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>>>”KICK THEM WHEN THEY’RE UP, KICK THEM WHEN THEY’RE DOWN.” YOU REMEMBER. PRESIDENT TRUMP’S IMPEACHMENT SEEMS INCREASINGLY LIKELY SETTING UP A TRIAL IN THE S SENATE. HOW REPUBLICANS SITTING AS JURORS SITTING WITH THEIR RESPONSIBILITY MIGHT DEPEND ON THE PARTY’S LEADERSHIP, BUT I’M NOT REFERRING TO MITCH McCONNELL, I’M RESPONDING TO THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA WHERE CRACKS HAVE APPEARED IN THE PRESIDENT’S FIRE WALL. IN THE LAST 30 YEARS, FOX NEWS, TALK RADIO, AND THE DRUDGE REPORT. THIS IS THE GLOOM WHERE THE BASE GETS IT’S GUIDANCE AND IT’S MARCHING ORDERS AND THE INFLUENCE IN CLOSED PRIMARY STATES. THAT IS WHY IT IS SIGNIFICANT. IF BOTH FOX NEWS AND THE DRUDGE REPORT THERE HAVE BEEN SIGNS OF DISCONTENT WITH THE PRESIDENT. TRUMP’S PRESIDENCY, WHILE THAT WAS WELCOMED WITH ENCOURAGING LED LINES LIKE THESE. NOW THEY TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY, AND THEN TRUMP ROCKS THE HOUSE, FIVE MINUTE OVATION. THINGS HAVE REPRESENTATIVELY CHANGED. NOW IS TRANSCRIPT RELEASED. REPUBLICAN CRACKS EMERGED. 51% WANT TRUMP REMOVED, AND FEAR, WHISTLE-BLOWER ASKED TO TESTIFY IN WRITING THIS MORNING. THE FRONT PAGE, SHEPHERD SMITH LEAVING. PRESIDENT CELEBRATES. DRUDGE BECAME THE GO-TO SOURCE FOR CONSERVATIVES IN THE LAST AMERICAN IMPEACHMENT PROCESS TRUMPETING EVERY NEGATIVE COMMENT FOR PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON. IN 1998, IT WAS DRUDGE THAT RELEASED THAT THEY KALED THE WHITE HOUSE INTIER STRATEGY. AND JAUNITA BROADERIC WHO AUSED PRESIDENT CLINTON OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.>>WHAT IS GOING ON WITH DRUDGE. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF CLICKS? FOR THIS COMPLAINT TO EXIST THERE HAD TO HAVE BEEN A PERCEPTION THAT DRUDGE WAS ALL IN ON THE TRUMP CANDIDACY. AND THE PRESIDENCY.>>SO IS DRUDGE DOING IT BECAUSE HE SOURS ON TRUMP OR HE IS SENSING A CHANGE IN HIS FOLLOWSHIP. THIS COMES AT A TIME WHEN THE PRESIDENT IS WARRING WITH CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF FOX NEWS. ON THURSDAY, AFTER 51% REPORTEDLY SUPPORTED IMPEACHMENT. BUT FOX NEWS IS ALSO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN IT USED TO BE IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS. AND THAT NIGHT AT THE RALLY IN MINNEAPOLIS HE WAS QUICK TO SINGLE UP FOR PRAISE HOSTS WHO HE STILL ENJOYS.>>AINSLEY, STEVE, AND BRIAN HAS GOTTEN BETTER, RIGHT? BRIAN WAS A SEVEN AND HE IS GETTING CLOSE TO TENTER TIRE. TUCKER HAS BEEN VERY GOOD, AND THE LEGENDARY SEAN HANNITY. AND LAURA INGRAM WHO IS NOT GOING TO — AND YOU GO OVER MARIA BARTAROMA. THE GREAT LOU DOBBS.>>AND SHEPHERD SMITH QUIT FOX NEWS YESTERDAY AND HE WAS NOT ON THE NICE LIST. DRUDGE AND FOX, SO FAR NO SIGN OF WAIVERING ON A.M. TALK RADIO, BUT THE IMPACT OF ANY WEAKEN WILLING IMPACT THE BASE WHICH, IN TEURN THEY WILL POSSIBLY WAN TO HEAR ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT. K PRESIDENT TRUMP WIN REELECTION WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA? JOINING ME NOW IS TRACEY SEPPLE, KNOWN AS THE DRUDGE WHISPERER. HOW TO GET DRUDGE COVERAGE, AND BRIAN ROSENWALL. AUTHOR OF T”TALK RADIO’S AMERICA.”>>IT IS ESSENTIAL, MIKE, IF HE LOSES IT, HE IS DONE. HE HAS A HUGE PROBLEM AND THEY’RE THE SIGNAL. WHEN HE REALLY HAS A PROBLEM.>>WHAT MOTIVATES MATT DRUDGE? CLICKS OR IDEOLOGY?>>CLICKS AND HIS OWN SENSE OF HUMOR. BUT AS IT RELATES TO THIS TOPIC WITH TRUMP AND IMPEACHMENT, THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT HIS TONE HAS SHIFTED AND IN SOME WAYS IT IS BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHAT SIDE HIS BREAD IS BUTTERED ON. HE KNOWS HE IS DRIVING THE CLICKS AND HE HAS THAT INCREDIBLE INFLUENCE. HE IS STILL LOTS OF PEOPLE’S OHM PAGES. HE WAS ALWAYS MOTIVATED BY THE BEST STORY, THE MOST CLICKABLE STORY. THAT IS SOMETHING TO GRAPPLE WITH.>>TAKE US IN THE EXCHANGES THAT YOU HAD WITH HIM. WHAT WAS IT LIKE TO TRY TO WORK HIM. HOW SUCCESSFUL WERE YOU. SHARE SOME INSIEKT, HE IS SUCH A MAN OF MYSTERY.>>THE MYSTERY IS A BIG PART OF HIS APPEAL. I HAVE TO SAY WHEN I WAS WORKING MOST CLOSELY WITH HIM. TWITTER WAS JUST A GLEAM IN SOMEONE’S EYE, AND THE RAPID RESPONSE WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CAMPAIGN AT THAT TIME. WE’RE TALKING ABOUT A DECK SAID AGO, TRUMP IS KEENLY AWARE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE MEDIA WORLD. HE WOULD ROUTINELY RECEIVE STORIES BEFORE THEY WERE PU PUBL PUBLISHED. TRANSCRIPTS OF SHOWS BEFORE THEY WERE AIRED. HE IS VERY WIRED IN WITH MEDIA NEWS ROOMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND WHAT THAT MEANT IN TERMS OF MY WORK WITH HIM IS WE COULD TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS COMING. I WAS IN A POSITION TO SHARE THINGS. HE WAS IN A POSITION TO FRAME THEM IN CERTAIN WAYS ON HIS SITE. IT WAS FASCINATING TO WORK WITH THEM. MANY PEOPLE WOULD SAY HE IS THE ENEMY, BUT IT WAS MORE NUANCED THAN THAT. EXPER CERTAINLY THERE WAS NO GUARANTEES, HE DID THINGS THAT WERE POSITIVE AND HELPFUL FOR HILLARY CLINTON BACK IN THE DAY. AND THAT WASN’T TO SAY THAT HE COULD NOT IN THE NEXT MOMENT TURN AND DO SOMETHING MEANT TO BE EMBARRASSING OR SILLY OR NEGATIVE TOWARD HER, THERE WAS NOT A GUARANTEE, HE WAS NOT AN IDEOLOG. HE CAN SEE THE WAY THE WIND IS BLOWING, HE IS A CAPITALIST, DRIVEN BY CLICKS, MAKING HIS EMPIRE BUILT ON A SIMPLE WEBSITE THAT HAS NOT CHANGED IN MANY YEARS AND THE CLICKS ARE THE CURRENCY FOR MATT DRUDGE.>>YOU GOT A Ph.d STUDYING TALK RADIO. WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN IN THE WORLD OF A.M. TALK?>>THE FOX HOSTS THAT THE PRESIDENT PRAISED THERE, AND WHO HE WAS RETWEETING, SEAN HANNITY, AND HANNITY IS ALL IN, AND RUSH LIMIT BECAUSE SAID LOOK, IF THE REPUBLICANS REMOVE HIM, IT IS THE END OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, SAID 90% OF THE REPUBLICANS ARE ON BOARD AND HE CAN’T DO THIS AND HE TALKS ABOUT DEMOCRATIC LIES, HOW THEY’RE OUT TO GET HIM, AND HE IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE AND AS LONG AS HIS AUDIENCE IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE, NEITHER IS HE. THEY ARE TWO OF THE KEY PILLARS. THEY ARE STILL FULLY ON BOARD.>>WELL AND YOU HEARD MY COMMENTS AT THE OUTSET WHERE I SAW THE LEADERSHIP STEMS MORE FROM THE AIR WAVES THAN IT DOES FROM MITCH McCONNELL OR THE WHITE HOUSE. IF YOU’RE CORRECT, AND I’M SURE YOU ARE, THOSE ARE FIGHTING WORD THAT’S HE IS LAYING DOWN A MARKER WITH SENATE REPUBLICANS. >>ABSOLUTELY YES. SENATE REPUBLICANS WILL UNDERSTAND, AND THEY’RE MAKING IT CLEAR IF YOU DO YOU THIS, THIS IS WAR, YOU’RE DECLARING WASH ON US AND WE’RE WE WILL TAKE YOUR BASE AWAY AND YOUR NEXT PRIMARY IS BEING TAKEN AWAY.>>QUICK FINAL QUESTION. WHERE YOU DO SEE A CHANGE IN DRUDGE RECENTLY, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHT WHAT WOULD HAVE PRECIPITATED IT?>>WELL, HE IS IMMORTAL LIKE THE REST OF US, I DO BELIEVE HE FOLLOWS THE RHYTHMS AND HE SEES THE POLLS AND THE WAY THE COUNTRY IS RESPONDING OVER THE THREE WEEKS WITH THE IMPEEPMENT DISCUSSIONS AND PROCEEDINGS. HE IS FOLLOWING THAT. HE IS ALSO A PERFORMANCE ARTIST AND HE KNOWS THE WAY HE FRAMES THINGS, HIS COLOR OF FONTS AND WHAT NOT ALL CHANGES THE DISCUSSION. I’M GLAK THAT WE’RE RECOGNIZING THE TRIUMPHANT MAY NOT INCLUDE HIM ANY MORE.>>THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? TWEET ME AT SMERCONISH. I WILL READ SOME RESPONSES THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE PROGRAM. THEY ARE IGNORANT RUBES THAT BLENDLY BELIEVE EVERYTHING FOX NEWS SAYS IS INSULTING.>>THE 30 YEAR RISE OF THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA HAS PROVIDED THE DIRECTION THAT MADE POSSIBLE TRUMP’S ELECTION ME IN 2016. BRIAN ROSENWALL’S BOOK LAYS IT ALL OUT. THERE IS NO INSINUATION HERE THAT THOSE THAT LISTEN TO FOX NEWS AND LISTEN TO TALK RADIO ARE RUBES. THAT IS YOUR WORD, NOT MINE. PEOPLE WANTED TO ELECT IN 2016 SOMEONE THAT REMINDED THEM OF TH THEIR FAVORITE TALK RADIO HOST. ANSWER TODAY’S SURVEY QUESTION. CAN PRESIDENT TRUMP WIN REELECTION WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA? UP AHEAD, THE DEMOCRATS THINK THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP SHOULD BE IMPEACHED BECAUSE HE TRIED TO GET A FOREIGN COUNTRY TO DIG UP DIRT ON A POLITICAL RIVAL. HAVE THERE BEEN CASES WHERE THEY COULD BE JUSTIFIED IN DOING JUST THAT. WHY IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL NOW TRAVELING ALL OVER THE WORLD TO INVESTIGATE THE ORIGINS OF THE RUSSIAN PROBE. HE IS TRYING TO PROVE A COUNTER NARRATIVE. MIGH>>>AMONG THE REASONS PUT FORWARD TO IMPEACH TRUMP IS THAT HE ASKED A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO INVESTIGATE A POLITICAL ROOIVAL JOE BIDEN, BUT IS THERE EVER AN EXAMPLE WHERE A PRESIDENT IS JUSTIFIED TO DO SO. AND IF HE TRULY BELIEVED A CRIME WAS COMMITTED IS HE IN THE WRONG TO PURSUE IT? JOINING US NOW IS A PROFESSOR AT OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY’S LOOT WHERE HE DIRECTS THE ELECTION LAW PROGRAM. HE CLERKED FOR SUPREME COURT JUSTICE HARRY BLACKMAN AND WROTE THIS PIECE IN POLITICO. IS IT EVER OKAY FOR A PRESIDENT TO ASK A FOREIGN COUNTRY TO INVESTIGATE A POLITICAL RIVAL. I WANT TO DRILL DOWN ON THE SPECIFIC LEGAL ISSUE THAT COULD CONFRONT THE SENATE. I WOULD POINT OUT THAT SECTION FOUR SAYS THIS. THE PRESIDENT, THE PRESIDENT, AND ALL CIVIL OFFICERS SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE ON IMPEACHMENT FOR, TREASON, AND BRIBERY FOR HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS. I DIRECT THEM TO THIS. THE SUBJECTS OF THEIR JURISDICTION ARE THOSE OFFENSES THAT PROCEED FROM THE MISCONDUCT OF PUBLIC MEN AND PUBLIC TRUST, AND YOU WROTE THIS. IN ORDER TO PROVE TRUMP APPROVED HIS PRESIDENTIAL POWERS TO THE POINT THAT HE NO LONGER CAN BE TRUSTED IN EXERCISING THEM, THE CONSTITUTIONAL STANDARD FOR IMPEACHMENT, CONGRESS MUST ESTABLISH TRUMP’S INTENT IN MAKING THE REQUEST. IT WAS DONE IN GOOD FAITH WITH U.S. FOREIGN OR DMI DOMESTIC IN MIND. CAN HE CONVINCE THE SENATE THAT HE WAS ACTING IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE UNITED STATES, HE WAS WORRIED CORRUPTION IN UKRAINE. MIGHT THAT LEAD TO HIS COMMON RATION?>>I THINK IT WOULD.>>MIGHT THERE BE HIS TEST DEFENSE TO OWN THIS, I WAS SO WORRIED THAT U.S. TAX DOLLARS WOULD BE SQUANDERED IN A CORRUPT ENGAGEMENT.>>THE OPPOSITE OF GOOD FAITH IS BAD FAITH. IT DEFEND ONS WHAT SENATORS BELIEVE WAS HIS MOTIVE. HE CAN TRY TO MAKE THE GOOD FAITH DEFENSE, BUT IF THEY THINK OTHER THAN HE LOSES THAT ARGUMENT.>>DOES THAT REQUIRE A SENATOR TO GET ON HIS HEAD?>>IT DOES, I DON’T THINK YOU CAN MAKE THE JUDGEMENT BASED ON THE PHONE CALL ITSELF. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT BEHIND THE PHONE CALL AND DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT YOU BUY IT OR DON’T BUY IT.>>IS THERE ANY HISTORICAL PRECEDENT THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN TURN TO FOR SUPPORT?>>YES, THERE IS. THERE ARE TWO EXAMPLES. ONE OLD AND ONE MORE RECENT. THE OLD ONE INVOLVED AARON BURR. HE WORKED WITH BRITAIN TO TRY TO TAKE TERRITORY AWAY FROM THE UNITED STATES. SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN JUSTIFIED FOR HIM TO ASK WHAT AARON BURR WAS UP TO TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HE WAS UP TO. THE NEWER EXAMPLE IS RICHARD NIXON RUNNING FOR THE PRESIDENCY. JOHNSON WASN’T A CANDIDATE BY OCTOBER, BUT HE WANT TODAY BE A CANDIDATE. AND HE HEARD THAT NIXON WAS INTERFERING WITH PEACE TALKS IN SOUTH VIETNAM. SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE FOR PRESIDENT JOHNSON TO ASK SOUTH VIETNAM WHAT NIXON WAS DOING TO PROTECT AMERICA.>>I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT I THINK IS SUCH A COGENT LEGAL ANALYSIS FROM YOU THAT I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM ANYONE ELSE, NOW I WANT TO ASK YOU A POLITICAL QUESTION. AS I UNDERSTAND YOUR EXPLANATION, THIS IS FOR JOE BIDEN BECAUSE IT ALMOST GUARANTEES A LITIGATION OF THE PRESIDENT’S UNDERLYING ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HUNTER, AM I MISREADING THIS?>>NO, THAT IS CORRECT. I DON’T THINK THERE IS ANY WAY TO MAKE A JUDGMENT ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP’S MOTIVE WITHOUT ASKING WHAT WERE THE FACTS REGARDING JOE BIDEN AND HUNTER BIDEN AND IF PRESIDENT TRUMP INFORMS GOOD FAITH OR BAD FAITH IN THE INVESTIGATION.>>SO FOLLOWING THE GOOINS THAT COMES OUT OF THIS ISSUE ANALYSIS WILL TO PROBABLY BE TO SAY YES, I HELD UP THE MONEY, I WAS JUSTIFIED IN DOING SO. I WAS ACTING IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE UNITED STATES AND THEN TRY TO CONVINCE THE JURORS AND THE SENATORS OF THAT.>>YES, I THINK THAT IS RIGHT, THAT IS THE ANALYSIS. NEITHER OF US ARE BUYING INTO THE ARGUMENT, BUT WE’RE SAYING THIS IS THE ISSUE.>>CORRECT, I DON’T HAVE ANY OTHER EVIDENCE ABOUT THE MERITS OF THE CLAIM ABOUT JOE BIDEN, AND IF THEY GOAT IT, THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT PRESIDENT TRUMP’S MOTIVE. I’M JUST IDENTIFIES THE RELEVANT ISSUES.>>THAT WAS EXCELLENT, THANK YOU, PROFESSOR. .>>THANK YOU.>>WILLIAM BAR CERTAINLY OVERSEEING THE RUSSIAN INVESTIGATION. THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO PROVE — >>I WAS INVESTIGATED. I WAS, ME, AND MY CAMPAIGN, I WAS INVESTIGATED AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN BY THE U.K., THEY THINK IT COULD HAVE BEEN BY AUSTRALIA. THEY THINK IT COULD HAVE>>>TORN GENERAL BILL BARR IS INVESTIGATING THE RUSSIAN PROBE. THE SHORT VERSION OF WHAT WE LEARNED WAS THIS. ONE NIGHT A TRUMP CAMPAIGN FOREIGN POLICY ADVISOR AFTER A NIGHT OF DRINKING IN LONDON TELLS AN AUSTRALIAN DIPLOMAT THE RUSSIANS HAVE DIRT ON HILLARY CLINTON. IT DOESN’T REGISTER UNTIL THE WIKILEAKS DUMP LATER. THEY CALL THE AMERICANS. AN INVESTIGATION GETS LAUNCHED AND A TRUMP CAMPAIGN, FOREIGN POLICY ADVISOR WITH RUSSIA. IT DEPOSITS A DEEP STATE CONSPIRACY. DOES THAT STORY HAVE ANY MERIT? JOINING ME NOW TO DRILL DOWN ON THIS IS THE NEW YORK TIMES PULITZER PRIZE WINNER. MARK, WHY ROME? WHY ACCORDING TO YOUR REPORTING HAS BILL BARR BEEN TWICE IN ROAM IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS?>>HE IS TRACKING DOWN ONE ASPECT OF THIS CONSPIRACY WHICH IS THAT GEORGE POAPADOPULOUS HA MEETINGS, AND HE WAS PROVIDED WITH INSIGHT INTO WHAT THE RUSSIANth MIGHT BE UP TO WITH REGARD TO THE E-MAILS. THE COUNTER NARRATIVE IS THAT THAT IS NOT THE TRUTH. THE TRUTH IS THAT THEY WERE PUT UP TO THIS BY WESTERN INTELLIGENCE, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, AND IT WAS LIKE AN ELABORATE ENTRAPMENT CAMPAIGN. THIS IS A CONSPIRACY THAT AS THE PRESIDENT SAID, POTENTIALLY MULTIPLE FOREIGN ALLIES AND BARR AND HIS TOP PROSECUTOR JOHN DURHAM ARE PURSUING THIS COUNTER NARRATIVE.>>DO THOSE THAT ARE PURSUING TO THE COUNTER NARRATIVE DISBELIEVE THE RUSSIAN ATTACK. THE RUSSIAN MEDDLING OR THE HACKING OF OUR ELECTION? OR DO THEY THINK THAT BOTH ARE TRUE? THE RUSSIANS MEDDLED, BUT THE DEEP STATE USED THAT AS A MEANS OF ACCESS TO INVESTIGATE, SURVEIL, PEOPLE AROUND HIM. >>YOU CAN BELIEVE BOTH. YOU CAN SAY THEY DID IN FACT LAUNCH AND CARRY OUT THIS SABATAGE CAMPAIGN. AND THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ENOUGH ABOUT HIS TIES TO RUSSIA AND THE ASPECT OF A TRUMP PRESIDENCY TO LAUNCH THIS SPYING CAMPAIGN, BUT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT HAS EMERGED TO SUPPORT THIS COUNTER NARRATIVE. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO ALSO PUT THIS IN CON DEX ABOUT THE PRESIDENT. THE REASON WHY THIS PHONE CALL WITH THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT IN JULY SO ALARMED THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER WAS NOT JUST THAT HE WAS ASKING THE PRESIDENT TO HELP RUDY JUDGIULIANI, IT WAS TO BACK AND LOOK AT 2016. TO BARR HAS A PARALLEL INVESTIGATION ON INVOLVING ITALY, AUSTRALIA, THE U.K., AND IT IS NOT GETTING AS MUCH ATTENTION, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS THE ARM OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.>>AND JOHN DURHAM AND HIS DAY TODAY RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT OPINION SOMEONE THAT YOU HAVE COVERED IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CIA INVESTIGATIONS.>>HE WAS BROUGHT IN IN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TO EXAMINE THE INTERROGATION PROGRAM. HE HAS A HISTORY OF GOING AFTER MOB CASES. HE HAS BEEN PART OF THE CAMPAIGN FOR A LONG TIME AND HE IS CERTAINLY SEEN AS A STRAIGHT SHOOTER. THE STRANGE THING ABOUT THIS WHOLE INVESTIGATION IS THAT YOU HAVE THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OVERSEEING IT AND SHE ASKING THE PRESIDENT TO BROKER MEETINGS WITH FOREIGN ALLIES TO HELP SET UP THESE MEETINGS OVERSEAS. AND OF COURSE THE PTHD IS AT THE U CENTER OF THIS AND THERE IS A PERCEPTION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST.>>A QUICK FINAL POINT, IF I MAY, I WANT TO PUT THIS ON PEOPLE’S RA DOLLAR SCREENS. WHEN THE NATION IS FURTHER ENTRENCHED IN THE IMPEACHMENT CONVERSATION, A REPORT FROM JOHN DURHAM MIGHT DROP.>>IT IS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE. IT CERTAINLY SEEMS TO BE A DLEB RATE PROSECUTOR. IT COULD TAKE MONTHS. IT COULD COME OUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS THING, AND WHAT HE FINDS COULD HAVE A REAL IMPACT ON THE PRESIDENT’S POLITICAL FORTUNES.>>THANK YOU FOR A GREAT REPORT.>>THANK YOU.>>I WANT TO SEE IT, I WANT TO SEE THE MUELLER REPORT, I BELIEVE IN THE LEGITIMACY OF THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION. I WANT TO SEE WHAT DURHAM COMES UP WITH WITH BILL BARR. I WANT YOU TO ANSWER THE SURVEY QUESTION AT SMERCONISH.COM TODAY. STILL TO COME, WHY DID THIS SEATING ARRANGEMENT AT AN NFL GAME LAST WEEKEND CAUSE TWITTER>>>LAST WEEKEND ELLEN DE GENERIS WENT TO DALLAS BECAUSE SHE SAT IN THE BOX OF COWBOYS OWNER JERRY JONES NEXT TO FORMER PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH AND FORMER FIRST LADY LAURA BUSH. HERE IS SOME OF THE TWEETS. ONE PHOTO SHOPPED HITLER NEXT TO HER. ONE SAID THIS IS WHAT CLASS S SOLIDARITY LOOKS LIKE, AS PRESIDENT BUSH OPPOSED GAY MARRIAGE, GOT US INTO THE WARS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN, SO SOME WANTED DE GENERIS WHO FAMOUSLY CAME OUT IN 1997 AND IS MARRIED TO PORTIA DE ROSSE. HERE IS WHAT ELLEN SAID IN HER SHOW. WHY IS A GAY HOLLYWOOD LIBERAL SITTING NEXT TO A CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT. ELLEN AND GEORGE BUSH TOGETHER MAKES ME HAVE FAITH IN AMERICA AGAIN. EXACTLY. HERE IS THE THING, I’M FRIENDS WITH GEORGE BUSH, I’M FRIENDS WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON’T SHARE THE SAME BELIEFS THAT I HAVE. I THINK IT IS OKAY THAT WE’RE ALL DIFFERENT. WHEN I SAY BE KIND TO ONE ANOTHER, I DON’T MEAN ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT THINK THE SAME WAY YOU DO, I MEAN BE KIND TO EVERYONE. IT DOESN’T MATTER.>>AMEN TO THAT. SHE GOT A LOT OF SUPPORT, BUT FOR SOME PEOPLE ON TWITTER IT JUST INFLAMED THE SITUATION. ACTOR MARK RUFFALO SAID UNTIL HE IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE CRIMES AND THE WAR, AND THEY TALK ABOUT SWHO BEST DRESSED OR WHAT BEST MAYO IS. I COMMEND ELLEN FOR STANDING UP TO THE TWITTER MOB. WHO AMONG US DO NOT HAVE SOMEONE IN OUR FAMILY OR SOCIAL ORBIT FOR WHO WE DISAGREE WITH POLITICALLY. FOR THOSE THAT DON’T, I ARGUE IT IS THEIR LACK OF INTEGRATION. PEOPLE WHO ARE DIFFERENT, THAT IS A LARGE PART OF OUR PROBLEM. TIME FOR ELLEN’S CRITICS TO DO WHAT SHE JUST DID AND THAT IS “GET OUT OF YOUR BUBBLE.” STILL TO COME, NANCY PELOSI IS TRYING TO KEEP THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY NARROWLY FOCUSED. AS OTHER>>>SO DOES NANCY PELOSI NEED TO RETHINK HER SCOPE OF THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. SHE HAS PRESSURED THE PRESIDENT TO INVESTIGATE JOE AND HUNTER BIDEN. THE PUBLIC HAS ALREADY SEEN SOME EVIDENCE RELEASED BY THE WHITE HOUSE ITSELF. JUST IN THE LAST 24 HOURS THE PRESIDENT LOST HIS APPEAL FOR THE SUBPOENA OF HIS TAX DOCUMENTS. TWO OF RUDY’S OTHER CLIENTS WERE ARRESTED. THE FORMER AMBASSADOR TO UKRAINE SAID SHE WAS REMOVED BY PEOPLE WITH CLEARLY QUESTIONABLE MOTIVES, AND JOGIULIANI IS UNDE INVESTIGATION FOR BREAKING LOBBYING LAWS. WILL PELOSI BE ABLE TO KEEP THIS FOCUSED ON UKRAINE? AND SHOULD SHE? RACHAEL, DO YOU THINK THIS WILL, IN THE END, BE A DECISION MADE BY MODERATES IN THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS?>>GOOD MORNING, MICHAEL. THAT IS CERTAINLY A CROWD IN A PELOSI IS TAKING A TEMPERATURE WITH RIGHT NOW. WHEN SHE DECIDED TO BACK THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY THREE WEEKS AGO. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT COME FROM TRUMP DISTRICTS THAT COULD SEE POTENTIAL BLOW BACK FROM AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. AND THAT IS THE REASON THAT PELOSI HAD BEEN HOLDING BACK ON IMPEACHMENT THE HOLD TIME. SHE HAS BEEN WORRIED ABOUT THE BLOW BACK FOR THESE MEMBERS THAT MAKE UP THE MAJORITY. IF WE’RE GOING TO IMPEACHMENT PRESIDENT, LET’S FOCUS ON UKRAINE AND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROVE AND REPUBLICANS CAN’T ACCUSE US OF HAVING A BIG WITCH HUNT AGAINST THE PRESIDENT AND WE CAN MINIMIZE ANY POLITICAL DAMAGE. PELOSI FOR NOW IS STICKING TO THAT STRATEGY. THERE WAS A CALL YESTERDAY WHERE SHE TALKED TO MEMBERS OF HER DISTRICTS AND SOME PEOPLE ARE PUSHING FOR HER TO EXPAND BEYOND UKRAINE TO LOOK AT AS TRUMP PRESSURED OTHER COUNTRIES TO TRY TO DO THE SAME THING, TRY TO MAKE FOREIGN POLICY PROMISES TO GET THEM TO INVESTIGATE A POLITICAL RIVAL, BUT PELOSI SAYS FOR NOW LET’S STICK TO WHAT WE KNOW, WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE EVIDENCE OF AND THAT WERE FOR NOW, IS UKRAINE.>>>I WOULD THINK THE TIMING WILL BECOME ANOTHER CONSIDERATION BECAUSE TIME MARCHES ON NOW THE 2020 CYCLE IS UPON US AND IF THE FOCUS IS EXPANDED, NO DOUBT THAT WILL DELAY HOW LONG THIS PROCESS WILL TAKE TO RUN IT’S COURSE.>>YEAH, SO TIME AND POLITICS ARE THE TWO SORT OF FACTORS COMPLICATING THESE DECISIONS, I THINK. PELOSI WHEN SHE DECIDED THEY WERE GOING TO DO THIS SHE WANTED TO HAVE IT DONE BY THE HOLIDAYS. MOVE QUICKLY AND SWIFTLY AND USE THE MOMENTUM WE’RE SEEING RIGHT NOW WITH THE MEDIA AND THE VOTERS AROUND THE COUNTRY AND GET IT DONE SO WE CAN PIVOT BACK TO ISSUES. PELOSI ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT IMPEACHMENT WOULD NOT RESONATE WITH VOTERS, SO TO KEEP HER MAJORITY SHE THINKS THEY NAME TO FOCUS ON 2020, THAT WAS THE THINKING BEHIND MOVING QUICKLY. AND THEY ARE QUESTIONING WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS THE SMARTEST STRATEGY. I WAS TALKING TO DAN FPFEIFFER WHO HAS A PODCAST AND HE IS SAYING THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE DEMOCRATS TOOK THE MICROPHONE FROM THE PRESIDENT. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY’RE REALLY ON THE OFFENSIVE AGAINST THE WHITE HOUSE. TRUMP, THERE HAS BEEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF SCANDALS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS AND NONE HAVE REALLY TOUCHED THE PRESIDENT. IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS ALONE THEY HAVE SEEN A SEISMIC SHIFT. NOW A MAJORITY OF VOTERS AND SOME INDEPENDENTS ARE STARTS TO SUPPORTING THEM. IF YOU CAN TURN UP DAMAGING INFORMATION ON THE PRESIDENT, WHY TOM NOW IF YOU CAN KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING.>>A QUICK FINAL QUESTION, IF YOU MAY, DO YOU EXPECT A VOTE ANY TIME SOON ON THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY IN IS A REPUBLICAN AND WHITE HOUSE CRITICISM OF THE PROCESS NOW UNDER WAY.>>MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT DIDN’T COME UP ON THE CAUCUS CALL THEY HAD. THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE TALKING POINT. THE REPUBLICANS PRIVATELY ADMITTED TO ME THEY DON’T HAVE A LOT OF SUBSTANCE THEY CAN PUSH BACK ON RIGHT NOW SINCE THE PRESIDENT IS ADMITTING WHAT HAPPENED WITH UKRAINE. THEY LATCHED ON TO PROCESS IF FOR NOW REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING THIS ISN’T HAPPENING. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING PELOSI THINKS IF THEY HAVE THIS VOTE THEY’RE GIVING INTO A VOTE. THE ONLY THING THEY THINK COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE THAT CALCULUS IS IF A FEDERAL JUDGE SAYS THEY ACTUALLY NEED TO HAVE THIS VOTE TO GET CERTAIN DOCUMENTS. YOU KNOW THAT DEMOCRATS RIGHT NOW ARE FIGHTING IN THE COURTS TO UPHOLD SUBPOENAS AND THEY’RE ARGUING THEY’RE ALREADY IN AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, BUT THEY’RE SAYING IF YOU NEED A VOTE TO MAKE THIS OFFICIAL, I THINK THEY WILL DO>>>STILL TO COME, YOUR BEST AND WORST FACEBOOK TWEETS AND COMMENTS. WE’LL GIVE YOU THE FINAL RESULTS OF THE SURVEY QUESTION. YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO GO VOTE RIGHT NOW. CAN PRESIDENT TRUMP WIN RE-ELECTION WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF CONSERVATIVE ME>>>TIME TO SEE HOW YOU RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY QUESTION AT SMERCONISH.COM. CAN PRESIDENT TRUMP WIN RE-ELECTION WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF CONSERVATIVE MEDIA? SURVEY SAYS — 90% NO OF 9,555 VOTES CAST. THAT IS THE CORRECT ANSWER. HERE’S SOME OF WHAT ELSE YOU THOUGHT DURING THE COURSE OF TODAY’S PROGRAM. WHAT HAVE WE GOT? DO YOU THINK THERE IS ANYTHING THAT WOULD MAKE HANNITY AND/OR LIMBAUGH LEAVE TRUMP? THAT’S A REAL EASY FOR ME TO RESPOND TO. NO. WHAT’S NEXT? HIT ME WITH ANOTHER ONE. THEY ARE THE GUYS ON FIFTH AVENUE THAT HE WAS SPEAKING WITH. REAL DONALD TRUMP KEEP NORMALIZING THIS INSANITY. CAN THE SENATE FIND THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS SINCERELY CONCERNED ABOUT CORRUPTION? GROW UP. TO YOU MEAN FIND? I’M SO GLAD WE HAVE PROFESSOR FOLEY ON THE PROGRAM TODAY, A CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR FROM OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY. AS AN ATTORNEY I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THESE EVENTS UNFOLD. YOU KNOW WHAT THE SKCONSTITUTIO SAYS RELATIVE TO IMPEACHMENT, TREASON, BRIBERY, OTHER HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS. YOU GO TO THE FEDERALIST PAPERS TO FIND OUT WHAT’S A HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANOR? IT MEANS ABUSED HIS OFFICE. BEYOND THAT, WHAT HE POINTS OUT IS THAT THIS BECOMES VERY MUCH DEPENDENT UPON THE PRESIDENT’S INTENT. THERE IS A DEFENSE. THE PRESIDENT REALLY HASN’T OFFERED IT BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HASN’T OWNED THE IDEA THAT, YES, HE HELD UP THE UKRAINE’S MONEY BECAUSE HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT CORRUPTION. IF HE WERE TO PURSUE THAT AND CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT HE ACTED IN THE NATION’S BEST INTERESTS, NOT IN HIS PERSONAL BEST INTEREST, THAT COULD BE A DEFENSE BUT HE’S YET TO SEIZE IT. THAT’S WHAT WE DO HERE. WE SORT OF PURSUE ACADEMICALLY THE WAYS OF LOOKING AT WHAT’S UNFOLDING. I REMEMBER PEOPLE WERE REALLY UPSET WHEN I DID LIKEWISE ON OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE AND THE MUELLER REPORT. LET’S SEE, HOW COULD THIS BE ARGUED. I’M SURE THERE’S A LOT OF BLOWBACK COMING MY WAY FOR HAVING EXPLORED IT BUT I THINK IT WAS A WORTHY EXERCISE. JOIN ME FOR MY AMERICAN LIFE IN COLUMNS TOUR. I WILL NEXT BE IN NORMAN, OKLAHOMA, SUNDAY

Stephen Childs

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  1. Contradiction: if Pelosi thinks impeachment may not resonate well with voters…, how can the criminal cartel be ousted by impeachment, especially with CONSTANT stonewalling obstructions by the executive?
    INSTEAD OF A DITHERING IMPEACHMENT PROCESS, FORGET THE TIME SPAN AND THE POLITICS AND CONDUCT A VERY THOROUGH INVESTIGATION, WHICH MIGHT EVENTUALLY ENRICH THE JURISPRUDENCE!!

  2. ONCE AGAIN TRUMP IS HEADING FOR ANOTHER BANKRUPTCY… ITS CALLED
    IMPEACHMENT OF HIS PRESIDENCY… ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. This UkraineGate did not start in July or May of 2019 this is a concerted effort that started in mid 2018. A concerted effort to circumvent normal State Department channels so that they can buy off Ukraine officials to get fake dirt on Biden and stuff their pockets with $$$$$$.

  4. Its obvious that Smercornish is a Trump supporter, it's so hard to listen to him pretending to be neutral. πŸ™ƒ

  5. Trash. If you want to see Putin be our next president then put in Trump in 2020 if he's not in federal prison or removed from office forbidden to run for another office.

    Why did Shep Smith just quit Fox after a very long career and very successful? Listen to videos or read reports about what he said not being able to stand all of the BS he needed to report about Trump. He literally couldn't take it one more minute. It's simply ignorant to talk about Trump in any favorable way at this point.
    Being president has to do with accomplishing great things for your country and protecting the citizens. The only thing Trump has managed to accomplish is to prove his focus is on himself and how little he knows about how the government works and how little he knows about American and world history.

    I can't listen to these jackasses. Believe me, if they reported the news in an objective way meaning that they used the Constitution as the measuring stick, it would be very clear that there is never at time when soliciting a foreign country to help a president Advance his personal political career is anything less then an impeachable event and also a federal crime. When you begin to put spin on everything you need to rethink that you are no longer delivering the news. That is called propaganda and has no place in an honest world.

  6. Sara sanders knows this are coming she smart she move before CONFRONT this controversy with the media ….but you know WHAT??she is in the same boat like Giuliani now she is scarred….sorry for her

    Kellyanne πŸ€£πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈπŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ That evil women she already have a spot separated waiting for her too, inmates are waiting . Republicans are Turning over the Fed each ones to clean his hands…

  7. ….Und don't forget Herr Goebbels or Tokyo Rose or Lord Haw-Haw….. Sie Lieben den KKKlown

  8. trump will not be reelected: his lies alone will prevent that, his policies are designed to benefit putin, his attitude towards the armed forces is poor at best when you consider the monies for his wall has come from military budgets, his wall is a total folly, his attitude towards the Kurd's is appalling, his bumbling of almost everything that a good president tries to do is virtually nonexistent, it goes on and on and on none of what he is doing is for the American people.

  9. Listen Greedy Blood Sucker…….too many ads crammed into your uploads.

  10. Bag man Barr is chasing his shadow around the world looking to did up dirt and conspiracies for Treasonous Trump and no one objects to his corruption. Why? The whole works should be impeached. Corrupt to the core and married to the mob.

  11. Smerconish is almost as gullible as treasonous Trump's delusional cult. Like most so called conservatives they further the right wing propaganda and conspiracies despite there being ZERO proof of any of it.

  12. If that happened which I can't see that would be wrong but that is being checked out by Barr. He should probably have other people do it but nonetheless what does that have to do with Trump asking both Ukraine and China to investigate Hunter Biden and there is and will not be any evidence that Joe Biden had anything to do with Hunter's business efforts. I would say that Ivanka getting patents from China while her Dad was in China would be more problematic. Plus Trump is lying about what Hunter made in China. He keeps saying he made 1.5 billion dollars. The goal was to get accounts and then they Hunter and his partners would get 10% fee. It wasn't successful and at this point Hunter may have lost money on that adventure.

  13. There will also need to be determined what exactly is "that US national interest" that Trump would be defending by using unorthodox channels to press the Ukrainian president to investigate Biden and his son.

  14. WTF is a Smercornish ??? Is that a new strain of the syphis or aids ?? Makes good fact if that syphilis infected pig is a host on CNN.

  15. THE BIDEN administration has already been investigated and debunked .. just stop.

  16. the problem with bush is, he was never held accountable for torturing, torture is not a disagreement

  17. Barr's trip around the world is telling other countries that the POTUS and his DOJ have no confidence in the US intelligence agencies….

  18. Ilhan Omar video evidence
    https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1182801660676050945

  19. Bill Barr went to Rome to ask to the big guys of the House of Grimaldi like the Jesuit operative he is, for their permit to do some crazy shit that soon will be on tv, now come on… the Stablishment saw this Trump puppet of the House of Grimaldi and counting all the countries in their grip you can find Russia and some other big player in world politics.

  20. FoxNews is a conservative propaganda media with low fact check standing. Fake news, biased news with little credible source's.
    Trump rallies are now golden globe awards ceremony? What is Trumps policies moving forward for the American people the kitchen table concerns that American people are concerned about in their future concerns?

  21. The republican party has nothing to offer the American people that really concerns them at the kitchen table conversation, so their only agenda is target minorities and illegal immigrants with illegal building of a wall and consternation camp's.
    Trumps birthday present to Putin is pulling military personnel out of Syria resulting in the extermination of our allies the Kurds just to appease his base, 300 thousand Kurds dead now.
    Trump wants to sanction Turkey now, um their response would remove Trumps name off their hotels.

  22. Trump's sticking with GIULIANI because Gowdy Refused to work with Trump as his lawyer! πŸ€­πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ₯‚!

  23. 🀯 Duuuhnald chump 🀯 πŸ˜…πŸ˜…πŸ˜…πŸ˜…πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

  24. If the so called deep state had wanted to stop trump before the election they could have yet didn’t.

  25. I'm sorry to say that Edward Foley is just dead wrong with his reasoning about "debatable motives". Both language and acting of a person, in relation to others, constitute concrete context. That's nothing new for FBI: they are facing funny efforts of debating "motives" AGAINST obvious criminal context everyday. And they just prove actual context to prepare judgement. It's certainly NOT just about some secret inner world of "motives", which you could seriously argue about back and forth, for example in senate.
    If a friend says "I know where your children go to school", that's something completely else, than if a Mafioso fearing testimony says so. And every judge with a rest of brain available will be able to recognise and evaluate the difference due to real world context, not just pondering all kinds of possible inner "motives" of a sentence. The more context of speech and deeds available, the more clarity you have.
    So motives are nothing but a subcategory of defining real world context. In this case we already now have PLENTY of that context, of an all too obvious massive misuse of governement power against constitutional rules, headed by a president and his henchmen, trying to INTRODUCE their own kind of corruption, while REPLACING existing anti-corruption expertise, and REPLACING competent experienced personal, on behalf of criminals under arrest meanwhile. Add that to asking for "a favour THOUGH" in direct sentence context with holding back granted aid. Against this background, with more power abusing context showing up every day, it will be a breeze to impeach this president and his goverment partners in crime, for by then (and already by now) all too obvious reasons.
    If then the senate will pay the price not to impeach, despite proven context, their Republican majority will have to explain that to voters in 2020. I'm very much looking forward to that! :-)))

  26. Republicans, and Conservative media our in the pocket of 45. They will do what they want him to do. He knows they have no place to go. None of us want them or their supporters.

  27. Poor Pathetic Fake News CNN , the Worst "News" channel , with ratings far lower than Trump , has another BS Opinion …….. Who Cares ? Your Credibility is Shot ! Ha Haa !

  28. Now America has an Army for Hire . What has happened to America ? The Mafia is now running a Country that they never paid a penny Tax to build

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