTION SECURITY AND WE KNOW THAT MINNESOTA HAS BEEN TARGETED IN THE PAST; WE KNOW THAT THEY’RE GOING TO BE EFFORTS TO TARGET THE ELECTION SYSTEMS. THIS WE WERE THE LAST STATE IN THE COUNTRY TO SPEND THESE FUNDS LAST TIME AND THERE ARE ONLY 4 STATES AS YOU MENTIONED THAT HAVE ANY HOLDUP OF THOSE FUNDS. IF YOU WERE A HACKER LOOKING TO HACK THE ELECTION SYSTEM WOULD YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT; THE SLOWNESS OF THE STATE TO SPEND ITS ELECTION SECURITY FUNDING. SO FIRST SEC OR SIMON. WELL MISTER CHEN REPRESENT I DON’T WANT TO POKE A STICK IN THE EYE OF ANYONE WHO. YOU KNOW MIGHT BE THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES BUT. LET ME ANSWER THIS THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN’T DO THIS YEAR. AND THAT THE COUNTIES AND THE CITY’S WHO ACTUALLY COUNT THE VOTES AND TRAIN ELECTION JUDGES AND ONLY EQUIPMENT THAT THEY CAN’T DO THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF A 15 OR DELAY FROM THE LEGISLATURE. IN 2018 2019. SO WHETHER THAT FIGURES INTO AN ASSESSMENT FROM SOME FOREIGN AFTER READY AFTER ABOUT WHICH STATES THEY TARGET THAT’S FOR THEM TO DECIDE. CIVIL RICH; YOU SAID YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK ON THIS POINT ARE THE EXACT WORDS WERE QUOTE MISTER CHAIR AND I THINK THE POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAYBE JUST HELP ADDRESS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ASK UH HUH AS ROBERTS IF IF YOU COULD THE PROCESS FOR A FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WOULD COME INTO EXECUTIVE BRANCH AGENCIES IN TERMS OF THE APPROPRIATION OR THE UTILIZATION OF THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS.>>THIS>>MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS THERE IS A. A PORTION OF THE LEGISLATURE’S CHAPTER IN STATUTE AND 3.3 0; 0; 5 AT THIS. FOR FEDERAL MONEY EXPENDITURE REVIEW AND THEY’RE TOO SIMILAR PROCESSES FOR WHEN FEDERAL FUNDS. REQUESTS COME IN COMES IN DURING THE BUDGET SESSION AND THEN A SEPARATE BUT SIMILAR PROCESS FOR THE INTERIM AND FOR EXAMPLE IN REGULAR BUDGET PROCESS WHEN THE GOVERNOR SUBMITS THEIR BUDGET THEY’RE ALSO REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THE FEDERAL FUND REQUESTS AND YOU’LL SEE THOSE AT THE BACK OF EVERY AGENCY. BUT BUDGET PAGES. STATUTE SAYS 20 DAYS AFTER GOVERNOR’S BUDGET REQUESTS THAT INCLUDES A REQUEST TO SPEND FEDERAL MONEY IS SUBMITTED TO THE LEGISLATURE. THE STATE AGENCY MAKES AND MONEY INCLUDE IN THAT REQUEST AND LESS WITHIN IT WE NEED A PERIOD A MEMBER OF THE LEGISLATIVE ADVISORY COMMISSION REQUESTS FOR THEIR REVIEW. AND IF AN COMMISSION MEMBER REQUESTS FOR THE REVIEW; THE AGENCY MAY NOT EXPAND THE FEDERAL FUNDS UNTIL THE REQUEST HAS BEEN SATISFIED AND WITHDRAWN. EXPENDITURES IT PROVED IN LOVE FOR THE REGULAR SESSION OF THE LEGISLATURE HAS ADJOURNED FOR THE YEAR. SO THAT’S THE PROCESS WHEN WE’RE ACTUALLY IN SESSION IN THE REGULAR BUDGET SESSION; THERE’S A SIMILAR PROCESS DURING THE INTERIM FOR LEGISLATIVE. ADVISORY COMMISSION REVIEWING JUST TO THE LEGISLATIVE THAT ADVISORY COMMISSION IS GENERALLY AT THE. CHAIRS AT THAT THE COMMITTEES HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER CERTAIN ISSUE AND THEN A SPEAKER AT SARAH DURING AN INTERIM AGAIN THEY. COMMISSIONER AND HE WOULD SUBMIT REQUESTS WE USUALLY GET REQUESTS TO QUITE A GROUP IN AND THEN AGAIN THERE’S A PERIOD WHERE AND KELLY SOME MEMBER CAN REQUEST FOR THE REVIEW AND THAT ESSENTIALLY A STOPS THEN EXPENDITURE OF THE FUNDS UNTIL THAT REVIEW IS A SATISFIED. THE NECK AND WE’LL HAVE A PUBLICATION ON THIS THAT I COULD SEND THE MEMBERS IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON POINT BY INTERJECTING THIS IS 2 TO MAYBE NOT A NOT THAT BUT JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PURPOSES OF.>>THE PRESIDENT THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WAS.>>AN ANOMALY BECAUSE OF HAMA BUT I CAN RECALL A OTHER WELL WE SEE DENOTING CONCERNS ABOUT THE EXPENDITURES WITH REGARD TO TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WITH REGARD TO OTHER PROJECTS IN EXECUTIVE BRANCH AGENCY SO THE DEPICTION THAT THE PROCESS IS NOT STREAMLINED OR AS A WAS ESTABLISH ONLY BY VIRTUE OF THE AMA. I THINK IS A BIT OFF THE MARK AND I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION MR. THERE IS A LONG THAT ANOTHER QUESTION; I’M SORRY. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR. PERCENT FREE BIRD.>>SECRETARY OF STATE TIME AND I’M JUST CURIOUS. THE THE NEW I’VE NEVER BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE AND WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THERE IS SUCH A ROADBLOCK. IT WAS LIKE NIGHT AND DAY WHEN I HEARD THE TESTIFY OR IN A RECENT CONVERSATION WE HAD OVER THE CAPITOL WITH LEGISLATORS OF HOW MUCH STUFF WAS DONE IN THE INTERIM AFTER THE MONEY WAS ACTUALLY FREED UP. DO YOU HAVE A FIX ON WHAT RESOURCES AND WHAT EXPENSES THE STATE OF MINNESOTA OCCURRED TO GET THIS MONEY FREED THAT THAT THE IS THERE ANY I KNOW YOU WERE EXTREMELY BUSY. I KNOW YOUR STAFF IS BUSY YOU’RE TRYING TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD IN THE SECURITY REALM. BUT THE SAME TIME BUT I YOU KNOW THERE IS NO BUDGET FOR YOU TO TRY TO GET THIS MONEY HAD TO WORK HARD TO DO IT. I MEAN WHAT THAT THIS COST THE STATE OF MINNESOTA IN THAN DOLLARS. THAT’S WHAT.>>MISTER CHAIR AND REPRESENT HEWITT HARD TO PUT A PRICE TAG ON THAT. YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF MONEY. THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF PRICE TAGS THAT COULD PUT ON IT IN TERMS OF JUST BUT IN TERMS OF MONEY HARD TO SAY YOU KNOW WE DON’T DEAL FOR TIME OBVIOUSLY SO HARD TO SAY; BUT YOU KNOW A LOT OF TIME EVERTON ENERGY AND RESOURCES SPENT OVER 15. 16 MONTHS OR SO TO GET THAT MONEY FINALLY AND YOU KNOW THE ONE THING I WOULD JUST GENERALLY SAY IS IT REPRESENT GREENE IS HIS RIGHT ACTUALLY IN TERMS OF THE LEGISLATURE HAVING TO BE VIGOROUS OVER THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH DOES MATTER WHO’S IN POWER DOESN’T MATTER WHICH PARTY YOU’VE GOT TO BE A WATCHDOG OVER HOW MONEY IS SPENT I ABSOLUTELY AGREE AND SHOULDN’T ADVOCATE THAT WHICH IS WHY WE DO WELCOME AND WOULD IN THE FUTURE WELCOME ANY SORT OF INQUIRIES ARE ALL UP HERE BEFORE YOU HERE TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE’RE SPENDING ABOUT THE MONEY OR WHETHER YOU BELIEVE LEAVING ASIDE WHETHER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BELIEVES WE SPENT IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR WHICH IS I THINK YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT AS THE LEGISLATURE TO MAKE YOUR OWN SECONDARY JUDGMENT ABOUT WHETHER YOU BELIEVE EVEN IF THE FED SIGN OFF ON HOW WE SPEND IT TO PUSH BACK OR AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH HOW WE’VE SPENT THE MONEY OR WHETHER WE’RE DOING IT WITHIN THE 5 OR 6 CATEGORIES THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SO WE ARE AS EVERY STATE WILL BE AUDITED THE ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION WHICH IS THE FEDERAL AGENCY IN CHARGE OF WELL DOING THAT AUDITING OF THE USE OF THIS MONEY. BUT IF YOU IN THE LEGISLATURE HAD QUESTIONS ARE AS I SAID ONE OF ME OR ANYONE FROM OUR OFFICE TO APPEAR WE’RE HAPPY TO DO THAT YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO KNOW. YOU KNOW SPENDING THE MONEY. WHAT I TAKE ISSUE WITH IS THIS THIS ABSOLUTE SPEED BUMP AND AT LEAST THE POTENTIAL TO SAY NO WE’RE NOT SPENDING MONEY AT ALL OF MINNESOTA MEAN THAT IS THE THAT IS THE RIGHT UNDER THE STATUTE TO SAY NO WE DON’T LIKE THE FEDERAL PURPOSE. WE DON’T LIKE THAT THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS APPROPRIATED MONEY FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE AND WE THE STATE LEGISLATURE WHO DID NOT APPROPRIATE THE MONEY. WE’RE JUST GOING TO YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO STOP WITH THIS LAW. SO I JUST WANT TO DECOUPLE THAT FROM THE OVERSIGHT FUNCTION WHICH IS IMPORTANT AND YOU SHOULD KEEP IT UP NO MATTER WHO’S GOVERNOR WHICH PARTY THAT SEPARATE THEM. MISTER CHAIR AND THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND.>>SECRETARY OF STATE I AGAIN I’M ALL ABOUT OVERSIGHT TRUST ME AS MY INTERIM I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THE LEGISLATOR HAS THAT FUNCTION AND MUST DO THAT. LAST THING I JUST WANT TO SAY IS REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID. THERE’S GOING TO BE THINGS WE CAN’T DO BECAUSE WE DIDN’T GET THIS MONEY AND TIME. BECAUSE WE HAVE A BIG ELECTION COMING UP. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR. REPRESENTIVE DREAM. SENATOR THOMAS.>>THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS GOOD MORNING. SECRETARY SIMON. COULD YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY WHAT WAS THE OF APPROPRIATION AMOUNT.>>REPRESENTATIVE ON OUR SYSTEM SECRETARY SIMON OLD HABITS DIE. SO YOUNG. A MAN WAS THE FOR IS THE FIRST MEETING THIS YEAR SO WHAT YOU GET BACK IN THE YEAR IF THE PROTESTS; THE ORIGINAL OUTLAY TO MINNESOTA IT WAS ALL JUST POPULATION. SO OUR SHARE WAS 6.6 MILLION.>>6.6 MILLION OK AND WITHIN EUROPE.>>IS THERE ANY.>>CATEGORICAL BUCKETS OF CASH THAT ARE RESTRICTED IN HOW YOU USE MONEY IN YOUR OFFICE. MISTER REPRESENT HER TEST. YES. AND MISTER CHAIR; A 100 TIMES THANK YOU. IF THE MONEY THE HOW THE MONEY WAS NEVER SPENT WHAT HAPPENS TO IT. SENATOR SIMON YES; MISTER CHAIR REPRESENT HER TEST THEIR THE FEDERAL IT REALLY WATCHES CLOSELY.>>SO IT SOME MOST OR ALL OF IT COULD BE TOTALLY FORFEIT THEY RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CLAW BACK IF IT’S NOT SPENT WITHIN THE WINDOW; IT SUPPOSED TO BE SPENT IT’S TYPICALLY A 5 YEAR WINDOW FOR THE 5 OR 6 PURPOSES OF FEDERAL STATUTE. THEY WILL FIGHT BACK THEY MADE THAT VERY CLEAR REPRESENTATIVES.>>THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND. SECRETARY DO YOU THINK IT’S NECESSARY FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO FUND OUR ELECTIONS OR THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY AS A STATE TO ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF OUR OWN ELECTION SYSTEM IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.>>SECRETARY SIMON MISTER CHAIR REPRESENTED PROTESTS. I THINK THE FEDERAL PARTNERSHIP GOING FORWARD IS ESSENTIAL IN PART BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTION SECURITY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND TALKING ABOUT THE PHYSICAL STUFF. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ITSELF INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES COME INTO OUR OFFICE REGULARLY THEY’LL BE DOING SO AGAIN IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. THEY DO ALL SORTS OF STRESS TESTS AND A VALUATION OF OUR SYSTEM LOOKING FOR SOFT SPOTS BASICALLY TRYING TO HACK US TO BE WHAT AND THEN THEY COME UP WITH A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HUGE PRICE TAGS AND SO FEDERAL FINANCIAL PARTNERSHIP; I THINK AT LEAST IN THE MEDIUM TERM IS ESSENTIAL. SECOND OUR REPRESENTATIVE CURTIS; THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND.>>SECRETARY SIMON I’M AWARE THAT HUM WITH RESPECT 2 WE HAVE A DICHOTOMY OF ELECTIONS. WE HAVE STATE ELECTIONS LOCAL ELECTIONS. WE HAVE FEDERAL ELECTIONS AND CERTAINLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS CONTROL OVER FEDERAL ELECTIONS. AND OUR OWN STATE CONSTITUTION IS; I’M SORRY THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION GIVES GREATER LATITUDE IN TERMS OF UNIFORMITY VOTING ACROSS THE NATION FOR EXAMPLE WITH REGARD TO FELON VOTING. SOME STATES ONCE YOU’RE A FELON YOU NEVER GET TO VOTE. INS OTHER STATES YOU EARNED THAT RIGHT BACK. IN SOME STATES IF YOU’RE A FELON AND IS STILL INCARCERATED YOU GET TO VOTE IN PRISON. SO THERE’S A GREAT VARIANCE OF STANDARD IN TERMS OF WHAT IS PERMISSIVE WELL WITH REGARD TO FEDERAL ELECTIONS AND UNIFORMITY ACROSS THE LAND VERSUS THAT WHICH UH THE INDIVIDUAL STATES SET UP THEIR OWN RULES AND SO THERE’S THERE’S POTENTIALLY A COLLISION COMING FORWARD AND EDITORIAL IS IS IS ONE. THING I WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR AND I THINK IT’S SOMETHING WE’LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH BECAUSE I DON’T THINK YOU WANT TO BE RUNNING 2 SETS OF ELECTIONS A SET OF FEDERAL ELECTIONS THAT PLAY BY ONE SET THE RULES AND ANOTHER ONE THAT PLAYS BY STATE SET OF RULES. MOST INTRIGUING TO ME ABOUT THE MONEY AND THE ELECTION SECURITY ISSUE IS SOMETHING THAT. WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT LAST SESSION YOU AND I. AND THE FACT THAT YOU WERE BOASTFUL THAT YOUR AGENCY IS A NET CONTRIBUTOR TO THE GENERAL FUND AND I THINK THE NUMBER WAS TO THE EXCESS OF 23 SOME MILLION DOLLARS OR MAYBE SO IT REALLY YOU MAYBE YOU HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON HOW YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY. THE FACT THAT IT’S NOT USED IN GENERATED BY YOUR AGENCY OR BY YOUR TO YOUR DEPARTMENT WOULD SUGGEST TO ME THAT MILLION WAS MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THE SECURITY ISSUES THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT AND THAT MAY BE A LOT OF THIS IS SMOKE AND MIRRORS IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE THE EXTRA MONEY AND HE’S IS THE FUNDING BUT YOUR OFFICE IS GENERATING MORE MONEY THAN IT NEEDS TO OPERATE AND WHAT’S THE BIG DEAL ABOUT THE MILLION.>>REP SECTOR MEMBERS THANK YOU REPRESENT HER CHEST; YOU’RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT YOU’RE RIGHT TO RAISE THAT POINT. I WOULD JUST ADD THAT IT’S TRUE OUR OFFICE GENERATES WHATEVER I THINK IT’S SOMETHING LIKE THAT 21 MILLION MORE.>>HER BIENNIUM.>>THEN WE COST TO RUN; BUT WE DON’T KEEP ANY OF THAT MONEY THAT ALL GOES TO THE GENERAL RESIDENT NASH HAD A BILL LAST SESSION WILL HAPPEN AGAIN THIS YEAR WHICH WOULD ALLOW OUR AGENCY AND PERHAPS OTHERS TO KEEP I THINK IT’S 2%. BILL OF THOSE FUNDS FOR EXACTLY THAT PURPOSE SO REPRESENTATIVE NASH IS NOT IN THIS ROOM. AND I AGREE WITH HIM THAT THAT MIGHT BE ONE WAY ON THE STATE LEVEL TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE PROBLEMS TO SET ASIDE THAT I DON’T KNOW IF THE NUMBERS TO PERCENT OR SOME OTHER PERCENTAGE; BUT ALLOW US TO KEEP WE’LL KEEP IT SO WE GENERATE THAT INCOME BUT WE DON’T KEEP THAT WE DON’T HAVE ANY ACCESS TO IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. SO THAT’S AN INTRIGUING IDEA THAT REPRESENT NASH’S SAYS IDEA. I LIKE THE IDEA AND THAT’S SOMETHING WE’VE BEEN TALKING TO HIM AND OTHERS ABOUT AS WELL TO YOUR POINT.>>NEVERS IF WE CAN GET THIS MOVES ALONG OUR OUR NEXT TESTIFY OR WE HAVE THAT’S USE HERE ON VACATION TIME. AND WE LIKE TO DO WITH SO WE’D LIKE TO GET THROUGH THAT BILL ALSO GET THAT SO THAT PERSON GO BACK TO WORK AND THAT USE THEIR VACATION TIME TO BE HERE SO REPRESENTED HURT US. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS BILL. SEEING NO ONE HOUR INTO MY MOTION THAT HOUSE PILE 30 GOALS. 3; 0; 0; BE REALLY HE REFERRED TO THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE HOST. THE AYES HAVE IT FOR MEMBERS THE BILLS REFERRED THANK YOU SECRETARY SIMON; THANK YOU REPRESENT FREIBURG THE NEXT BILL WE HAVE IS A HOUSE FILE 1863 REPRESENTATIVE LILY. 1863 IS ANOTHER ONE OF OUR BILLS THAT WE HEARD LAST YEAR AT QUITE EXTENSIVE HEARING ON IT. WHAT WAS LAID OVER FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION ON WE DID HEAR THE BILL AND MAYBE GET THIS MOVE FOR FAR TOO LONG ANYWAY. A MOVE THAT HAS FILE 1863. AS AMENDED BE REFERRED BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE. WE HAVE A MINUTE OK A MOVE THAT WOULD BE REFERRED TO THAT COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS AND RECOGNITION TO BE REFERRED TO THE GENERAL REGISTER I BELIEVE THE AMENDMENT. 2 AMENDMENTS; OK. IN THE D 2 AMENDMENT IS REPRESENTATIVE LITTLE YOU WANT IT’S A MOVE THE D 2 AMENDMENT YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT THIS DOES AND HOW IT CHANGES THE BILL. GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND WELCOME BACK THANKS TO OUR NEW MEMBER. THANKS TO SEE A I WAS CURIOUS WHAT COMMITTEES YOU WOULD GET IN. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE’S A LOT GOING ON THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS SAID THE D E TO AMENDMENT.>>IT’S A BOTH THE AMENDMENTS ARE PRETTY SIMPLE JUST CLARIFIES THAT THE EMPLOYEES IT’S THIS WORK TO THE TO GO INTO EFFECT THAT THEY’D ACTUALLY HAVE TO RETURN TO WORK. SO THAT IF THEY CHOSE YOU ON THEIR OWN TO MOVE ON TO GO TO PLAME AND ELSEWHERE THIS WOULD NOT AFFECT SO THEY WOULD NOT BE PAGE. SO THIS REQUIRE SIMPLY THAT THE EMPLOYEES WOULD COME BACK TO THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA.>>AND REP SILLY THIS IS THE WHAT THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THE OMNIBUS BILL FROM LAST YEAR THAT GETS A CUT THROUGH THE THROUGH THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE. AND MEMBERS IT’S A IT DIDN’T MAKE IT THROUGH BUT IT WAS. BE ON THIS COMMITTEE I BELIEVE IN OR SOMETHING AND CONVERTS MANY YEARS SOMETHING.>>AND SO IT JUST KIND OF CATCHES UP TO TO AND IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE.>>SO MEMBERS I’M READY FOR THE QUESTIONS OF ALERT AND MOOT.>>THE DO IT THE 2 AMENDMENT ALL IN FAVOR OF THE DEED TO AMENDMENT TO PUT THE BILL IN THE SHAPE THAT THE AUTHOR WALKS PLEASE SAY AYE. IN THE 8 TO MISTER REPRESENT A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU. MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS TO AMENDMENT.>>TO TO IT’S A TECHNICAL CORRECTION IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT FROM THE ORIGINAL DRAFTING IN AS IT MOVED IT WE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT DIRECTOR. LEGISLATIVE CORDY HEARTENING COMMISSION SO IT’S JUST SIMPLY ADDS THAT PERSON AND THAT GROUP TO THE TO THE BELT SOME MEMBERS DO WE UNDERSTAND THE COMMIT THE.>>SO TO AMENDMENT TO GET RID OF MY MOTION FOR THE 8 TO AMENDMENT TO A PUT IT IN THE. AT THIS PUT THIS IN THE FORM THAT THE AUTHOR WANTS THE BILL ALL IN FAVOR OF THE 2 AMENDMENT PLEASE SAY AYE. WHAT THE AMENDMENT APPROVED. DESCRIBE YOUR BILL IN AND THEY SEE WE HAVE TO TESTIFY OR YEAR AND IF YOU WANT TO SCRAP THE BILL BRIEF YOU AND LET YOU TESTIFY OR SPEAK. GOOD MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS>>SO THE BILL HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE SO I DON’T KNOW HOW SO WE’LL JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW.>>IT’S A ENSURES THAT ARE STATE EMPLOYEES ARE THE IN THE EMPLOY OF A MINNESOTA. IF WE’RE NOT TO FINISH ARE A WORK IN THE YEARS OF THE BIENNIUM.>>THAT THEY THAT THEY WOULD BE PAID. WE HAVE A HISTORY OF MINNESOTA WERE OFTEN EMPLOYEES OF NOT ARE NOT OFTEN BUT HAVE NOT BEEN PAID. AND 2005. I THINK IT PAID 50%. AND OF BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS WE KNOW IN OUR THEY HAD THE RECENT SHUTDOWN. EMPLOYEES WERE NOT COMPENSATED SO THIS THE WORKERS SAID.>>IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH IN DISARRAY KNOWS IT’S A FANCY NAME FOR.>>BASICALLY ALL ALL IN A MOST OF THE AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE. A MINNESOTA; LEGISLATIVE BRANCH. SO THAT’S EVERYBODY IN THIS BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET; THE FANCY A SENATE BUILDING BUT YOU KNOW ARE VITAL A TEAM AND OF COURSE THE JUDICIAL BRANCH ALSO WOULD BE INCLUDED SO. YOU KNOW WHAT 2011 WE HAD TO ONE OF THE LONGEST SHUT DOWNS IN. YOU KNOW THE COUNTRY MAY BE THE LONGEST SHUTDOWN IN THE COUNTRY AND SO. THIS WHAT OFTEN HAPPENS IS WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ON OUR TEAM. YOU KNOW WILL DECIDE WHO IS ESSENTIAL AND THEN THEY’LL BE SOME THAT ARE NOT ESSENTIAL. BUT NONETHELESS A LOT OF PEOPLE GO THROUGH A LOT OF STRESS AND WE HIRE PEOPLE AND GOOD.>>FAITH AND WE HOPE THAT THE.>>DO GOOD WORK WE EXPECT AND DO GOOD WORK AND PART OF THAT IS TO TREAT THEM.>>LIKE WE ALL LIKE TO BE TREATED AND TO BE SURE THAT THEY’RE COMPENSATED SOME PEOPLE JUST DON’T HAVE THE WHERE WITH ALL OF COURSE TO A MARKET CASSIDY TO HANDLE LIFE WITHOUT PAY FOR A WHILE AS MANY AIR. IN THIS WORLD; I’M I’M SURE REPRESENT BONES BANKING INDUSTRY IS SEEN PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE MARGINS OF LIFE AND UH YOU KNOW EVERY CHECK MATTERS. SO WHILE WE THIS IS NOT A CONTINUING RESOLUTION TO KEEP GOVERNMENT RUNNING. INSURERS THAT ARE TEAM ARE WORKERS THAT THERE ARE OUT THERE PAID AND SO THIS DOESN’T STOP US FROM YOU KNOW. NEGOTIATING AND STILL FIGHTING THE BUT JUST SO THAT’S ESSENTIALLY IT I TO FOLKS BUT I THINK THE REALLY IMPORTANT WANT TO HEAR FROM IS THIS CHRISTIAN SENATE SHE WORKS OVER HERE AND MEN DOT AND SHE HAS A I THINK A PRETTY POWERFUL STORY TO TELL FROM A FROM THE LAST SHUTDOWN THAT AS A STATE AND I’M GLAD THAT YOU’RE ABLE TO COME AND SHE HAD TO TAKE THAT PERSONAL VACATIONS. I’M GLAD THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THAT. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE TAPE.>>THANK YOU I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. MY NAME IS KELLY CHRISTIAN CENT AND NEXT MONTH MARK MY 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY THAT I’VE BEEN A MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION EMPLOYEE ADDITIONALLY MY TOTAL YOU THERE’S A STATE SERVICE WILL BE 13 COME THEY COME HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF HOUSE BY 1863. IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHY PRESENTLY SUPPORT THIS BILL IT’S PART YOU TAKE A WALK IN TIME WITH ME AND UNDERSTAND SOME IMPORTANT MINNESOTA EVENTS THAT ARE NOW PART OF OUR STATE’S COLLECTIVE HISTORY. I WAS A MAN THAT EMPLOY IN THE SUMMER OF 2011. THE PARTICULAR SUMMER WAS MEMORABLE TO ME AND UNFORTUNATELY THE MEMORIES ARE NOT ONES THAT EVERY WANT TO RIP HEAT; I REFERRED TO THE SUMMER OF 20 11 IS THE YEAR I AND THOUSANDS OF OTHER STATE EMPLOYEES WERE USED AS PAWNS IN A POLITICAL TACTIC GAME. I WAS LAID OFF FOR 3 WERE 3 WEEKS I WAS IN ARE NOT WORKING NOT COLLECTING MY REGULAR PAYCHECK FOR 20 DAYS. WHAT OUR STATE LEGISLATIVE LEADERS AND GOVERNOR COULD NOT ONLY NOT BALANCE THE BUDGET. MONEY FOR MY SALARY WAS NOT APPROPRIATE IT AND IT WAS USED DISTRICT AS A STRATEGIC TOOL TO TRY TO MAKE A POINT. 20 DAYS OF NOT WORKING IF YOU THINK THIS WAS A FUN VACATION; THIS IS NOT THE CASE. THE UNEASE IF NOT KNOWING WHEN I WOULD GO BACK TO WORK. I GET PAID AGAIN TO PAY MY BILLS; COSMIC ITS CONSIDERABLE STRESS AND ANXIETY IS THERE WAS LITERALLY NOTHING I COULD DO. TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME THAT OCCURRED IN JULY OF 2011. I AM BEING THAT IF THE SHUTDOWN LASTED THAN 30 DATE WITH BANKERS IN 30 DAYS WE WOULD ELECT THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE. I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MOMENT. I WAS ON THE BRINK OF LOSING MY HEALTH INSURANCE FOR MY FAMILY WAIT FOR NO ACTION OR INACTION OF MY OWN. I WANT TO REMIND YOU ENSURE THE STATE’S INSURANCE EXCHANGE DID NOT YET EXIST IN 2011. SO I HAD NO OPTION IF I WERE TO LOSE MY HEALTH INSURANCE. I REMEMBER CRYING AND CORKER’S ARMS A FEW DAYS BEFORE SHUTDOWN ASKING WHY WE HAD TO EXPERIENCE THIS AND SHE HUGGED ME AND TOLD ME SHE DIDN’T KNOW. I REMEMBER WATCHING THE NEWS EVERY DAY DURING THE SHUTDOWN AND WONDERING WAS THIS THE DAY OUR ELECTED LEADERS ARE FINALLY COME TO AN AGREEMENT. AS ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO’S GONE THROUGH THE EXPERIENCE I CAN TELL YOU IS ONE OF THE MOST FRUSTRATING AND MADDENING EXPERIENCES TO BE USED AS A BARGAINING CHIP A BIT OF A GAME OF WHO CAN BLINK FIRST TO USE STATE EMPLOYEE SALARIES AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN A MEANS TO STILL PAY EMPLOYEES FOR AN HONEST A WORK SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED CONTINUE ANYMORE IN STATE GOVERNMENT TO USE COMPLETELY INNOCENT LIVES AND IS SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS MY PAYCHECK AS POLITICAL STRATEGY IS IN MILE UNCALLED FOR AND SHOULD BE UNTHINKABLE. THIS COMPLETELY ARCHAIC PRACTICE SHOULD NEVER BE USED AGAIN IN STATE GOVERNMENT. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE 20 DAYS IN JULY OF 2011 THIS WAS THE LONGEST GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN OUR STATE HAD SEEN. IS THIS THE TYPE OF HISTORY. WE WANT FOR OUR STATE I DON’T THE PRACTICE OF WITHHOLDING PAYCHECKS IN THAT MANNER IS COMPLETELY UNHEARD OF IN THE PRIVATE SAID THERE AND IT’S TIME WE PUT AN END TO THIS. THE SUMMER OF 2011 MEMORIES ARE NEVER FAR FROM MY MIND IN MAY OF ODD YEARS. THE LEGISLATURE USUALLY COMES DOWN TO THE RYAN COMPLETED THERE TASKS AND I’M LEFT WONDERING IS THIS GOING TO BE A REPEAT OF 2011. LET’S FAST FORWARD TO DECEMBER OF 2018. LOOK AT A NATIONAL EVENTS FROM OUR COUNTRY OUR COUNTRY BUT ON THE LONGEST FEDERAL SHUTDOWN IN THAT HISTORY. I COULDN’T HELP BUT SYMPATHIZE WITH THOSE FEDERAL WORKERS. I ALSO COMPARED THE EVENTS OF 20 18 WITH THE EVENTS OF 2011 THERE WERE MANY CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM THAT WERE QUOTED AS SAYING THEY WERE NOT IN FAVOR OF SHUTTING DOWN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS A POLITICAL TACTIC AND THAT USING PEOPLE’S LIVELIHOODS AND SALARIES TO PROVE A POINT IS A MILE AND AFFECTED THAT ASKED I WAS SHOCKED WHEN A BILL WAS PASSED THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW FEDERAL EMPLOYEES TO RECEIVE BACK PAY WHEN THAT SHUTDOWN WAS OVER. I WAS SHOCKED BECAUSE THAT WAS COMPLETELY UNHEARD OF FOR US IN 2011 A STATE EMPLOYEES. I WAS SUPPORTIVE; BUT I WONDERED WHY IT IS A STATE IN PLAY SHOULD NOT RECEIVE THAT HATE SAME TYPE OF TREE THAT WAS MY WORTH LAST THEM OUT OF A FEDERAL EMPLOYEE. IT FEELS PRETTY DEMORALIZING INTEGRATING WHEN I SEE SUPPORT OF FEDERAL EMPLOYEES BUT MY OWN STATE DOESN’T HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR IN PLACE I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THIS. IF EVERY LEGISLATOR IN GOVERNOR COMPLETES THEIR ASSIGNED JOB DURING ODD YEARS. BALANCING THE BUDGET WHICH INCLUDES MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR OUR SALARIES. THIS BILL WILL COST THE STATE NOTHING 0. AND IT IS MY HOPE THAT THIS BILL WILL NEVER HAVE TO BE USING USE AND IT SITS ON THE SHELF GETTING BEST BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR AND LEGISLATOR CAN DO THEIR JOBS BY THE MAY DEADLINE THAT IS DEFINED BY OUR STATE CONSTITUTION. I’M COMING TO YOU TODAY ASKING FOR PROTECTION AND THAT MY PAYCHECK IS NOT GOING TO BE STOLEN FROM ME LIKE IT WAS IN 2011. OUR STATE CONSTITUTION SAYS THIS ARTICLE ONE BILL OF RIGHTS. REID’S OBJECT OF IS INSTITUTED FOR THE SECURITY BENEFIT AND PROTECTION OF THE PEOPLE. PLEASE PASS HOUSE FILE; 1863 THIS RAW FOR ME AND THOUSANDS OF OTHER STATE EMPLOYEES; THE PROTECTION AND SECURITY WE DESERVE FROM HAVING OUR PAYCHECKS BEING TAKEN FROM US BY NO FAULT OR INACTION OF OUR OWN. AND PREVENT THE EXTRAORDINARY EVENTS THAT HAPPENED IN 2011 FROM EVER HAPPENING AGAIN. PLEASE MAKE THE EVENTS OF JULY OF 2011. A PART OF OUR STATE’S HISTORY ONCE AND FOR ALL THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU. MISTER CHAIR AND THANK YOU FOR THAT IT’S MOVING AND REPRESENTATIVE LILY. IT REMINDS ME OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES. I AS A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR. DECADES PROVIDED WORK MATERIAL LABOR. TO ABOUT 23 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS OF A NATIONAL CHAIN HERE IN THE METROPOLITAN AREA; THEIR FISCAL YEAR AND WAS JUNE 30TH LIKE THE STATE OF MINNESOTA IS. AND THEY WERE ON A BIG CAMPAIGN TO SPEND MONEY. BEFORE THE YEAR TO AFFECT THE PNL FOR THE TAX LIABILITY. IT TOOK MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS TO GET PAYMENT FOR ALL THAT WORK. THE SAME TYPE OF STRESSES THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. BEING ABLE TO MAKE PAYROLL NOT BE ABLE TO PAY PAYROLL JUST A LOT OF STRESS. AND SO I FEEL FOR THAT; BUT MY QUESTION IS DIRECTED TOWARDS ALL OF THE VENDORS TO THE STATE OF MINNESOTA WHEN WE HAVE THESE CIRCUMSTANCES MAY BE HOUSE RESEARCH KNOWS. WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE PEOPLE. WHEN THERE’S A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN IF THEY’RE IN THE MIDDLE OF BUILDING A BRIDGE DOES IT STOP. WAR WAS THE MONEY APPROPRIATED FOR THAT. CONTRACT IS THAT THERE AND IS DOES THAT GET DISTRIBUTED; BUT I THINK THIS ISSUE OF SHUTDOWN MAY BE EXTENDS FAR BEYOND JUST STATE EMPLOYEE. HE’S SO DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.>>MISTER CHAIR AND THAT REPRESENT HER TESTS SO REALLY A GREAT QUESTION AND A AND I DO NOT KNOW THE>>I DO KNOW; YOU KNOW MANY OF KIND OF LET THROUGH THE SHUTDOWN A MEME WHERE IT WAS HUGELY COSTLY TO MINNESOTA AND OTHER FACTORS AND IN YOUR KIND OF PINPOINTING IT IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO START AND STOP PROJECTS. I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF MEN THAT PROJECTS THAT WERE HAD TO YOU KNOW BASICALLY CORE OF OUR YOU KNOW CALL THEM UP WHEN CREWS LEFT AND CAME BACK; BUT I APPRECIATE SOME HELP FROM STAFF IF THEY HAVE ACTUAL REAL ANSWERS OTHER THAN A TOTAL.>>TO MISTER GEHRING UP WITH THE SHERIFFS OF HER TOSS AND REMEMBER SOME I DON’T HAVE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF CONTRACTS THAT WERE STOPPED IN 2011; BUT IT IS TRUE THAT SINCE THE FUNDING STOP TO BE SOMETHING AVAILABLE TO THE COP SO AGENCIES THEN CONTRACTORS COULD BE PAID DURING THE SHUTDOWN SO AS TO WHAT WAS SAID THAT. PROJECTS THAT WERE UNDERWAY NEEDED TO BE STOPPED DURING THE SHUTDOWN PENDING FURTHER APPROPRIATIONS TO PAY FOR THEM TO CONTINUE.>>WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THANKS FOR YOUR EFFORT ON I THINK THE YOU KNOW THE DICHOTOMY BETWEEN PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYMENT IN PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYMENT; CERTAINLY THOSE PEOPLE THAT DO BUSINESS WITH THE STATE. YOU KNOW THERE’S ALWAYS THAT INHERENT RISKS DO WE SOMETIMES PAY MORE FOR CONTRACTS BECAUSE OF IT. THE YOU KNOW BECAUSE OF WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN. WE’VE GOT ALL SORTS OF PROVISIONS IN STATE GOVERNMENT THAT DRIVE UP THE COST OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR; BUT YOU KNOW VOTERS OUT THERE WORKING IN BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE AND A. THE ONLY CONCERN I WOULD HAVE ON THIS ISSUE IS THE OPTICS THAT THE GOVERNMENT TAKES CARE OF ITSELF. AND NOT THE REST OF THE ECONOMY. SO. WE NEED TO AVOID SHUTDOWNS WE NEED TO. HAVE A DYNAMIC THAT DOESN’T PUT US IN A PLACE THAT WE’VE BEEN IN AND MOST RECENTLY WE ALSO SAW. PAST MANY INCREASING MEMBERS OF GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWNS A THE TENDENCY. I REPORTED TO YOU KNOW WAS THIS COMMITTEE OR AD OR DIFFERENT MAYBE WAS WAYS AND MEANS BUT IN THE IN THE HISTORY OF OF SHUTDOWNS A THEY HAVE BEEN INCREASING IN THEIR FREQUENCY. IT SEEMS THAT THE. EXECUTIVE BRANCH. HAS FOUND AN EFFECTIVE BACK DOOR TOO. NEGOTIATE WITH A TRAM BRUNT OF OF LEADERS IN KUT THE LEGISLATOR OUT OF THE PROCESS AND AND FORCED THINGS INTO GRIDLOCK SO THAT’S UNFORTUNATE WHEN IT HAPPENS IT HAPPENS REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL PARTY. AND UH YOU KNOW IT. I DON’T THINK OUR FOUNDERS INTENDED IT TO BE THAT WAY GENERALLY WHEN BILLS GET VETOED IN AND IT LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD TO DO IS SHUT DOWN IT WAS USUALLY BECAUSE IT SPENDS STUDENT SPENDS TOO MUCH. AND WE’VE IN RECENT TRENDS; A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN BECAUSE WE DON’T SPEND ENOUGH. SO QUITE QUITE THE OPPOSITE SO ANYWAY. THANK YOU.>>MEMBERS AND I WORRY WE’RE RUNNING ITS 09:39:33AM ACCORDING TO MY WATCH WE’RE RUNNING LATE HERE SO IF WE CAN PICK THE SHORTENED WEEK AND MOVE ON THAT WAS MORE OF A COMMENT THAT QUESTION REPRESENTATIVE ALBRIGHT. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND TONIGHT. BUT JUST TO THE POINT OF CLARIFICATION AND EITHER MS. ROBERTS OR MISTER DURING CAN MAYBE SATISFY MY CURIOSITY.>>IN EACH ONE OF THE DIVISIONS JUST USE A SUBDIVISION ONE AS AN EXAMPLE ON LINE 1.1 1. THE TALKS ABOUT A THE THE CONTINUATION OF A MONEY’S BEING APPROPRIATED ANNUALLY THE FUND WHICH AN APPROPRIATION WAS MADE. SO IF WE HAVE NOT BEEN ACTED A BUDGET. IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THEY HAVE NO MONEY TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS FROM A FUND HOW DOES THAT WORK. I THINK I’M MISSING SOMETHING BUT I’M HOPING YOU CAN FILL IN THE GAPS. MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS THE WAY THE BILL IS.>>ADDRESS US THIS IS A GOOD. ONE IS REFERENCING THE SO WE HAVE 2 VERSIONS OF ITS TIME THAT YOU’RE LOOKING AT ONE 0.1.>>ONE ON THE THE ORIGINAL VERSION OF THE VILLAGES; YEAH I I DID NOT LOOK AT THE TV.>>SO I BELIEVE IT’S RAPTORS REFERENCE TO THE BASE AND THE APPROPRIATION THAT WAS MADE. PREVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE THE SOURCE. AND THAT’S HOW THE WHATEVER THE SOURCE OF THE FUNDING SO THE THERE’S A STORY.>>SO IS ROBERT SMITH MAY ALL BE TO WORK THINKING WHICH ARE.>>SO IF AN AGENCY OR THAT FUN WE APPROPRIATE MONEY ON THE BIENNIAL BASIS TO THAT FUND AND. PERCEPTION IS THAT THAT IS FILLED UP AND THEN DRAIN DOWN TO 0 OVER THE COURSE OF THE BIENNIAL AND SO THE CONCLUSION OF THE BIENNIUM IF WE DON’T WE FRESHEN RE APPROPRIATE MONEY WITHIN WITHIN A NEW BUDGET. ARE THEY ARE THEY DEALING WITH AS SOME TYPE OF RESERVE THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE OF OR DO THEY WHERE IS THAT MONEY GOING TO COME FROM IF WE APPROPRIATE THE MONEY IT’S GOING OUT THE DOOR WHERE IS THE MONEY STILL LEFT OVER OR THAT THEY APPROPRIATE FROM WHERE IS IT FROM THE EMERGENCY RESERVE LCC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THIS REUTERS MISTER>>CREATION AS THAT FRONT FROM THE FUND LEVEL SO THE FUNDS ARE FOR EXAMPLE; THE GENERAL FUND WHICH IS OKAY SO IT’S COMING FROM THE GENERAL QUOTE; THE GENERAL FUND OR OTHER FUNDS YOU CAN THERE’S A CHART IN THE FISCAL NOTE THAT GIVES YOU JUST AN ILLUSTRATION THIS IS A SNAPSHOT AND THAT SOME FAULTS NAPS THAT NOW BUT. TO SHOW YOU SORT OF LOOKED SO THAT THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND AND OTHER FUNDS THAT IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE PREVIOUS A PREPARATION FOR THAT AGENCY.>>SO MS. ROBERTS BUT MISTER CHAIR; THANK THAT DOES HELP CLARIFY IT SO IT’S REALLY COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND AS NECESSARY AND CERTIFIED BY THE AGENCIES THAT THEY NEED TO CARRY FORWARD AND BENEFITS AND CELERY. UNTIL A NEW BUDGET IS A PRO IS APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE AND THE AND THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH WILL MISS ROBERTS. MISTER TURNS REPRESENT ALL RIGHT WOULD COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND IF THAT WAS TO ITS ORIGINAL SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THE PREVIOUS SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THAT AGENCY IT WOULD COME FROM OTHER FUNDS.>>IF THAT WAS SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THE AGENCY FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE BOARDS THAT MAY BE FUNDED FROM SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS SO THAT IN THAT CASE THEY WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THAT FUND.>>PERCENT WANT AN UNARMED GETTING INTO THE TALL WEEDS HERE; MS. ROBERTS PURCHASES QUESTION SO IN THE EVENT OF SAY THE A. THE AGENCY FOR SUSTAINABILITY WHERE THEY ARE RELYING UPON INTERAGENCY AGREEMENTS TO FUND. EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND PAYROLL FOR THEIR PEOPLE. SO IF ALL THE AGENCIES ARE RELYING UPON MONEY BUT. ALSO THE INTERAGENCY AGREEMENTS HOW DOES THAT WORK.>>MISS ROBERTS AND MISTER CHAIR AND PURPOSE OF THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT I’M NOT SURE THAT THAT. I DON’T KNOW THE ANSWER RIGHT AWAY IT WOULD HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.>>AND MEMBERS REMEMBER THIS IS A BILL THAT WAS A PART OF THE OMNIBUS BILL LAST YEAR THAT WE ALL VOTED ON IN THE OMNIBUS BILL. WE CAME OUT HERE DID MAKE IT THROUGH THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE SO WE’VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS LAST YEAR SO I JUST I KNOW ARE FIRST DAY BACK IN COMMITTEE AND WE’RE TRYING TO REMEMBER THE STUFF THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE ALL WE HAVE TO STEP OUT LAST YEAR. ONE BEFORE SO.>>IN MISTER CHAIR AND I APPRECIATE THAT I THINK EVERYONE YOU KNOW SOMETIMES COMES INTO THE SECOND YEAR RECESSION OR EVEN YOU KNOW COMING OFF A WE CAN GET IT. LET’S FOG IN THE BRAIN A WITH A NEW SET OF EYES; A REPRESENTATIVE WILL I GO A LONG WAY BACK YOU KNOW UNFORTUNATELY. YOU FOR YOUR APPRECIATE THAT AND I THINK THE SHARES OR DOES OR TO CERTAINLY RESPECT THE WORK THAT IS DONE BY THE AGENCIES BUT AS REPRESENTATIVE CURTIS SAID. IT ANY TIME YOU TAKE AN EMPLOYMENT SITUATION IS AT RISK OF THE INFO OR SO THERE IS RISK AND THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE PAUL MAKING A POINT. YES; THANK YOU. MISTER CHAIR AND.>>BE NICE TO HAVE A RARE REFERENCE DOCUMENT MAYBE THAT COULD BE GENERATED IT’S ALONG THE SAME LINES BECAUSE THE DNR SINGER STATES MEN DOT HAVE FUNDS COMING IN; ESPECIALLY THE DNR HAS A HUGE PART OF THEIR BUDGET COMING IN AND THEY GO INTO DESIGNATED SOME OF THE INTRICACIES AND LOGISTICS THAT WOULD BE YOU KNOW FOR THE GENERAL FUND MAYBE PRIORITY TO AGENTS THAT DON’T HAVE THESE OTHER FUNDS AND IT BE NICE TO HAVE BABY THAT FOR FUTURE WITH THE DEBATE OF THIS BILL THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THERE’S SUCH INCONSISTENCY OF. ESSENTIAL SERVICES DEFINITION IN PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS. THEY HAD. I THINK PUT DURING PLENTY WHEN THERE’S A SHUTDOWN IF THEY MADE A PROJECT WAS STARTED. IT CONTINUED BECAUSE IT WAS STUPID NOT TO HIM. GOVERNOR DIDN’T HAVE THAT SAME DECISION SHUT DOWN THINGS ARE OPEN. AND I WAS SITTING NEXT TO A GOVERNOR DURING THIS SHUTDOWN AND TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS AND I I ASKED WHY ARE NOT FOOD BANKS CONSIDERED ESSENTIAL. SO IT MIGHT I’D LOVE THE AUTHOR OF THIS BILL TO ADD MAYBE A DEFINITION OF ESSENTIAL SERVICES SO THAT GOES BEYOND JUST THIS NARROW SCOPE BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY ARE ESSENTIAL. NO MATTER WHO THE ADMINISTRATION. YES; THANK YOU.>>SO MEMBERS; I’M GOING TO RENEW MY MOTION THAT HOUSE FILE. 1863 AS AMENDED THE REFERRED RE REFERRED BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT BE REFERRED TO THE GENERAL REFERRED TO THE GENERAL REGISTER WHERE APPLAUSE LAST YEAR.>>ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE AYE POSED. IS THE 3RD AND THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS NEVER IS A GOOD REMINDER WILL BE MEETING MONDAY EVENING AFTER SESSION AND UP. YOU THINK THAT NOTICE WENT OUT BUT JUST REMIND PEOPLE WITH THAT MEMBERS WE ARE RICHER.

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