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CNN’s Alisyn Camerota WARN that IMPEACHMENT probe HEATS Up as Trump’s Defense Flounders


I’ CHRISTINE ROMANS.>>I’M DAVE BRIGGS. “NEW DAY” STARTS NOW.>>>WE’RE TRYING TO FIND OUT ABOUT A WHISTLEBLOWER.>>ANY RATIONAL PERSON WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WHISTLEBLOWER’S SAFETY AFTER THE PRESIDENT’S COMMENTS.>>THE PRESIDENT HAS TO WORRY ABOUT CONVERSATIONS HE’S HAVING WITH WORLD LEADERS, BEING LEAKED TO THE PRESS. THAT’S NOT GOOD.>>THE FACT THAT MIKE POMPEO WOULD BE PART OF THIS CALL AND DOESN’T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT OR BRING ATTENTION TO ANYONE IN CONGRESS IS PROBLEMATIC.>>THIS COULD GET MESSY IF IT INCLUDES THE SECRETARY OF STATE.>>THIS IS “NEW DAY.”>>>WELCOME TO OUR VIEWERS IN THE UNITED STATES AND ALL AROUND THE WORLD. THIS IS “NEW DAY.” IT’S TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1st. WELCOME TO OCTOBER. 6:00 HERE IN NEW YORK. ARE YOU READY? EVERY MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS IN THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION OF THE PRESIDENT. REMEMBER ISSUE THE PARAMOUNT QUESTION IS DID THE PRESIDENT PRESSURE A FOREIGN LEADER TO INVESTIGATE AN OPPONENT. WE’VE SEEN EVIDENCE OF THAT IN BLACK AND WHITE. EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST CONTEXT. TO THAT END, WHILE YOU WERE BLINKING, RUDY GIULIANI HAS BEEN SUBPOENAED FOR ALL DOCUMENTS RELATED TO HIS ADMITTED ROLE IN PRESSURING THE UKRAINIANS FOR DIRT ON JOE BIDEN. IT REMAINS UNCLEAR WHETHER THE PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY WILL COMPLY. CNN HAS LEARNED THAT SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO WAS ON THE JULY 25th PHONE CALL WHERE PRESIDENT TRUMP LEANED ON THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT. POMPEO WAS LESS THAN FULSOME WHEN ASKED ABOUT THIS PUBLICLY. THIS COULD TRIGGER A NEW SUBPOENA FOR HIS TESTIMONY. AND A SOURCE TELLS CNN PRESIDENT TRUMP RECENTLY PRESSED AUSTRALIA’S PRIME MINISTER TO HELP BILL BARR WITH HIS INVESTIGATION OF THE ORIGINS OF THE RUSSIA PROBE. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL’S EXPANSIVE AND PERSONAL ROLE IN PUSHING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION. >>>>. >>AND PRESIDENT TRUMPS CONTINUE TO DECLARE HE WILL TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER’S IDENTITY DESPITE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT PERSON’S SAFETY. NOW THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, A TRUMP NOMINEE IS REFUTING THE PRESIDENT’S CLAIMS THAT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER LACKED FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE CONDUCT THAT’S OUTLINED IN THE COMPLAINT. APPARENTLY THE WHISTLE-BLOWER DOES HAVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE. THE INSPECTOR GENERAL IS EXPECTED TO TESTIFY ON FRIDAY. THAT WILL CAP A BUSY WEEK AHEAD AS THIS IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEATS UP. SO LET’S BEGIN OUR COVERAGE WITH CNN’S SUZANNAL SUZANNE. >>Reporter: ALSO TO TALK TO KEY WITNESSES IN THE UKRAINE SCANDAL AS A PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES FIGHTING BACK. HOUSE DEMOCRATS ESTIMATING THEIR IMPEACHMENT STRATEGY AS THREE COMMITTEES ISSUE A SUBPOENA TO RUDY GIULIANI ORDERING PRESIDENT TRUMP’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY TO SUBMIT DOCUMENTS RELATED TO UKRAINE. >>WE’VE ASKED FOR HIS DOCUMENTS. WE’LL THEN TALK TO HIS ASSOCIATES AND DECIDE WHETHER TO BRING HIM IN AT THAT POINT. >>GIULIANI’S STUNNING ADMISSION IN A CNN INTERVIEW THAT HE PRESSED THE UKRAINIANS TO INVESTIGATE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN AND HIS SON FUELED THE DEMOCRATS’ DECISION. THE THREE CHAIRMEN SUGGESTING HE HAS EVIDENCE IN THE FORM OF TEXT MESSAGES, PHONE RECORDS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS INDICATING THAT YOU ARE NOT ACTING ALONE AND THAT OTHER TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE SCHEME. GIULIANI SAYS HE’S UNDECIDED ON WHETHER HE WILL APPEAR BEFORE CONGRESS.>>OH, I DON’T KNOW. I’M WEIGHING THE ALTERNATIVES. I’LL KIND OF LIKE GO THROUGH IT. I’LL GET ALL MY EVIDENCE TOGETHER. I’LL GET MY CHARTS. >>THIS AS A SOURCE TELLS CNN SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO WAS ALSO ON THE JULY 25th PHONE CALL WITH THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT. WHEN QUESTIONED ABOUT IT LAST WEEK, POMPEO DEFLECTED. >>WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THOSE CONVERSATIONS?>>SO YOU JUST GAVE ME A REPORT ABOUT A WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT, NONE OF WHICH I’VE SEEN.>>Reporter: A SOURCE FAMILIAR WITH A RECENT CALL BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT AND THE AUSTRALIAN PRIME MINISTER TELLS CNN THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP PRESSURED HIM TO HELP ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR REVIEW THE ORIGINS OF THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION. THE WHITE HOUSE DISMISSING THE REPORT CALLING IT PART OF A PREVIOUSLY ANNOUNCED INVESTIGATION. >>IT’S OKAY TO COOPERATE WITH MUELLER TO GET TRUMP, BUT IT’S NOT OKAY TO COOPERATE WITH BARR TO FIND OUT TRUMP WAS A VICTIM OF AN OUT OF CONTROL INTELLIGENCE OPERATION? WE’RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A COUNTRY LIKE THAT. >>Reporter: PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES CALLED OUT BY THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY INSPECTOR GENERAL WHO WAS A TRUMP APPOINTEE FORCEFULLY PUSHING BACK AGAINST FALSE NARRATIVES THAT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER LACKED FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE CONDUCT OUTLINED IN THE COMPLAINT. THE DOCUMENT STATING THE WHISTLE-BLOWER POSSESSED FIRSTHAND AND OTHER INFORMATION AND THAT THE I.G. DETERMINED THAT OTHER INFORMATION OBTAINED DURING THE ICIG’S PRELIMINARY REVIEW SUPPORTED THE COMPLAINANT’S ALLEGATIONS. MEANWHILE, PRESIDENT TRUMP’S FOCUS, FINDING OUT WHO THE WHISTLE-BLOWER IS.>>WE’RE TRYING TO FIND OUT ABOUT A WHISTLE-BLOWER. WE HAVE A WHISTLE-BLOWER THAT REPORTS THINGS THAT WERE INCORRECT. >>THE WHISTLE-BLOWER’S ATTORNEY TWEETING THEY ARE ENTITLED TO ANONYMITY AND IS NOT TO BE RETALIATED AGAINST. DOING SO IS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW. >>ANY RATIONAL PERSON WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER’S SAFETY.>>Reporter: AND ALL THIS COMES AS MITCH McCONNELL CONCEDES THAT THE SENATE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE UP IMPEACHMENT IF THE HOUSE PASSED ARTICLES CHARGING THE PRESIDENT WITH CRIMES.>>THANK YOU FOR LAYING ALL OF THAT OUT. PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES ARE TRYING TO DISCREDIT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER, BUT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL IS>>>NEW QUESTIONS THIS MORNING ABOUT HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY RUDY GIULIANI WILL RESPOND AFTER BEING SUBPOENAED FOR ALL DOCUMENTS RELATED TO HIS OUTREACH TO THE UKRAINIANS INCLUDING HIS EVERYDAY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO OPEN INVESTIGATION INTO THE BIDENS. “THE WASHINGTON POST” REPORTS THAT GIULIANI TOLD THEM HE HAS AT LEAST 40 TEXTS FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT ASKING HIM TO GET INVOLVED. I WANT TO BRING IN CNN POLITICAL ANALYST RACHEL BAY, AND CNN POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT ABBY PHILLIP. IN TERMS OF RUDY GIULIANI, TWO THINGS FASCINATE ME ABOUT THIS LETTER FROM CONGRESS. NUMBER ONE, THE LETTER POINTS OUT RUDY GIULIANI, YOU ADMITTED TO THIS ALREADY. YOU WENT ON CNN AND TOLD CHRIS CUOMO YOU PRESSURED THE UKRAINIANS FOR DIRT ON JOE BIDEN. THAT’S NUMBER ONE. THE OTHER THING THAT’S FASCINATING TO ME IS THAT IF YOU DO NOT COMPLY WITH SUBPOENA IT WILL BE USED AS AN ADVERSE INFERENCE AGAINST YOU AND THE PRESIDENT, WHICH MEANS POTENTIALLY AN ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT. SO RACHEL, IS THIS THE WHOLE NEW BALL GAME WE’RE SEEING HERE? CONGRESS FLEXING ITS NEW MUSCLE WITH AN OFFICIAL IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, AND DID WE SEE SIGNS RUDY IS CRACKING?>>YEAH, WE’RE DEFINITELY SEEING THEY WERE SERIOUS WHEN THEY SAID THEY’RE GOING TO MOVE QUICKLY. THIS ONLY CAME OUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO. WE’RE ALREADY SEEING THEM SAY WE NEED TO TALK TO RUDY GIULIANI. IT WAS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME SINCE HE’S REALLY AT THE HEART OF THIS UKRAINIAN CONTROVERSY, HAD MET WITH UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS TO CARRY OUT TRUMP’S WISH TO INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN. YOU MENTIONED THOSE TEXT MESSAGES. DEMOCRATS WANT TO SEE THOSE TEXT MESSAGES TO SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAD BEEN COORDINATING WITH THEM, WHO ELSE WAS PART OF THIS EFFORT. IT’S ONLY BEEN TWO WEEKS, AND WE ARE SEEING THEM MOVE LIKE LIGHTNING RIGHT NOW . THEY ARE SERIOUS ABOUT HAVING AN IMPEACHMENT VOTE BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS, AND WE’RE SEEING THAT RIGHT HERE. >>TO PROVE YOUR POINT, HERE’S THE CALENDAR THAT WE KNOW OF. HERE’S WHAT THE HOUSE INTEL IS DOING. MA MARIE YEA SHE WAS RECALLED UNDER SORT OF DUBIOUS CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, THE REPORTING IS THAT SHE WOULDN’T GO ALONG WITH THE NARRATIVE OF THE ADMINISTRATION TO INVESTIGATE WHAT THEY WANTED TO INVESTIGATE. SHE WAS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO DO HER JOB. THAT’S AT LEAST THE REPORTING. KURT VOLKER WHO JUST RESIGNED HIS POST, HE’S THE FORMER U.S. SPECIAL ENVOY TO UKRAINE. AND MICHAEL ATKINSON WHO’S THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, WHO HAS A LOT OF THESE ANSWERS AND WHO IS COMING TO THE DEFENSE OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER. THEN MIKE POMPEO, THEN RUDY GIULIANI ON OCTOBER 15th. I DON’T KNOW WHICH ONE YOU SHOULD BE POPPING MORE POPCORN FOR. ALL OF THESE ARE SO FASCINATING. WHAT I’M STRUCK BY IS THAT THEY’RE GETTING TO THEM QUICKLY. THIS IS SO DIFFERENT THAN THE MUELLER REPORT. LIKE SHE JUST — SHE WAS RECALLED, AND THEN THE SPECIAL ENVOY JUST RESIGNED AND THEY’RE ALREADY CALLING THEM WITHIN DAYS. >>ABSOLUTELY. IT’S PART OF THE EFFORT TO GET AHEAD OF WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN DOING ON OTHER PROBES WHICH IS STALLING FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, TRYING TO GET THESE THINGS LOCKED UP IN THE COURTS AND TRYING TO FRUSTRATE THE NARRATIVE THAT DEMOCRATS MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER ABOUT ANY KIND OF WRONGDOING. IT IS ALSO CRITICAL FOR SOME OF THESE OFFICIALS WHO WILL BE THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF A BROADER CASE ABOUT WHO KNEW WHAT WHEN, AND PARTICULARLY HOW HIGH IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. I’M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN WHAT KURT VOLKER HAD TO SAY. HE IS A KEY PERSON IN ALL OF THIS. HE PLAYED A MIDDLE MAN ROLE BETWEEN GIULIANI AND THE UKRAINIANS. WHAT DID HE KNOW ABOUT WHY THAT AID WAS HELD UP, AND ABOUT WHAT GIULIANI WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING EXACTLY? WHAT DID PRESIDENT TRUMP WANT GIULIANI TO BE DOING, AND WHAT DID HE COMMUNICATE TO HIS SENIOR DIPLOMATIC STAFF ABOUT HOW THIS SHOULD AFFECT U.S. FOREIGN POLICY WITH UKRAINE? THESE ARE REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL QUESTIONS THAT WILL START TO FILL IN SOME OF THE BLANKS HERE ABOUT MOTIVE AND ABOUT WHEN PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THIS. BILL BARR HAS TRIED TO CLAIM HE DIDN’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT GIULIANI WAS DOING AND DIDN’T ACTUALLY ACT ON IT. THE QUESTION IS THAT REALLY TRUE, AND WHAT EXACTLY DOES KURT VOLKER KNOW ABOUT THAT. >>YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFICULT SITUATION THIS PUTS DIPLOMATS IN, THE STATE DEPARTMENT IN. YOU COULD SEE IT WHEN MIKE POMPEO WAS ASKED A DIRECT QUESTION ABOUT THIS. WE NOW KNOW BASED ON A REPORTING THAT MIKE POMPEO WAS ON THE CALL WHERE THE PRESIDENT LEANED ON THE UKRAINIAN LEADER MARTHA RADDATZ TEN DAYS AGO ASKED MIKE POMPEO ABOUT THIS. I WANT YOU TO WATCH HIM SQUIRM DO DURING THIS ANSWER. >>WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION?>>YOU JUST GAVE ME A REPORT ABOUT A WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT, NONE OF WHICH I’VE SEEN.>>SHE ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT A PHONE CALL HE WAS ON, RACHEL, HE WAS ON THAT PHONE CALL. HE KNEW IT WHEN HE WAS ANSWERING A QUESTION TO MARTHA. THAT’S GOING TO BE A WORLD OF PROBLEMS FOR HIM. >>IT’S BEEN REALLY INTERESTING TO WATCH THE REPUBLICAN LEADERS, KEVIN McCARTHY IN HIS “60 MINUTES” INTERVIEW, HE WAS PUSHING BACK ON A TRANSCRIPT, THE INTERVIEWER WAS READING VERBATIM. REPUBLICANS ARE UNCOMFORTABLE HERE. YOU’RE SEEING IT WHEN YOU WATCH KEVIN McCARTHY ON TV. THE HOUSE HAS ALREADY SUBPOENAED HIM FOR INFORMATION. THEY WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE KNEW. HE WAS ON THAT CALL, HOW MUCH DID HE KNOW ABOUT WHAT RUDY GIULIANI WAS DOING, YOU KNOW, IN UKRAINE, AND THE THEY WANT TO SEE HOW SYSTEMATIC WAS THE EFFORT TO PUT THE PRESSURE ON UKRAINE TO INVESTIGATE THE BIDENS. >>WHAT I THINK IS SO INTERESTING, ABBY, IS THAT HE’S UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO TELL MART MARTHA RADDATZ THE TRUTH, HE CAN LIE TO HER. IF HE WAS ON THE CALL AND THERE WAS NOTHING UNTOWARD WHY LIE ABOUT IT. THESE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.>>AND ALISYN, WE SHOULD MAKE A NOTE THAT POMPEO ALSO ARGUED AGAINST RELEASING THIS TRANSCRIPT. HE DID NOT WANT THIS TRANSCRIPT OUT, AND NOW WE KNOW IT’S BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE CALL. HE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HAD BEEN SAID ON THAT CALL, AND HE DID NOT THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO PRESIDENT TRUMP. TURNS OUT HE WAS PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT THAT. >>NEWTHAT’S VERY GOOD CONTEXT. >>>CONCERN IS GROWING INSIDE THE WEST WING ABOUT HOW THE PRESIDENT IS HANDLING THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. WE HAVE BRAND NEW REPORTING ABOUT THE WARNING THE PRESIDENT IS NOW GETTING FROM HIS OWN . >>>CONCERN IS REPORTEDLY GROWING INSIDE THE WEST WING OVER THE PRESIDENT’S HANDLING OF THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. SOURCES TELL CNN THAT SOME OF THE PRESIDENT’S AIDES ARE WARNING HIM THAT IT IS LIKELY THAT HE WILL BE IMPEACHED IN THE HOUSE AND THAT THEY ARE FRUSTRATED THAT THE PRESIDENT WILL NOT GIVE UP ON HIS CONSPIRACY THEORIES ABOUT THE 2016 ELECTION AND BEYOND. JOINING US NOW CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR JOE LOCKHART, PRESIDENT CLINTON’S PRESS SECRETARY AND LED THE WAR ROOM DURING CLINTON’S IMPEACHMENT INQ INQUIRY. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT REPORTING? DURING THE CLINTON IMPEACHMENT, WERE THERE AIDES THAT WERE COMING TO THE PRESIDENT AND SAYING YOU’RE HANDLING THIS BADLY?>>THERE’S TWO PARTS TO THAT. ONE IS, I THINK, THAT IT WAS WELL INTO NOVEMBER WHEN MOST OF THE WHITE HOUSE STAFF WITH PRESIDENT CLINTON THOUGHT HE WASN’T GOING TO BE IMPEACHED. WE WON THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS, AND WE THOUGHT THAT SENT A MESSAGE TO THE REPUBLICANS TO BACK OFF. WE REALIZED LATE THERE WAS NOTHING TO STOP THEM, AND ARE THEY WERE GOING TO GO AHEAD. WE DID NOT HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH THE CONSPIRACY THEORY. I MEAN, I THINK ALL POLITICAL PEOPLE WILL FOCUS ON LITTLE PIECES OF INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, THAT SEEM TO EXONERATE THEM, BUT PRESIDENT CLINTON WAS VERY DISCIPLINED TO NOT TALK ABOUT THIS IN PUBLIC. THE PROBLEM THE WHITE HOUSE STAFF IS HAVING NOW IS THE PRESIDENT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, LIVING OUT LOUD. EVERYTHING HE THINKS, EVERY THOUGHT THAT CROSSES HIS MIND HE PUTS ON TWITTER, AND IT’S JUST — IT GIVES EVERYBODY A RUNNING LIST OF EVERY HOUR A NEW HEADLINE. >>I CAN SEE WHY THEY MIGHT BE CONCERNED. THERE’S EVIDENCE THAT’S BACKFIRING. THE INSPECTOR GENERAL OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, A TRUMP APPOINTEE LAST NIGHT BASICALLY FOUGHT BACK AGAINST THE ADMINISTRATION, THE SUGGESTION THAT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT IS JUST SECONDHAND INFORMATION. THIS IS WHAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL WROTE. HE WROTE THIS, HE SAID IN SHORT THE I CIG DID NOT FINE THE COMPLAINANT COULD FIND NOTHING MORE THAN SECONDHAND INFORMATION. THE ICIG DETERMINED THAT OTHER INFORMATION OBTAINED DURING THE PRELIMINARY REVIEW SUPPORTED THE COMPLAINANT’S ALLEGATIONS. OTHER INFORMATION OBTAINED. BECAUSE OF THE WHAT THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES HAVE SAID, THEIR OWN INSPECTOR GENERAL SAID HUH-UH, NOT ONLY ARE YOU WRONG, BUT I HAVE MORE.>>YEAH, AND YOU KNOW THE WEEKEND WAS ABOUT REPUBLICAN LEADERS FANNING OUT AND USING THE HEARSAY ARGUMENT AND TRYING TO DENIGRATE WHAT THE IC HAD DONE, WHAT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER HAD BROUGHT TO THE IC, AND IT DEMONSTRATES, I THINK THE WEAKNESS IN THE WHITE HOUSE STRATEGY, WHICH IS THEY ARE ARGUING IN A WAY WHERE EVERY REVELATION NOW IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WEAKEN THEIR ARGUMENT. THEIR ARGUMENT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING WAS DONE WRONG HERE, AND YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WAS PERFECT, WHEN IN FACT A LOT OF THINGS WERE DONE WRONG HERE. THE BETTER ARGUMENT FOR THEM WOULD BE TO SAY LET’S LET THE INVESTIGATORS LOOK AT THIS. WE’RE GOING TO FOCUS ON OTHER THINGS RIGHT NOW. THE PRESIDENT’S GOING TO BE THE PRESIDENT. WE’VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER WORK TO DO. YOU KNOW, WE’VE GOT TALKS STARTING AGAIN IN NORTH KOREA. THAT’S IMPORTANT. WE’VE GOT OTHER ISSUES, BUT YOU KNOW, THE ARGUMENT THEY’RE USING, YOU’RE GOING TO FIND WEEK BY WEEK THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN, OKAY, YOU WON’T HEAR HEARSAY ANYMORE. THAT’S BEEN DEBUNKED. YOU WON’T HEAR THAT THINGS WERE PUT — YOU KNOW, COVERED UP, PUT ON THE PRIVATE SERVER BECAUSE THAT’S GOING TO BE DOCUMENTED IN THE HEARINGS. THEIR ARGUMENT RATHER THAN BEING DURABLE AND BEING ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THESE REVELATIONS GETS WEAKENED EVERY DAY. >>THEY’RE REALLY NOT TAKING YOUR FREE ADVICE. YOU’VE BEEN SAYING THIS ABOUT THEY SHOULD FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE’S BUSINESS. THEY SHOULD PIVOT TO THE THINGS PEOPLE CARE ABOUT. THEY’RE REALLY NOT DOING THAT IN A STRIKING WAY. >>I LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE MY PAID ADVICE IS BETTER THAN MY FREE ADVICE. IN THIS CASE, THE FREE ADVICE IS REAL HAVING COME OUT OF EXPERIENCE HAVING BEEN THROUGH THIS. IT’S NOT MY JOB TO HELP PRESIDENT TRUMP. I THINK HE’S IN SERIOUS TROUBLE FOR SERIOUS REASONS. THE PATH THEY’RE PURSUING IS NOT GOING TO WORK, AND THE PATH THEY’RE PURSUING IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE PRESIDENT, AND THE PRESIDENT IS SOMEONE WHO IS SELF-INDULGENT, SELF-PITYING, AND IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO ANY THEORY NO MATTER HOW OUTRAGEOUS OR OUT THERE THAT SEEMS TO BE EXCULPATORY FOR HIM. THERE’S ONE THING FOR POLITICIANS TO SIT IN A ROOM AND FEEL SORRY FOR THEMSELVES AND, YOU KNOW, SORT OF GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS. WHEN THEY DO IT OUT LOUD, THEY GIVE EVERYONE LIKE YOU A CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW, LAY IT ALL OUT AND EXPOSE THE LIES, YOU KNOW, THE MADE UP STORIES, AND THE CONSPIRACIES.>>HAD YOU DO IT OUT LOUD NOW, IT COULD BE A NEW ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT LIKE ATTACKING THE WHISTLE-BLOWER. SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAS LEGALME CAREFUL OUT THERE AS WELL AS YOUR CREW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR REPORTING ALL OF THIS VIOLENCE.>>>BREAKING NEWS, DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL HOPEFULS BERNIE SANDERS AND PETE BUTTIGIEG MOMENTS AGO RELEASING THEIR THIRD QUARTER FUND-RAISING NUMBERS. SANDERS RAISED A WHOPPING $25.3 MILLION. HIS CAMPAIGN TOUTS A RECORD BREAKING SEPTEMBER. THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN DID NOT MATCH THEIR OWN $25 MILLION SECOND QUARTER, BUT DID PULL IN A $19.1 MILLION HAUL FOR THEIR THIRD QUARTER. >>THAT’S A LOT OF MONEY. >>>NEW THIS MORNING, CALIFORNIA HAS CHANGED THE GAME OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS OR MAYBE PASSING A LAW THAT REQUIRES PLAYERS OR ALLOWS PLAYERS TO GET PAID FOR SCHOOLS USING THEIR LIKENESS AND MAKING MONEY OFF OF THEM. ANDY SCHOLES HAS THE LATEST. >>THIS NEW LAW DOESN’T MEAN COLLEGE ATHLETES ARE GOING TO BE PAID BY THEIR SCHOOLS IN CALIFORNIA, BUT IT DOES MEAN FOR THE FIRST TIME THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO PROFIT FROM THEIR NAME, IMAGE AND LIKENESS. THE CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR SIGNING THE FAIR PAY TO PLAY ACT INTO LAW ON LeBRON JAMES’S SHOW THE SHOP. THE NEW LAW THAT GOES INTO EFFECT IN 2023 WILL ALLOW COLLEGE ATHLETES TO HIRE AGENTS AND SHOE SALES. LeBRON DIDN’T GO TO COLLEGE, BUT HAD HE GONE TO OHIO STATE, HE SAYS HE WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF UNDER THE CURRENT RULES. >>I WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE KIDS, IF I WOULD HAVE WENT OFF TO OHIO STATE OR ANY ONE OF THESE BIG TIME COLLEGES WHERE PRETTY MUCH THAT 23 JERSEY WOULD HAVE GOT SOLD ALL OVER THE PLACE WITHOUT MY NAME ON THE BACK COMING FROM ME AND MY MOM, WE DIDN’T HAVE ANYTHING. WE WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BENEFIT AT ALL FROM IT.>>SOMEONE NEEDS TO FORCE THIS DIC DICTATORSHIP TO CHANGE BECAUSE THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. IT’S NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY COUNTRY THAT’S RAN BY DICTATORS. THE NCAA IS A DICTATORSHIP. >>THE NCAA RESPONDED IN A STATEMENT SAYING IT’S CONSIDERING ITS NEXT STEP ADDING UNFORTUNATELY THIS NEW LAW IS ALREADY CREATING CONFUSION IN CURRENT AND FUTURE STUDENT ATHLETES, COACHES, ADMINISTRATORS AND CAMPUSES AND NOT JUST IN CALIFORNIA. YOU KNOW, GUYS, THE NCAA HAS CALLED THIS BILL IN THE PAST UNCONSTITUTIONAL, SO ALL INDICATIONS ARE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO>>>NEW POLLS ON IMPEACHMENT SHOW MAJOR SHIFTS IN PUBLIC OPINION. LET’S GET THE FORECAST WITH CNN’S POLITICS HARRY, BIG SWINGS HERE. >>I WOULD SAY SO MR. FRIEND MR. BERMAN. DO YOU WANT TO IMPEACH HIM, REMOVE TRUMP FROM OFFICE? NOW WE’RE UP TO 47%. BACK IN MAY IT WAS JUST 41%. NOW A PLURALITY SAY THEY WANT TO IMPEACH REMOVAL. VERSUS IN MAY WE WERE WAY BACK WHERE NO WAS AT 54%. LOOK AT THIS QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY JUMP RIGHT HERE. 47, 47. JUST LAST WEEK ON IMPEACH TO REMOVE, THE NO ON IMPEACH REMOVE WAS AT 57%. WE’RE SEEING MASSIVE MOVEMENT TOWARDS THE YES COLUMN. >>THE WAY THIS QUESTION IS ASKED IS IMPEACH AND REMOVE HERE, WHICH ISN’T EVEN WHERE CONGRESS IS NOW. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT CONGRESS IS DOING LAUNCHING THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, IT LOOKS WORSE FOR THE PRESIDENT. >>TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, DO YOU SUPPORT THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY? WE HAVE TWO POLLS OUT THIS PAST FEW DAYS, AND WHAT DO WE SEE. CBS NEWS, 55% SAY YES, THEY SUPPORT THAT. QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY 52 TO 45 SAY YES, THEY SUPPORT THAT. AND THAT IS MASSIVE MOVEMENT FROM AUGUST WHEN MONMOUTH UNIVERSITY ASKED A SIMILAR QUESTION AND THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY ONLY 41% SAID YES, 51% SAID NO. YOU WENT FROM A MINORITY TO A CLEAR MAJORITY. >>WHERE IS THE SWING COMING FROM?>>TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. THIS IS RATHER INTERESTING. THIS IS OUR CNN SS POLL. AMONG REPUBLICANS, THIS IS WHERE WE’RE SEEING THE MOVEMENT COMING FROM. IT’S NOT TRUMP’S BASE. AMONG THOSE VERY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS, 2% SUPPORT IMPEACH AND REMOVE IN MAY. THAT DROPPED TO 1% NOW. THERE’S NOT A LOT OF MOVEMENT THERE. IT’S ACTUALLY ON THE LEFT MODERATE WING OF THE PARTY, THE MODERATES AND LIBERALS, 16% SUPPORTED IMPEACH AND REMOVE IN MAY. VERSUS 64% SAID NO. BASICALLY WE HAVE A THIRD OF THE LEFT WING PART OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SAYING YES, WE WANT TO IMPEACH REMOVE THE PRESIDENT. >>IS THAT A BIG WING OF THE PARTY?>>IT IS NOT AS SMALL AS YOU MIGHT THINK. A THIRD CALL THEMSELVES MODERATE TO CONSERVATIVE. IN CONGRESS THESE REPRESENTATIVES MAKE UP A LOT MORE, WHICH SHOULDN’T BE SO SURPRISING WHY THEY’RE BACKING UP TRUMP SO MUCH. >>WHAT ELSE DO YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE INQUIRY RIGHT NOW?>>I THINK THERE ARE A FEW OTHER THINGS. TALKING ABOUT TRUMP AND THE UKRAINE, THIS MIGHT BE WHY THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY IS POLLING HIGHER. DO YOU THINK THAT PHONE CALL WAS ESSENTIALLY IMPROPER OR WRONG? WHAT DO WE SEE? WE SEE 48 AND 50% SAY YES. THEY BELIEVE IT’S IMPROPER IN THE CNN POLL AND THE QUINN IPIA POLL. >>WE HAVE IT IN BLACK AND WHITE HERE. THIS IS EVIDENCE PEOPLE HAVE WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT IN SOME CASES THAN THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION. HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO PAST IMPEACHMENTS WE SEE?>>I THINK THIS IS RATHER IMPORTANT. LET’S COMPARE TRUMP TO OTHER PRESIDENTS AT SIMILAR POINTS WHO FACED AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY OR IMPEACHMENT AND REMOVAL. WHAT WE SEE IS RIGHT NOW IN THE POLLS, 54% SAY YES TO THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, VERSUS CLINTON AT THIS POINT OCTOBER OF 1998 ONLY 45% SAID YES. CLEARLY THE PUBLIC’S FURTHER ALONG ON THAT. WE CAN LOOK AT THE IMPEACH AND REMOVE QUESTION. WHAT DO WE SEE HERE? 47, 45 YES, NO IN SEPTEMBER OF 2019 TO IMPEACH AND REMOVE TRUMP. CLINTON WAS WAY BEHIND THAT AT THIS POINT, ON THE 31% SAID THEY WANTED TO IMPEACH AND REMOVE. THIS LOOKS LIKE NIXON WHERE THE SPLIT WAS 43% TO 41%. >>I WANT TO POINT OUT THE DATE HERE WHICH WAS FOUR, FIVE MONTHS BEFORE HE RESIGNED. >>THAT’S CORRECT.>>THIS IS N DAYS ISSUE FOR RICHARD NIXON. THERE IS A NUMBER WHICH I THINK IS SURPRISINGLY GOOD FOR THE PRESIDENT. >>I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. TRUMP’S OVERALL STANDING ACCORDING TO QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY. HIS APPROVAL RATING IS THE SAME IT WAS LAST WEEK. IT’S A RISE IN POINT ALTHOUGH THAT IS STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT. THE STRONGLY APPROVE NUMBER FOR TRUMP, 35%. THAT’S UP FROM 29% LAST WEEK ACCORDING TO QUINNIPIAC. IT’S MORE THAN THAT. THAT 35% IS THE HIGHEST OF THE PRESIDENCY SO FAR FOR TRUMP, SO THERE’S CLEARLY SOME RALLYING AROUND THE BASE FOR TRUMP GOING ON RIGHT NOW. >>THERE MIGHT BE A CEILING IN THAT NUMBER. THESE NUMBERS ARE REALLY INTERESTING AND THEY MAY HELP DRIVE THIS DISCUSSION OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US. >>>JOHN, IT’S BEEN MORE THAN TWO YEARS SINCE THE GLOBAL #METOO MOVEMENT BEGAN CALLING FOR POWERFUL MEN TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT, ASSAULT AND MISCONDUCT. NEW YORK MAGAZINE’S SENIOR CORRESPONDENT SPOKE TO 25 ACCUSERS/SURVIVORS ABOUT THEIR DECISIONS TO SPEAK OUT AND WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THEY DID. ARIN JOINS ME NOW. WHAT AN EYE OPENING PIECE YOU HAVE WITH THESE 25 PEOPLE YOU WENT BACK TO SPEAK WITH, AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE PAINFUL REPERCUSSIONS OF THEM COMING FORWARD, SOME OF THEM LOST JOBS. ONE OF THEM LOST THEIR CHILD IN A CUSTODY DISPUTE. SO TELL US ABOUT YOUR REPORTING AND WHAT YOU FOUND. >>ALISYN, I THINK EVEN NOW TWO YEARS AFTER A GLOBAL MOVEMENT USED THE HASHTAG #METOO IN ORDER TO EXPRESS WHAT THEY HAD BEEN THROUGH, EVEN NOW PEOPLE STILL DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO COME FORWARD. IT IS STILL ENORMOUSLY DIFFICULT. SO MY COLLEAGUES AND I WANTED TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THEY SPOKE UP AND EVERYONE ELSE MOVED ON. THERE’S STILL A MISCONCEPTION THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT INVOLVES PERSONAL GAIN. PEOPLE STILL ASK WHY DID YOU SAY NOTHING AT THE TIME. WHY DID YOU ONLY DO THIS YEARS LATER? WHAT KIND OF EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE? AND THEN THERE’S THE AFTERMATH. IS THERE A PERSONAL GAIN? IS THERE FAME? WELL, AMONG THE 25 PEOPLE THAT WE SPOKE TO AND WE SPOKE TO MANY MORE THAN WE COULD INCLUDE, THERE WAS A LOT OF COST. IT WAS PAINFUL. IT CHANGED THEIR RELATIONSHIPS. IT CHANGED THEIR PROFESSIONAL LIFE. THEY LOST OPPORTUNITIES. THEY STILL WONDER WHETHER THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THEY DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT THAT THEY LOST. IN SOME WAYS THESE ARE THE FRONT LINE SOLDIERS OF SOCIAL CHANGE. THEY’RE THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THEMSELVES ON THE LINES CAN THEY MAY BE CASUALTIES. >>HERE’S ONE EXAMPLE. YOU TALKED TO A WOMAN WHO SAID SHE WAS PROPOSITIONED AND SHOWED SEXUAL MATERIAL BY MULTIPLE SUPERVISORS AT THIS FORD CHICAGO ASSEMBLY PLANT. SHE WAS REMOVED FROM WORK ASSIGNMENT BS. SHE WAS CALLED A SNITCH. SHE TOLD YOU, QUOTE, I’M SEEING A PSYCHIATRIST AND I HAVE MEDICATION TO COPE WITH MY ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION. I WOULD NEVER DO IT AGAIN, AND I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND ANOTHER WOMAN DO IT. WHY WOULD I TELL SOMEONE TO GO UP AGAINST A BILLIONAIRE COMPANY LIKE THIS AND DESTROY THEIR LIFE. I MEAN, THAT IS JUST A HORRIBLE OUTCOME.>>IT IS, AND I THINK IT’S A CHALLENGE TO OUR SOCIETY, YOU KNOW. HOW DO WE CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE DON’T SUFFER THOSE CONSEQUENCES IF THEY CREDIBLY SPEAK UP, IF THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESSES THAT THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO. THESE PEOPLE ARE WHISTLE-BLOWERS. THEY ARE CALLING ATTENTION TO ABUSES OF POWER IN OUR SOCIETY, AND IF WE CAN’T MAKE SURE THAT THEY’RE PROTECTED, THAT THEY DON’T END UP IN DEBT, LOSING THEIR CHILDREN, LOSING THEIR JOBS, AND THIS IS NOT EVERYBODY’S EXPERIENCE BUT IT IS THE EXPERIENCE OF MANY, HOW CAN WE PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN, AND HOW CAN WE TELL PEOPLE YOU SHOULD COME FORWARD? YOU SHOULD SAY SOMETHING? WHY DID THEY STILL DO IT? THEY DID IT BECAUSE THEY FELT A SENSE OF DUTY AND THEY WANTED THE FUTURE TO BE BETTER. THERE ARE STILL SOME PEOPLE WHO WE SPOKE TO WHO SAID THAT THEY WOULD DO IT AGAIN. I THINK WE NEED TO CREATE MORE CIRCUMSTANCES, MORE ENVIRONMENTS WHERE TRANSPARENCY IS POSSIBLE AND WHERE IT’S A LITTLE SAFER. >>THIS IS SUCH A CAUTIONARY TALE, THOUGH, THAT WE’RE NOT THERE YET. YOUR PIECE IS SUCH A CAUTIONARY TALE. ON BALANCE WOULD YOU SAY THE 25 PEOPLE YOU SPOKE TO MOST WOULD SAY THEY’VE HAD NEGATIVE REPERCUSSIONS AND WOULDN’T DO IT AGAIN?>>I THINK MOST ACTUALLY SAID THEY WOULD DO IT AGAIN EVEN THOUGH THEY SUFFERED NEGATIVE REPERCUSSIONS. MY COLLEAGUE AMELIA SPOKE TO A WOMAN WHO WORKED IN A MEAT PACKING PLANT IN MISSISSIPPI. SHE’S AN UNDOCUMENTED WORKER. THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO SHE SPOKE OUT THROUGH THE EEOC PROCESS THE WAY YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO FWOGO. THEY HAD A SETTLEMENT W. IT COULD BE VIEWED AS RETALIATION. IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, EVEN SO SHE STILL SAYS SHE SPOKE UP FOR HER RIGHTS AND SHE’S GLAD THAT SHE DID IT. NOW I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT YET COME FORWARD. WE ALSO — I REPORT AN ALLEGATION, IT’S THE NINTH ALLEGATION OF AL FRANKEN BEHAVING INAPPROPRIATELY. THE REASON I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO REPORT IS THERE ARE SO MANY STORIES WE HAVEN’T HEARD YET. HOW TO WE CREATE A SPACE WHERE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE. >>THAT IS INTERESTING TO HEAR FROM ANOTHER AL FRANKEN ACCUSER. TWO YEARS AGO I WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING, BUT IT’S CLEAR TO ME I MUST HAVE BEEN DOING SOMETHING. AS I’VE SAID BEFORE, I FEEL TERRIBLE THAT ANYONE CAME AWAY FROM AN INTERACTION WITH ME FEELING BAAED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT IS A FANTASTIC ARTICLE, I RECOMMEND IT TO EVERYBODY. IT IS THE COVER OF NEW YORK MAGAZINE. >>>LOTS OF NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. “NEW DAY” CONTINUES RIGHT NOW. >>PRESIDENT TRUMP PRESSED AUS RAIL YA’S PRIME MINISTER TO HELP ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR WITH HIS INVESTIGATION INTO THE RUSSIA PROBE. >>BARR SHOULD BE TALKING TO AUSTRALIA TO FIND OUT IF THEIR INTELLIGENCE SERVICES WORKED WITH OUR INTELLIGENCE SERVICES IMPROPERLY TO OPEN A COUNTER INTELLIGENCE INVESTIGATION OF TRUMP’S CAMPAIGN. >>HE IS CLEARLY ENCOURAGING THE AUSTRALIANS TO COOPERATE WITH ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR. >>GIULIANI IS STILL CENTRAL TO THIS PUSH. >>THEY’RE SILENCING ME BECAUSE I SHOWED UP AN ACCUSER WHO’S WILLING TO STAND UP AND POINT THE FINGER AT JOE BIDEN. >>I WOULD EXPECT FOR MR. GIULIANI TO UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS. I WOULD HOPE THAT HE WOULD ACCOUNT IN A COOPERATIVE MANNER Z WE WANT TO WELCOME OUR VIEWERS IN THE UNITED STATES AND ALL AROUND THE WORLD. THIS IS “NEW DAY.” WE BEGIN WITH SEVERAL MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS IN THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION INTO PRESIDENT TRUMP, STARTING WITH RUDY GIULIANI. THE PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY HAS BEEN SUBPOENAED TO TURN OVER ALL DOCUMENTS RELATED TO HIS ADMITTED ROLE IN PRESSURING THE UKRAINIANS TO DIG UP DIRT ON JOE BIDEN. IT REMAINS UNCLEAR WHETHER GIULIANI WILL COMPLY. CNN HAS LEARNED THAT SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO WAS ACTUALLY ON THAT JULY 25th PHONE CALL WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP REPEATEDLY PUSHED THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT. THAT COULD TRIGGER A NEW SUBPOENA FOR POMPEO’S TESTIMONY. AND A SOURCE TELLS CNN THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP RECENTLY PRESSURED AUSTRALIA’S PRIME MINISTER TO HELP ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL BARR WITH HIS INVESTIGATION OF THE ORIGINS OF THE MUELLER RUSSIA PROBE. >>WHILE THAT’S GOING ON, THE PRESIDENT CONTINUES TO DECLARE THAT HE WILL TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER’S IDENTITY DESPITE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT PERSON’S SAFETY. AND NOW WHEN I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENT, THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY INSPECTOR GENERAL, A TRUMP APPOINTEE IS DEBUNKING CLAIMS BY THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES THAT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER LACKED FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE CONDUCT OUTLINED IN THE REPORT. THE INTEL COMMUNITY’S INSPECTOR GENERAL IS SCHEDULED TO TESTIFY ON FRIDAY, WHICH CAPS A VERY BUSY WEEK AHEAD IN THIS IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.>>JOINING US NOW CNN POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT ABBY PHILLIP AND CNN POLITICAL DIRECTOR DAVID SHINE. GREAT TO HAVE BOTH OF YOU. FOR A CONGRESS KNOWN AS DO NOTHING, THEY HAVE CERTAINLY SHIFTED INTO A HIGHER GEAR IN TERMS OF — THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON RECESS, AND ALL OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE JUST COME OUT, ALL OF THE PEOPLE THEY’RE CALLING, THE RECORDS THEY’RE SUBPOENAING, I MEAN, THIS IS QUITE A WEEK.>>YEAH, I THINK WHILE MOST OF THE CONGRESS IS OUT, IT WAS MADE CLEAR BY ADAM SCHIFF THAT HIS INTENTION COMMITTEE WAS GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS AND NOT LOSE ANY OF THE MOMENTUM THAT THEY HAD IN ALL

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