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City Council – October 29, 2019 – Part 2 of 2


» SGOT PLANS CHANGE AND CHANGE
AND CHANGE AND CHANGE ALL OVER AGAIN, BUT THEY BECOME FAR LESS
EVIDENCE-BASED AND FAR MORE EXPENSIVE AND SERVE FEWER PEOPLE
WHO WE ARE ENTRUSTED TO SERVE. IN FACT, THIS PLAN WOULD SPEND PER NEW RIDER
$618,000 PER RIDER. YOU COULD ESSENTIALLY PURCHASE A
SMALL CONDO AND A CAR FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE NEW RIDERS. IT IS
JUST AN ABSURD USE OF THE VERY FEW DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE TO
INVEST IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PRIORITIES.
MOTHER OVER, I SEE A LOT OF EXCITING POTENTIAL IN THE
ONTARIO LINE. I LIKE THAT IT EXTENDS FURTHER NORTH THAN THE
PHASE 1 OF THE RELIEF LINE PARTNERSHIP WELCOME DOUG FORD AS
A RECENT CONVERT TO LIGHT RAIL AS A USE TO PROVIDE TRANSIT
SERVICE TO PEOPLE THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. IT IS REMARKABLE THOUGH
ISN’T IT THAT HE USED TO SAY SUBWAY, SUBWAY NOTHING AND ALL
OF A SUDDEN HE’S INTO METRO PROJECTS. WE DON’T KNOW THE
DETAILS. » JUST SOME BASIC DETAILS ABOUT
IT. I’D WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I THINK IT’S
REASONABLE TO ASK SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS BEFORE PUTTING OUR
FEDERAL DOLLARS TOWARDS IT. IN FACT I MOVED A MOTION — I WANT TO KNOW THAT WE’RE NOT
GOING TO BURY COMMON SENSE IN THE GROUND WE BURY A LINE THAT
WAS MEANT TO BE AT GRADE. AND I WANT TO KNOW THAT WE’RE GOING TO
USE EVERY TRANSIT DOLLAR WISELY TO SERVE AS MANY PEOPLE AS
POSSIBLE IN THE COMING YEARS. AND I ALSO DON’T THINK THAT
UPLOADING SHOULD BE A BARGAINING CHIP AT THE TABLE. YOU EITHER
DO IT OR DON’T BASED ON GOOD PUBLIC POLICY NOT AS AN EXCHANGE
TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT DOUG FORD HAS.
» THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MATLOW. » THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.
I’D JUST LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THEY’VE DONE ON
THIS TRANSIT FILE AND OF COURSE CONGRATULATE THE MAYOR FOR ALL
THE WORK HE’S DONE. WHAT YOU’RE LOOKING AT IS THE LARGEST URBAN
TRANSIT FUNDING PACKAGE IN CANADIAN HISTORY. AND THIS IS A
COMMITMENT TO BUILD HIGH LEVEL TRANSIT IN CANADA’S LARGEST CITY
THAT THE PEOPLE OF TORONTO HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR FOR GENERATION.
PEOPLE USING TRANSIT TODAY, AND I AM A TRANSIT USER, AT THE END
OF THE DAY THEY DON’T REALLY CARE WHO HAS BUILT THE LINE.
WHAT THEY’RE LOOKING FOR IT’S RELIABLE, SAFE AND AFFORDABLE
TRANSIT. THIS PACKAGE MAY NOT BE PERFECT BUT IT COMES PRETTY
CLOSE. IT IS WHAT TORONTONIANS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR, IT GETS
PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS, TO THEIR PLACE OF WORK, TO THEIR
HOMES AND TO THEIR EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS. WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT THERE’S NO MORE POLITICIZATION, WE ADOPT WHAT’S
BEFORE US TODAY. THERE’S STILL WORK TO DO AND SEEING A MASTER
PLAN IN THE FUTURE. THERE WILL BE BUMPS ALONG THE WAY. IT’S EXCELLENT FOR THE PROVINCE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. » THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR COLLE. » I HAVE A MOTION MADAM
SPEAKER. I HAVE MOTION. IS IT UP THERE?
» WELL, DID YOU GIVE IT TO STAFF?
» YES. » DO WE HAVE IT? DO WE HAVE
THE MOTION. ? NO, WE DON’T.
» [AWAY FROM MIC]. » ANTHONY, YOU WANT TO SECOND
THAT? » WELL, COUNCILLOR COLLE, YOU
HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THE STAFF. » I DID, BUT THERE’S BEEN A
MISCOMMUNICATION. » [AWAY FROM MIC]. » ACCORDING TO STAFF THEY DO
NOT HAVE YOUR MOTION, COUNCILLOR COLLE.
» PUT MY NAME DOWN LOWER. » TAKE YOUR NAME OFF. » ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A
MOTION WITHOUT NOTICE NOT ON THIS ITEM. IT’S AN AMENDMENT TO
THE ITEM. » COUNCILLOR LAYTON, ARE YOU
READY? » THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I’VE GOT
A COUPLE OF MOTION, MOTION A THAT CITY COUNCIL ADD THE
FOLLOWING BETWEEN CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL. AND SUBJECT
TO ALL TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PRIORITIZING INN
CLUE NEAR ZONING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, TO THE
SATISFACTION OF THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE
CHIEF PLANNER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY PLANNING.
TO — AND SO THAT THE RECOMMENDATION NOW READS AS
FOLLOWS: IT’S UP THERE ON THE SCREEN. TORONTO TRANSIT COMMISSION TO
ENSURE THERE WILL BE ENOUGH BUSSES AVAILABLE SHOULD THE
SCARBOROUGH FAIL EARL YEAR THAN THE COMPLETION DATE AND THIS
DOES NOT IMPACT OTHER SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE TORONTO TRANSIT
COMMISSION, D, THAT CITY COUNCIL REQUEST THE CHIEF FINANCIAL
OFFICER AND TREASURER IN CONSULTATION WITH THE GENERAL
MANAGER TTC [INAUDIBLE] TO CHARACTERIZE THIS PROPOSAL AS AN ACTUAL PLAN
TO BUILD TORONTO WOULD BE OVERLY GENEROUS. WHAT WE HAVE INSTEAD IN FRONT OF
US IS A HALF BAKED DRAWING BASED ON NOTHING MORE THAN SOME
CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE METROLINX AND THE TTC. THEY’VE
TAKEN SOME OF THE WORK THAT THE TTC HAVE DONE AN HOW CAN WE SHOE
HORN OR IDEA OF PUBLIC TRANSIT INTO IT. WE’RE AT TOO PRELIMINARY A STAGE
TO HAVE A GOOD GRASP OF WHAT THIS WILL COST. WE DON’T KNOW
AT THE END OF THE DAY HOW IT’S GOING TO INTEGRATE INTO OUR
EXISTING SYSTEM. WE DON’T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE STATIONS ARE
GOING TO BE FOR ONE OF THE LINES. SOME OF THE VERY BASIC THINGS
THAT MAKE TRANSIT PLANNING POSSIBLE WE HAVE NO IDEA. WE
HEARD JUST IN THE FINAL QUESTION OF THIS DEBATE FROM COUNCILOR
PERKS THAT ONCE WE VOTE YES, THEY CAN COME BACK WITH A
RADICALLY DIFFERENT PLAN AND WE WON’T HAVE ANY SAY ABOUT IT. SO
LET’S KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN THIS THING ACTUALLY ALL SHAKES
LOOSE. WHAT WE DO KNOW, HOWEVER, IS THAT IF YOU LIVE IN
SCARBOROUGH, YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER DELAY. YOU KNOW, IT STRIKES ME THAT
WE’VE NOW MATCHED THE NUMBER OF TRANSIT PLANS UNDER OUR CURRENT
ADMINISTRATION AS WE DID UNDER MAYOR FORD’S ADMINISTRATION, IT
WAS THREE PLANS THERE, THREE PLANS NOW. WE WENT FROM 3, 4
ERA PLANS NOT ALL DECIDED BY HIM, TO TO TORY ERA PLANS AND
NOW A MIX OF THE TWO. THE COMMITMENT WE MAKE BECAUSE OF THESE LONG-TERM
VISIONS IS SUCH A CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT PART OF IT. AS
ELECTIONS CHANGE LEADERSHIP, AS PEOPLE NOW THINK THAT THEY’RE
CUTTING A NEW DEAL, THIS IS WHAT IS TAKING US DOWN THIS PLAN OF
EMPTY PROMISES. BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, I
DON’T FAULT THE MAYOR, I DON’T FAULT OUR TTC LEADERSHIP, I
DON’T FAULT OUR CITY MANAGER, WE WERE BUT IN THIS POLICE STATION
BY ANOTHER LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT. WE WERE PUT IN THIS PLACE — IN
THIS PLACE BY PREMIERE FORD DECIDING TO ONCE AGAIN TURN THE CITY OF TORONTO UPSIDE
DOWN, PENCILS DOWN EVERYONE, NO MORE PLANNING THE PROJECTS THAT
WE HAD UNDER THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, IT’S TIME TO
MOVE AHEAD WITH THE NEW PLAN. IF WE KEEP GOING LIKE THIS,
NOTHING WILL EVER GET BUILT. I’M LIMITED THOUGH IN MY CHOICES
BECAUSE IT’S EITHER YOU SUPPORT THIS HALF BAKED PLAN AND THEN
SEE NEXT PLAN THAT’S JUST AROUND THE CORNER NO DOUBT, IF WE KEEP
IT THIS PACE, OR WE GET LOCKED INTO A WAR WITH THE PROVINCE AND
SEE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING GET DONE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. I HAVE
NO DOUBT WE’RE GOING TO BE HAVING THIS SAME DEBATE NO
MATTER WHAT WE END UP SUPPORTING.
» THANK YOU. » AT THIS COUNCIL.
» THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. COUNCILLOR BRADFORD, 3 MINUTES.
» THANKS VERY MUCH. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. ARE YOU
FAMILIAR WITH THE RECENT PROVINCIAL CHANGES TO THE
LEGISLATION GROWTH PLAN IN BILL 108 THAT LIMIT THE PER MISSIONS
AROUND INCLUSIONARY ZONING TO MTSA MAJOR TRANSIT STATION
AREAS. » YES, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THEY ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THEM. I HAVE NO FAITH THAT THIS
PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING THEY SAY.
» FAIR ENOUGH. SO I’M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THAT’S
THE REGULATIONS THAT EXIST ON THE BOOKS TODAY. BEYOND —
BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL MTSAs AND THEY’RE REQUIRED — THAT’S WHERE
INCLUSIONARY ZONING WILL BE USED. IT’S A SHAME WE SHOULD BE
USING IT ELSEWHERE, BUT RIGHT NOW IT’S JUST AROUND MTSAs WHERE
THESE ARE GOING TO BE MTSAs, HOW DOES YOUR MOTION, I GUESS WHAT
ABOVE AND BEYOND IS YOUR MOTION TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE?
» WHAT MY MOTION IS TRYING TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF,
OUR PROFESSIONAL PLANNERS ARE MAKING DECISIONS ON THIS. AND NOT THE PROVINCE, NO THE
PREMIERE AND NOT THE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS. BECAUSE YOU
KNOW WHAT THEY DID TO THE LAST PLAN WE SENT THEM, THEY TORE IT
UP, THEY TORE UP OUR DOWNTOWN PLAN, TURNED IT ON ITS HEAD AND
TOOK AWAY ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT OUR STAFF DID. I WOULD
MUCH PREFER THAT THIS PLAN IS CONTINUAL AND OUR CHIEF PLANNER
BEING SATISFIED THAT WE’RE GETTING THE LEVEL OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING — » COULD WE PUT THE MOTION —
I’M SORRY. » YEP.
» I WAS TRYING TO PARSE THROUGH IT. CAN WE GET IT ON THE
SCREEN? » I DON’T HAVE A COPY ANY MORE.
» YEAH,- » DID YOU JUST RIP IT?
» I JUST TORE IT UP. I WAS HOLDING THE MOTION YOU WERE
ASKING ME A QUESTION SCOMBLFRJ LIKE ACTUALLY A PROBLEM WITH THE
GROWTH PLAN CHANGES. » CAN WE PUT THE MOTION ON THE
— » [MULTIPLE SPEAKERS].
» IT’S MOTION 3 — SORRY MOTION 2, MOTION 1 AND 2 ARE
ESSENTIALLY — ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME EXCEPT ONE MAKES IT —
THE FIRST ONE MAKES IT — » THIS ONE —
» CONDITION. » IT’S THE OTHER ONE.
» [MULTIPLE SPEAKERS]. » THE LANGUAGE IS THE SAME BUT
THE FIRST ONE MAKES A CONDITION. » RIGHT. SO I WAS JUST — I’M
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THEY’RE ALREADY CONTEMPLATING THAT ONLY
GOING TO TAKE PLACE AT MTSAs AND THAT’S A PROBLEM, SEPARATE
EITHER WE’LL PART THAT, WHAT IS YOUR CONTEMPLATION ABOVE AND
BEYOND THAT? » SO BUT I’M JUST NOT CONFIDENT,
COUNCILLOR, THAT THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT WILL DO WHAT THEY SAY
THEY’RE GOING TO DO. SO I’D PREFER TO TAKE THE ONLY LEVERAGE
WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND THAT’S US SIGNING THIS AGREEMENT SAYING
OUR CHIEF PLANNER NEEDS TO BE SATISFIED WITH WHAT THE PROVINCE
IS ALLOWING US TO DO WITH RESPECT TO BOTH WHAT GOOD
PLANNING IS AND FOR INCLUSIONARY ZONING ON THOSE SITES. BECAUSE
RIGHT NOW CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG, THAT
THE MINISTRY COULD EITHER NOT APPROVE OUR PLAN FOR
INCLUSIONARY ZONING AROUND TRANSIT HUBS, THEY COULD ALSO
DECIDE ON THEIR OWN TO APPROVE SOMETHING ALTOGETHER DIFFERENT
THROUGH A MUNICIPAL ZONING ORDINANCE.
» THANK YOU. » SO I’D ASK YOU WHAT’S THE
HARM IN US ENSURING THAT OUR CHIEF PLANNER IS SATISFIED WITH
THE LEVEL OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AROUND THESE SITES?
» THANK YOU. » I SEE ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUE
WITH THAT. » THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR LAYTON.
COUNCILLOR PERKS. 3 MINUTES CLARIFICATION.
» THANK YOU. A POINT OF CLARIFICATION
FOLLOWING ON THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU JUST HAD WITH COUNCILLOR
BRADFORD. THE DECISION WE’RE MAKING TODAY SAYS THAT ACCORDING TO THE TERM
— WE ARE APPROVING THE TERM SHEET.
» YES. » YES. ARE YOU AWARE THAT ITEM
6D IN THE TERM SHEET SAYS THAT THEY WILL PURSUE TRANSIT
ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SMART TRACK, GO AND PROVINCIAL
PROJECTS WHICH WILL ADVANCE BOTH THE CREATION AND CAPTURE OF
VALUE TO OFFSET PROVINCIAL CAPITAL COSTS.
» CERTAINLY DOESN’T SOUND LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ONE OF
THEIR PRIORITIES. » SO GIVEN THAT WHAT WE’RE
BEING ASKED TO DO TODAY IS CAPTURING VALUE IS ACTUALLY THE
GOAL AROUND TRANSIT STATIONS, DO YOU THINK IT’S NECESSARY THAT WE
APPROVE YOUR MOTION TO REMIND THE PROVINCE THAT INCLUSIONARY
ZONING IS OUR PRIORITY, NOT THEM CAPTURING VALUE BY GETTING
HIGHEST AND BEST USE? » I THINK IT’S PROBABLY SAFE TO
ASSUME THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS GOING TO BE DOWN THEIR LIST
OF PRIORITIES WHEN THEY’RE TRYING TO CAPTURE VALUE TO PAY
FOR THESE — THESE SUBWAY STATIONS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT
ACTUALLY GET BUILT AT THE END OF THE DAY.
» THANK YOU. » THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR HOLYDAY. 3 MINUTES
CLARIFICATION. » THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I
JUST WANTED TO CONTINUE ON THE QUESTIONING FROM COUNCILLOR
BRADFORD. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND MECHANICS OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED.
IF I COULD ASK THAT THE MOTION GO BACK UP ON THE SCREEN JUST TO
HELP US HERE. I’VE GOT A COPY. BUT IT SAYS THAT NUMBER 3
BASICALLY SAYS THAT COUNCIL ENDORSED THE REALLOCATION OF
FEDERAL FUNDING UNDER THE PROGRAM SUBJECT TO A BUNCH OF
THINGS. AND SUBJECT TO ENTERING THE PRELIMINARY AGREEMENT,
THAT’S — WOULD POSSIBLY BE AN OUTCOME OF THIS COUNCIL DECISION
IN ANTICIPATING OF THE REALIZATION OF THE CITY’S
PROJECT INSPECTION EXPECTATIONS AND SUBJECT TO ALL TRANSIT
ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PRIORITIZING INCLUSIONARY
ZONING. IT GOES ON TO SAY BASICALLY A DECISION POINT IS
WITH OUR STAFF. MY QUESTION IS: AT WHAT POINT IN TIME ON A CALENDAR WOULD COUNCIL THEN
ENDORSE THE PROGRAM? THIS CASE OUR STAFF HAVE TO AGREE TO A
BUNCH OF CONDITIONS AROUND THESE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THESE SITES.
AND WAY THAT I’M SEEING THIS IS WE’VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL
DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL TO SAY MAKE SURE FIT WITH GOOD CITY
PLANNING. SO HOW IS THIS GOING TO FUNCTION?
» WELL, I SUSPECT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE PROPOSAL IS GOING
TO COME FROM, OR THE ONCE THEY HAVE THE LOCATIONS OF WHERE THE
STATIONS ARE GOING TO BE BECAUSE WE DON’T KNOW THAT YET, OR
BEFORE THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME PRINCIPLES OF
DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN AROUND THESE STATIONS. AND I
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT INCLUSIONARY ZONING IS ONE OF
THEM, THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS IN THE MIX IN ANY TRANSIT
ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. BECAUSE AGAIN, AS WAS POINTED OUT BY THE
PREVIOUS QUESTION THAT DOESN’T SEEM TO BE THEIR PRIORITY IN
THIS CASE. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT’S NOT THE MINISTER OF
MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS OR THE PREMIERE SAYING WE CAN SAY NO TO
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OR IT CAN HAVE THIS SMALL AMOUNT INSTEAD,
I WOULD PREFER OUR CHIEF PLANNER GIVING — GIVING HIS BEST ADVICE
TO ENSURE THAT HE’S SATISFIED THAT THE AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING IS REFLECTIVE OF THE CITY’S NEED AND POLICY TO ENSURE
THAT WE HAVE AFFORDABLE — » SO THIS IS A VERY, VERY
DETAILED OF ALL OUR STAFF, THIS IS DEEP ANALYSIS ESPECIALLY
AROUND THE PRINCIPLES OF GOOD CITY PLANNING AND SATISFACTION
OF SOME STAFF MEMBERS. SO THIS IS A CHICKEN AND EGG QUESTION TO
YOU HOW ON EARTH COULD WE DO THIS LEVEL — THIS DETAILED
LEVEL OF ANALYSIS AND STILL REALIZE THAT AT THE OUTSET OF
THE PROJECT, CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO COMMIT TO THE FUNDING IN
ORDER TO GET THE BALL ROLLING ON THE WHOLE THING OR WE DON’T HAVE
A PROJECT. SO WHAT’S THE INTENT, THE INTENT TO KILL THE
PROJECT. » COUNCILLOR, WE’RE ABOUT TO
VOTE ON SOMETHING WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INFORMATION ABOUT.
HOW IS ASKING OUR CITY STAFF, OUR EXPERT CITY STAFF TO GIVE
THEIR OPINION WHEN THESE PLANS START TO COME THROUGH AND GIVE
THIS APPROVAL ABOUT SOME SIMPLE PRINCIPLE ABOUT INCLUSIONARY
ZONING WHICH WE’VE BEEN STUDYING FOR YEARS. YOU THINK THE
PROBLEM IS OUR CITY STAFF NOT HAVING ENOUGH INFORMATION.
WE’RE ABOUT TO APPROVE A $30 BILLION TRANSIT PROJECT.
» OKAY, COUNCILLOR HOLYDAY THAT WAS YOUR LAST QUESTION.
THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR FLETCHER TO SPEAK. COUNCILLOR FLETCHER. .
» [MULTIPLE SPEAKERS]. » I ALSO HAVE A LITTLE VIDEO
I’M GOING TO PLAY LATER SO I’D REALLY LIKE THE IT GUYS TO COME
DOWN AND ABLE TO HELP ME WHEN I GET TO THAT TIME IN MY SPEECH
THAT’S ONE BASICALLY LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE BRIDGES INCLUDING
THE ONE THAT HAS TO COME DOWN FOR THE GARDINER. TWO MORE
TRACKS THERE’S ANOTHER MOTION THERE. I THINK THAT HAS TO BE OUR
STANDARD FOR SAFETY. AND THERE’S ALSO THE PORTALS WILL BE
GOING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF RIVERDALE PLAZA WHICH IS A MAJOR
TRANSIT STATION. AND SO WE NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE IMPACT
FINANCIALLY WOULD BE FOR THAT. FOR REDEVELOPMENT THERE AND
MEETING THOSE TARGETS. SO THOSE ARE THE 3 MOTIONS. FIRST OF ALL
ON THIS YOU KNOW I’M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ONTARIO LINE BUT
THANK THE MAYOR FOR ADVANCING SOME MOTIONS THAT CAME FROM MY
COMMUNITY LAST WEEK. ABOUT 25 PEOPLE CAME. THEY SPOKE, I
THINK THEY’VE SENT IN ABOUT 280 LETTERS ABOUT THE SITUATION OF
THIS ABOVE GROUND LINE FOR 2 KILOMETERS THROUGH THEIR
BACKYARDS TAKING OUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, PEOPLE FROM
THE SISTERS OF ST. JOSEPH THE IMPACT ON THOSE TENANTS, THE
IMPACT ON GREEN SPACE AND PARKS AND THE FACT THAT TRAINS WOULD
BE GOING EVERY 45 SECONDS. THERE ARE 3 TRACKS ALREADY, GO
HAS 3 TRACKS, THEY NEED A FOURTH FOR RER SMART TRACK. AND THEY
ALSO — THIS LINE STILL HAS VIA ON IT AND FREIGHT TRAINS ON IT.
TWO MORE GOING ON WOULD ADD UP TO 6 TRAINS, 45 SECONDS EACH FOR
THE ONTARIO LINE, AND ABOUT 2 AND A HALF MINUTES EACH FOR GO. SO I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THE
ONTARIO LINE WILL BE RUNNING UNDER THE SAME ROADS, THE SAME
SEWERS AND HAVE SAME PROBLEMS THAT WE FOUND IN THE TRANSIT
ASSESSMENT THAT WAS DONE FOR THE RELIEF LINE. WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF YEARS
LOOKING AT HOW TO RUN AN UNDERGROUND LINE ON OUR ROADS
WITH THE AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE.
AND TO REMIND YOU THAT TWO SECTIONS WILL HAVE BRAND NEW
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS AND I WOULD ASSUME THE CITY WOULD BE
THERE, I WOULD ASSUME MANY CITIZENS WILL BE THERE. AND I’M
HOPING THAT METROLINX DOES NOT STAND A A LOT OF FROM
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS OPINION THE SECTION IN WARD 14
WILL BE AMENDED. THEY’RE GOING TO USE THE WORK THAT WAS ALREADY
DONE BY THE TTC STAFF, BY OUR TRANSIT PLANNING STAFF FOR PARTS
OF THAT NEW ZONE IN THE CENTRAL AND THEN THEY’RE GOING TO AMEND
IT BY RUNNING THIS LINE ABOVE GROUND. AND I DO THANK THE
MAYOR FOR ADDING A QUESTION MARK TO CAN WE LOOK AT RUNNING THAT
BELOW GROUND, CAN WE ENCLOSE THAT? WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE
IMPACTS ON THIS COMMUNITY. WHICH WILL BE VERY, VERY SEVERE. AND I’VE BEEN THROUGH A RELIEF
LINE ASSESSMENT, IT WAS A LINE ON MAP, GUESS WHAT WE HAD TO
LOOK AT A NUMBER OF OPTIONS FINALLY SOMETHING WAS CHOSEN AND
WE HAD TO SEE HOW IT COULD BE BUILT AND WHAT’S THIS. THIS IS
JUST A LINE ON THE MAP, THE ONTARIO LINE IS JUST A LINE ON
THE MAP. AND WHEN YOU GET UP TO THE NORTH PART AND YOU — HOW DO
YOU CROSS THAT DON VALLEY, IT’S VERY WIDE, WHERE DOES IT COME
OUT? EVERYBODY’S A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT THAT. SO ALL OF
THESE BIG ISSUES FOR COMMUNITIES REALLY, REALLY NEED TO BE LOOKED
AT VERY CAREFUL. I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR STAFF, TTC STAFF,
TRANSIT PLANNING STAFF FROM PLANNING FOR THE WORK THAT THEY
DID ON THE RELIEF LINE FOR THE YEARS OF THEIR LIFE THAT THEY
PUT FOR WORKING WITH COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT THEY DID. THAT’S
A STANDARD THAT SHOULD BE MET BY METROLINX, THAT’S A STANDARD I
KNOW, THAT’S THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT I’M EXPECTING WHEN
METROLINX COMES AND DOES THEIR AMENDMENT OR DOES THEIR OTHER
TWO NEW ONES THROUGH YOUR WORK COUNCILLOR — WORD COUNCILLOR
CRESSY. WHILE IT LOOKS GREAT ON THE MAP, IT’S ONLY ON THE MAP.
I DO HAVE A LITTLE VIDEO HERE THAT I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THE
TRAIN. THERE’S NOWHERE ELSE IN THIS
STAY THAT HAS 6 RAIL LINES RUNNING THAT CLOSE TO
RESIDENTIAL AND THAT CLOSE TO A ROAD.
» THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FLETCHER.
» THERE IT IS. COUNCILLOR COLLE.
» YES, THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I HAVE A MOTION. PUT
IT UP ON THE BOARD, THAT CITY COUNCIL DIRECT THE CITY
MANAGER TO REQUEST THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO TO DEFER ITS PLANNED
UPZONING IN THE YONGE EGLINGTON AREA INTO THE ONTARIO LINE IS
COMPLETED, TWO THE CITY COUNSEL — [READING] JUST I GUESS THE SORT OF SILVER
LINING HERE IS THAT THIS IS THE ONLY FORUM WHERE THIS 30 PLUS
BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT WILL BE DEBATED.
IT WON’T BE DEBATED FOR ONE MINUTE AT QUEENS PARK, AT OTTAWA
THEY DON’T EVEN CONSIDER IT WORTH TALKING ABOUT TRANSIT, YET
THEY’RE GETTING MONEY. SO AT LEAST HERE THERE’S PUBLIC DEBATE
ABOUT THIS VERY IMPORTANT INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE OF
TORONTO. SO THAT’S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF HAVING A CITY
COUNCIL. ALSO THE IRONIC THING IN ALL THIS THE
SHOWCASE LINE SOME PEOPLE CALL IT THE VANITY LINE IS THE
ONTARIO LINE. YOU KNOW AND IT’S ALMOST A REPEAT OF WHAT BILL
DAVIS DID WHEN HE FORCED THE CITY TO TAKE ON THE SRT, WHICH
WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE ANSWER TO ALL THE TRANSIT ISSUES ACROSS NORTH AMERICA AND
THE CITY GLADLY INSTALLED THE SRT AND THE POOR PEOPLE OF
SCARBOROUGH SUFFERED EVER SINCE WITH THAT SYSTEM THAT’S BEEN
AINFLICTING THE PEOPLE OF SCARBOROUGH. SO THERE’S NOTHING
HERE THAT’S GOING TO SOLVE THESE MAJOR TRANSIT ISSUES, BUT AT
LEAST I CAN SAY IT’S AN ATTEMPT. A VERY IMPROVED ATTEMPT FROM
WHAT IT WAS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHERE WE WERE TOLD TAKE IT OR
LEAVE IT, THIS IS WHAT YOU’RE GETTING, SHUT UP AND ACCEPT THE
GOOD GRACES OF THE G RUS UP AT GREENS PARK. AT LEAST THERE’S
BEEN A POSITIVE TURN AND THEY’VE ACTUALLY SAT DOWN WITH OUR
OFFICIALS AS WE’RE TOLD AND THEY’VE COME UP WITH A
MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE AGAIN, ACCORDING TO — SO THAT’S BEEN
AN IMPROVEMENT DRAMATIC IMPROVEMENT. AS YOU KNOW
THERE’S A BIG CHANGE AT QUEENS PARK THEY’VE BACKTRACKED ON
ALMOST EVERYTHING FROM NUTS TO NOODLES. SO ANYWAYS, SO THIS IS
A CONTINUING PATTERN OF SAYING THEY’VE MADE MISTAKES AND ADMIT
THE MISTAKES. SO THANK GOD FOR THAT. AND THEN THE IRONIC THING
ABOUT ALL THIS IS THAT THIS IS NOT THE ONTARIO LINE IS NOT A
SUBWAY. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SUBWAY, SUBWAY, SUBWAY AS
SOMEONE SAID, IT’S A MONORAIL ELEVATED SYSTEM FOR THE MOST
PART-RUNNING WITH SECRET TECHNOLOGY THAT NOBODY KNOWS
WHAT IT IS. SO THAT WORRIES ME BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT A PRO PROJECTED DATE OF 2027 FOR
THE COMPLETION OF THE LINE IS REALLY A PIPE DREAM. SO THEREFORE, WHAT I THINK HAS
TO BE DONE LEAST I WANT TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS IN THE
YONGE CORRIDOR ESPECIALLY MY AREA YONGE AN EGLINGTON, BECAUSE
WE ARE NOT ONLY FACED WITH OVERCROWDING TODAY TRYING TO BE
MANAGED BY THE TTC, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE HIT WITH ANOTHER
HUGE OVERCROWDING ISSUE IN A COUPLE YEARS WHEN CROSS TOWN
STATION OPENS UP. AN THEN ON TOP OF IT AS YOU KNOW EARLIER
THIS YEAR WE WERE GIVEN THE GIFT OF BILL 108 WHICH TOLD US WE
WEREN’T BUILDING ENOUGH DENSITY AT YONGE AN EGLINGTON WE HAD TO
BUILD MORE. AND AS COUNCILLOR LAYTON MENTIONED THEY RIPPED UP
OUR FIVE YEAR TEMPTS TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF PLAN FOR AREA.
SO THAT’S WHY I’M BEING VERY MODEST IN MY REQUEST. I’M NOT
ASKING TO CHANGE THE AGREEMENT, WOULD NEVER DO THAT,
BUT AT LEAST I’M SAYING PLEASE AS A CITY COUNCIL LET’S STAND UP
AND SAY PLEASE DEFER THE UPZONING, THE EXTRA DENSITIES AT
YONGE AND EGLINGTON SO PEOPLE CAN OVER THE NEXT WHILE SAFELY
GET ON THE SUBWAY IN THE MORNING WITHOUT WAITING FOR FIVE SUBWAY
CARS. SO IF THEY’RE WAITING FOR FIVE SUBWAY CARS RIGHT NOW IF
THE DENSITY INCREASES AS A RESULT OF 108, IF THE EGLINGTON
CROSS TOWN IS COMPLETED, YOU KNOW, IT’S GOING TO MAKE TOKYO
LOOK LIKE — STATION, THAT’S WHAT’S GOING TO
HAPPEN. SO ALL I ASK, PLEASE GET THE CITY MANAGER SAY GIVE US
A BIT OF A BUILT OF A TIME OUT ON YOUR UPZONING, AND MAYBE GO
FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE PRINCIPLES OF THE MYTHED TOWN
AND FOCUS PLAN SO WE CAN AT LEAST WAIT FOR THIS GRAND LINE
THAT IS SOME DAY GOING TO BE COMPLETED TO RELIEVE US OF THE
CONGESTION. THAT’S ALL I’M ASKING FOR. VERY MODEST
PROPOSAL. » THANK YOU. SO COUNCILLOR
COLLE, MOTION 1 AND 2 I’LL HAVE TO RULE OUTFIT ORDER BECAUSE
COUNCIL HAS ALREADY TAKEN A POSITION ON THAT IN JULY. » [AWAY FROM MIC].
» OKAY. SO JUST MOTION 3 IS ON THE TABLE. IT CAME THROUGH — IT CAME
THROUGH IN JULY. CC — I’LL SHOW YOU A COPY OF IT
IF YOU WANT. OKAY SO 1 AND 2 IS OUT OF ORDER. DEPUTY MAYOR MINNAN-WONG. » THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I
HAVE 3 MOTIONS. THESE WERE ESSENTIALLY MOTIONS THAT WERE
MOVED AT THE TTC. COUNCILLOR ROBINSON WOULD HAVE MOVED THEM
BUT AS WE KNOW SHE CAN’T BE HERE TODAY SO I’M MOVING THEM FOR THE
COMMISSION. OKAY. AND I’LL JUST BRIEFLY SPEAK.
THE FIRST THING I’D LIKE TO SAY IS WELL I’M NOT VOTING FOR
COUNCILLOR LAYTON’S MOTION IF I HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE TWICE
AGAINST COUNCILLOR LAYTON’S MOTION TO RAISE TAXES, I’D DO
THAT. SO I WOULD ADVISE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL NOT TO VOTE FOR THE
TAX INCREASE. I APPRECIATE AND EXPECT COUNCILLOR LAYTON TO MOVE
THOSE TYPE OF MOTIONS SO HE HASN’T AS A COUNCILLOR
THAT LIKES TO RAISE TAXES HE’S TRUE TO FORM. CONGRATULATE HIM
FOR BEING TRUE TO FORM. » [AWAY FROM MIC].
» AND TO COUNCILLOR FLETCHER WHO SAID
THAT THIS IS JUST SIMPLY A LINE ON A MAP, THE DISTINGUISHING
POINT IS THE CITY’S PLAN TO BUILD — TO BUILD THE DOWNTOWN RELIEF LINE, THEY
DIDN’T EVEN HAVE A LINE ON THE RETURN — ON THE PROPOSED
TRANSIT NORTH OF THE DANFORTH. THERE WAS NOT EVEN A LINE. SO
THIS PROPOSAL, THIS PROPOSAL BUILDS RAPID TRANSIT UP THE DANFORTH
ALL THE WAY TO DON MILLS ROAD. SO — AND I’D LIKE TO
CONGRATULATE THE MAYOR FOR — I’M GOING TO GET BACK TO THAT IN
A MINUTE — AND STAFF FOR COMING UP WITH THIS ARRANGEMENT, THIS
DEAL. I THINK THAT WHEN THIS ALL STARTED NO ONE THOUGHT THAT
WE WOULD HAVE SUCH A POSITIVE DEAL, SUCH A GOOD DEAL. THE
FINANCE PIECE IS GOOD FOR THE CITY. FOR ME AS A
LOCAL COUNCILLOR THE IDEA OF AN ONTARIO LINE IS GOOD FOR MY
COMMUNITIES. IT CREATES A TRANSIT HUB AND DOES IT FAR
FASTER THAN THE CITY EVER CONTEMPLATED. THEY ACTUALLY HAD
NO IDEA WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO GET UP TO DON MILLS ROAD. THEY
HAD NO IDEA WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO BRING RAPID TRANSIT TO THE
COMMUNITY. AND QUITE FRANKLY THOSE COMMUNITIES WITH ANY HIGH
NEEDS COMMUNITY, WITH ANY MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY IT OPENS
UP THE WORLD TO THEM, IT OPENS UP THE CITY TO THEM. AND FROM
THAT POINT OF VIEW, THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL IS
REMARKABLE. AND DESERVES THIS COUNCIL’S SUPPORT. AND I HOPE EVERYONE WILL —
WELL, IT WON’T BE UNANIMOUS BUT I HOPE YOU’LL TAKE THAT IN MIND
WHEN YOU’RE CONSIDERING THE ARRANGEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN
WORKED OUT BY OUR STAFF AND THE REPORT THAT’S IN FRONT OF US
TODAY. » THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR FILION. THANK YOU I
HAVE A MOTION IN 2 PARTS. THE FIRST PART IS THAT CITY COUNCIL
DIRECT THE CITY MANAGE OTHER CONSULTATION WITH THE CHIEF
EXECUTIVE OFFICER IN THE NEGOTIATION OF THE APPLICABLE
MASTER AGREEMENT WITH THE PROVINCE AND/OR ITS AGENCY
INCLUDE REQUIREMENT THAT THE IN SERVICE DATE FOR THE ONTARIO
LINE BE PRIOR TO THE IN SERVICE DATE OF THE YONGE NORTH SUBWAY
EXTENSION AS STATED IN THE 2019 PROVINCIAL BUDGET AND THAT THE
RELATIVE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE BE PLANNED ACCORDINGLY. THE
SECOND IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER REPORT TO COUNCIL BY Q32020 ON A
FUNDING PLAN SO THAT FUNDING SOURCES WILL BE SECURED IN ORDER
THAT SUCH ENHANCEMENTS OCCUR PRIOR TO THE OPENING OF THE LINE
1 EXTENSION. SO TO DEAL WITH THE MOTION FIRST THE FIRST PART
DEALS WITH THE OVERCROWDING THAT WE’RE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH ON
THE — ON LINE 1 THAT IT IS STANDING ROOM ONLY BY NORTH YORK
STREET WHICH IS THE SECOND STOP. SO WE NEED TO JUST NOT HAVE
VAGUE ASSURANCES. WE NEED TO REQUIRE THIS AND THE AGREEMENT
THEN I HAVE WORKED WITH THE ON OTHER SIDE THE SECOND
PART REALLY DEALS WITH WHAT IS UNCOMFORTABLY BECOMING PERHAPS
LARGELY OUR RESPONSIBILITY WHICH IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE
MONEY TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS TO LINE 1 SO THAT WE COULD HANDLE
THE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY OF EXTENDING THE LINE NORTH, AND WE
KNOW THAT IS GOING TO COST US BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. I THINK WE
EXPECT THAT THE OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT WILL JOIN US IN THAT,
BUT EVEN OUR SHARE ASSUMING EVEN IF WE ONLY HAD TO COME UP
WITH A THIRD IT’S STILL GOING TO BE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. ON THE
DEAL ITSELF, IN THE LAST DEBATE I WAS ONE OF THOSE WHO SAID WE
SHOULDN’T BE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PROVINCE. AND THAT IN
FAIRNESS TO THE MAYOR AND I THANK THE MAYOR AND ALL THE
STAFF WHO ARE INVOLVED IT’S PROBABLY A GOOD THING, THAT WE
WERE THERE BECAUSE I THINK WE’RE IN A BETTER SPOT
THAN WE WERE 6 MONTHS AGO AND IN A BETTER SPOT THAN I THOUGHT WE
WOULD BE IN. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, COMPARING TO WHERE WE WERE
WE’RE IN A BETTER SPOT, THAT’S A GOOD THING. I SAID AT THE TIME I THOUGHT
THEY JUST WANTED TO CASE THE PLACE TO SEE WHAT THEY SHOULD
TAKE. AND I STILL THINK THAT STATEMENT WAS TRUE. WHAT
HAPPENED THAT I DIDN’T ANTICIPATE IS THEY CASED THE
PLACE, AND THEY DECIDED IT WASN’T WORTH TAKING, AGAIN,
DECIDED TO LEAVE US WITH IT. SO, HOWEVER IT HAPPENED —
» [MULTIPLE SPEAKERS]. » IT’S A GOOD THING WE WERE
THERE AT THE TABLE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. AND END UP IN A
BETTER SPOT. HOW DO WE EVALUATE THIS? IS IT
A GREAT DEAL? I DON’T THINK SO. IS IT A GOOD DEAL? I’M NOT EVEN
SURE IT’S A GOOD DEAL. IT’S A BETTER DEAL, AND AGAIN, I’M
THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE A BETTER DEAL THAN WHAT WE HAD FROM WHERE
WE SIT RIGHT HERE AT THIS MOMENT. YOU KNOW, I’M
UNCOMFORTABLE VOTING EITHER FOR OR AGAINST BUT MY INCLINATION IS
TO VOTE FOR BECAUSE AS OF WHERE WE SIT NOW, WE DON’T — I
CERTAINLY DON’T HAVE A BETTER OPTION FOR US. WE DON’T HAVE
MUCH AVAILABLE TO US. YES, WE ARE LOSING EVEN MORE CONTROL
THROUGH THIS DEAL, BUT REALLY WITH THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT WE
REALLY HAD NO CONTROL. SO YOU KNOW, I THINK FROM WHERE WE SIT
NOW THAT WE SHOULD SUPPORT THIS. FROM LOOKING AHEAD LIKE GOING 15
YEARS INTO THE FUTURE AND LOOKING BACK ON THIS DEAL, WHAT
WILL WE SAY THEN? WAS IT A DEAL WE SHOULD HAVE MADE? AND I, YOU
KNOW, I DON’T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I HOPE THE ANSWER TURNS
OUT TO BE YES. I HOPE WE DON’T LOOK BACK ON IT AND SAY, WOW,
YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD HAVE ANTICIPATED THIS, WE SHOULD HAVE
ANTICIPATED THAT. AND WE REALLY GAVE UP CONTROL AND LOOKED LOOK WHAT HAPPENED. I
HOPE IT’S NOT LIKE LOOKING BACK ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE
SHEPHERD SUBWAY AND FILLING IN OF THE EGLINGTON LINE AND I KNOW
THOSE WEREN’T — ESPECIALLY THE FILLING IN OF THE EGLINGTON LINE
WAS IMPOSED ON US. BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF A GENTLE IMPOSING
ON US, AND I SUPPOSE WE HAVE TO MAKE THE BEST OF A BAD
SITUATION. BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO A TIME WHERE WE HAVE A
PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT THAT TRULY WANTS TO BE PARTNERS WITH THE
CITY. AND WE CAN SUPPORT SOMETHING. » THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FILION.
WHAT HE SAID. COUNCILLOR WONG-TAM.
» THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DEPUTY SPEAKER. I HAVE MOTION I WILL
ASK THE CLERKS TO PUT THIS ON THE SCREEN CITY COUNCIL AFFIRM
IT’S SUPPORT FOR THE MAINTAIN MAINTENANCE OF THE — THIS
REPORT PROVIDES NO GUARANTEE THAT THE
MAINTENANCE WILL BE CARRIED OUT BY THE TTC OPERATORS AS OF
TODAY. AND DURING MY QUESTIONING TO STAFF, THEY WERE
ALSO NOT ABLE TO GIVE US ANY FURTHER ASSURANCES THAN WHAT WAS
ALREADY CONTAINED IN THE REPORT. WHAT IS TROUBLING ABOUT THAT OF
COURSE IS THAT WE KNOW THAT THE EFFICIENCY AND THE SAFETY OF THE
SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTE PARAMOUNT ESPECIALLY MOVING
FORWARD AS WE MERGE NEW AND OLD TECHNOLOGISTS. AND I DO THINK
THAT IT’S VERY IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT IN EXAMPLES
AROUND THE WORLD WHERE MAINTENANCE HAS BEEN BROKEN OFF
AND PRIVATIZED, THEY HAVE RECEIVED WORSE SERVICE AND IT’S
COST THEM A LOT MORE. AND DESPITE THE UNDER FUNDING, THE
CHRONIC UNDERFUNDING OF THE TORONTO TRANSIT COMMISSION THE
SKILLED WORKERS AT THE TTC HAVE DONE AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB OF
KEEPING THE FLEET OF VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE IN ALL FORMS
RUNNING AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. BUT ONLY IF WE
EMPOWER THEM TO DO SO. WE’VE ALSO GOT TO TAKE A LOOK AT A
REPORT FROM THE AG, OUR AUDITOR GENERAL, WHO SPECIFICALLY TALKED
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FAILURES OF PRESTO, AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
YOU HAVE TOO MANY AGENCIES, TOO MANY EXTERNAL AGENCIES POKE
BEING THEIR NOSES AND THEIR FINGERS IN OUR BUSINESS. AND
WHAT WE’VE SEEN IS A FAILURE OF A SYSTEM THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
INTEGRATED. WE TALK ABOUT FAIR INTEGRATION IT’S NOT GOING TO
HAPPEN IF THE PROVINCE CONTINUES TO PUT THEIR NOSES IN OUR
BUSINESS. SO CONTRACTING OUT MAINTENANCE OF THE NEW OR
EXISTING LINES WILL ACTUALLY BE FOR OUR RIDERS A DETRIMENTAL
BLOW TO THEM WITH WHAT THEY EXPECT WHICH IS QUALITY OF
SERVICE. I THINK IT’S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR US, MADAM SPEAKER,
TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE ONTARIO LINE DESPITE ALL THE BACK
SLAPPING AND THE HIGH FIVEs THAT I’M HEARING ON THE FLOOR OF
COUNCIL IS THAT IT HAS NO BUSINESS CASE. WE HAVE NO
BUSINESS CASE FOR THE ONTARIO LINE. AND WE’RE ABOUT TO MAKE A
DECISION AND SEND STAFF FURTHER OFF INTO THIS DISCUSSION, AND
PROBABLY IN THE QUANTITY ITEMS OF TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
INTO THE FUTURE, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS
FINANCIALLY VIABLE AND WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL FLOAT AT THE END
OF THE DAY. AND TO ME, THAT’S — IT’S HIGHLY IRRESPONSIBLE,
MADAM SPEAKER, FOR US TO MAKE SUCH A DECISION AND A COMMITMENT
RIGHT NOW BY EVEN SUGGESTING THAT WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION,
IT IS ENTIRELY FALSE. WE DO NOT. AND I DON’T THINK, MADAM
SPEAKER, THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ABOUT
A VERY IMPORTANT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT WHEN WE
DON’T HAVE REAL INFORMATION BEFORE US. AND THIS LACK OF
TRANSPARENCY, THE LACK OF A BUSINESS CASE IS INCREDIBLY
TROUBLING, BECAUSE THIS SEEMS TO BE THE WAY WE’RE ASKED TO PLAN
TRANSIT IN THE CITY. AND I REALLY WISH THAT WE WERE NOT PUT
IN THIS POSITION, BUT HERE WE ARE ONCE AGAIN TRYING TO MAKE
LEMONADE OUT OF LEMONS. AND I’M NOT INTERESTED IN LEADING FROM
BEHIND. I DON’T THINK ANYBODY WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT OUR
COMMUNITIES TO SAY IF SOMEBODY CASES OUT OUR HOUSE AN THEN
DECIDES NOT TO STEAL FROM IT THAT WE SHOULD BE JOYFUL, THAT
SOMEONE THREATENED TO SET OUR HOUSE ON FIRE BUT THEN DECIDED
NOT TO AND PUT DOWN THEIR BOX OF MATCHES THAT WE SHOULD BE
GLEEFUL. I CANNOT IMAGINE HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY LOOK INTO THE
FACE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AND SAY THAT I’VE DONE THE VERY BEST FOR
YOU. AND I STOOD UP FOR YOU WHEN WE NEEDED TO. AND IT NOT ABOUT GETTING TO THE
TABLE, MADAM SPEAKER, IT’S ABOUT WORKING WITH PARTNERS THAT WILL
RESPECT US AND THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE AND THE STUDIES THAT WE’VE
CONCLUDED AND THE AMBITIONS OF THE CITY BASED ON EVIDENCE, AND
BASED ON OUR VISION AND ASPIRATIONS FOR THE CITY. SO,
MADAM SPEAKER, THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS THAT HAVE LEFT
UNANSWERED. AND I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WE WENT THROUGH A
ROUND OF QUESTIONS SO RAPIDLY, AND I STILL HAVE MORE AND I KNOW
OUR MEMBERS DO AS WELL BUT WE’RE NOT GOING TO GET THEM BECAUSE
THE STAFF SIMPLY DON’T HAVE THEM. BUT YET HERE WE ARE ASKED
TO MAKE A DECISION TO PROCEED WITH SOMETHING WE KNOW IS FLAWED
IN OUR GUT, WE MUST KNOW THAT A TRANSIT PROPOSAL OF THIS
MAGNITUDE WORTH THIS MUCH IN QUANTITY ITEM WITHOUT A BUSINESS
CASE, AND WE’RE GOING TO CAST A VOTE FOR IT, BASED ON DUBIOUS ASSUMPTIONS, IT IS
THE HEIGHT OF IRRESPONSIBILITY. THANK YOU.
» THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR CARROLL.
» THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I HAVE TWO MOTIONS. [READING] AND I ALSO THINK THAT WE’RE DEEP
IN THE NEGOTIATIONS AND SO IT WOULD KIND HIJACK A SPECIAL
BUDGET COUNCIL MEETING HERE IN THIS CHAMBER IN JANUARY.
IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE BUDGET THOUGH. WE KNOW WE’LL GET A
GOOD STRONG FIVE YEAR PLAN ON STATE OF GOOD REPAIR. OUR
CAPITAL PLAN WILL GIVE US A ROCK SOLID FIVE YEARS THAT DON’T NEED
TO BE AMENDED. BUT THEY REALLY NEED TO PAINT A
PICTURE. AS SOON AS WE GET THROUGH THIS BUDGET COMMITTEE,
WHILE WE’RE STILL GETTING TO THE FINAL AGREEMENT. THEY NEED TO
PAINT A PICTURE FOR THIS CHAMBER, NOT JUST FOR COMMISSION
BUT FOR THIS CHAMBER OF WHAT IS THE COST OF KEEPING THE BASE
SYSTEM GOING. BECAUSE IT IS OUR BURDEN NOW IF WE AGREE TO THIS.
WE SOUND A LITTLE LIKE WE’RE SITTING HERE THINKING YOU MADE A
BAD DEAL. I’M PAINFULLY AWARE OF THE WHOLE TABLE. IF THERE
ARE PROBLEMS IN THE WAY THIS IS COMING TO US, IF THERE ARE
PROBLEMS IF THERE ARE INCOMPLETE THINGS I’M CONSIDERING THE WHOLE
TABLE IN THAT. AND SO I’M NOT PASSING ANY JUDGMENT ON ANYONE
IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW UNLESS THEY’VE SENT ONE TO LISTEN TO
OUR DEBATE AND THEY’RE SITTING BEHIND ME. SO ALL I KNOW IS
THIS: ONCE WE’RE BACK HERE AND WE’VE GOT OUR — WHAT IS IT 1.24
BILLION IS REALLY ALL THE MONEY THAT WE’RE GETTING BACK, WE
CAN’T LET OUR EYES BE BIGGER THAN OUR STOMACHS. WE HAVE TO
REALLY KNOW WHAT OUR COSTS ARE OF OUR BASE CAPITAL PROGRAM IN
FINE DETAIL AND PARTICULARLY THE VEHICLE PURCHASES, BECAUSE AT
THE MOMENT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PROVINCE IS ABANDONING THEM, THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ALREADY IN THEIR PREVIOUS TERM COUGHED UP A
LOT THROUGH PTIF AND PFIF 2 AND THEY’RE NOW IN A MINORITY
SITUATION SO WE DON’T KNOW WHAT’S COMING FROM THEM. I HOPE
THEY WORK WITH THE HOUSE IN OTTAWA THAT WANTS TO INVEST IN
TRANSIT BUT WE DON’T KNOW. AND SO WE’D BETTER DARN WELL KNOW
WHAT WE’RE RESPONSIBLE FOR. IN MOTION A, MADAM SPEAKER, IN
OPERATING WE’VE HAD GOOD NEWS FROM THE PROVINCE BEFORE THEY’VE
CHANGED THEIR MINDS, WE CHANGED OUR MINDS, WHATEVER. WE ALWAYS
SAY FROM 1995, WHEN THE PROVINCE WALKED AWAY FROM FUNDING
OPERATING, WHEN THEY WALKED AWAY FROM THE BILL DAVIS FORMULA THAT
WE KNOW WORKED FOR FUNDING TRANSIT ON THE OPERATING SIDE,
SO THAT YOU COULD EXPAND WHILE KEEPING YOUR BASE SYSTEM AFLOAT.
AND FROM THE TIME WE WALKED AWAY FROM THAT SUCCESSIVE PREMIERES
KEEP SAYING YEAH THAT WAS A BAD IDEA, WE’LL TALK ABOUT OPERATING
LET’S BUILD THIS SHINY NEW THING WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE THAT
OPERATING CONVERSATION ONE OF THESE DAYS. WHAT I’M ASKING IS
THAT AS PART OF THIS NEGOTIATION WE ENSURE THAT WE’VE SET A DATE.
I WANT THERE TO BE A DATE AND CITY MANAGER’S DIARY THAT SAYS
ON MARCH 1ST THE WHATEVER THE WHATEVER IS THE DAY THAT I PHONE
THE PREMIERE’S OFFICE AND SAY IT’S TIME TO HAVE THE OPERATING
CONVERSATION WE AGREED TODAY IS THE DAY WE START THAT
CONVERSATION. IT WILL END UP BEING A NEGOTIATION JUST THE
SAME AS NEGOTIATION WE’RE HAVING OVER BUILDING NEW LINES BUT THIS
HAS TO BE A DAY THAT IT STARTS. LIKE A LABOUR NEGOTIATION IT HAS
TO HAVE A DEADLINE. SO LET’S SET ONE AS PART OF THESE
NEGOTIATIONS, I DON’T CARE IF IT’S 12 MONTHS FROM NOW, 36
MONTHS FROM NOW THERE NEEDS TO BE A DATE AT THE CITY IN OUR
DIARY THAT SAYS TODAY’S THE DAY WE OPEN THAT CONVERSATION. I’VE
SHOWN THIS TO THE MAYOR, I’VE SHOWN THIS TO THE STAY MANAGER
AND THEY AGREE WITH ME WE’VE GOT TO MAIL THAT DOWN THIS TIME.
THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. » THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR KARYGIANNIS.
» THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I DO HAVE A MOTION IF STAFF WILL
PUT IT UP I’LL APPRECIATE IT. BASICALLY THE MOTION ASK FOR
THAT WE HAVE THE CITY MANAGER COMMUNICATE TO THE PROVINCE AND
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT IN FUTURE STAGES WHEN THEY’RE DOING
TRANSIT PLANNING WE STRONGLY CONSIDER EXTENDING THE SUBWAY TO
CONNECT WITH THE NEW PROPOSED STATION AT SHEPHERD AVENUE AT
MCCOWAN TO IDENTIFY BUDGET PROCESSES. MADAM SPEAKER, WE
ARE EXPERIENCING A BOOM IN HOUSING ALONG SHEPHERD EAST AND
WEST. — WE’RE BUILDING A SUBWAY FOR
THE LIFE OF ME WE’RE SPENDING OUR MONEY I DON’T KNOW WHY.
YEAH PEOPLE SAY THEY’RE COME TO WORK DOWNTOWN GETTING PAID GOING
BACK UP. THEY’RE JUST AS MUCH CITIZENS AS
WE ARE. THE CITY OF TORONTO AND ITS
CITIZENS AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE NORTH OF THE 401 IN SCARBOROUGH
DESERVE NOTHING ELSE BUT A SUBWAY THAT GOES THE 3 STOP
SUBWAY ALONG SCARBOROUGH — THE SCARBOROUGH SUBWAY AND ALONG THE
SHEPPARD SUBWAY TO CONNECT IT. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.
» THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR MCKELVIE.
» THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I WANT TO START BY THANKING CITY
STAFF FOR LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF TORONTO IN THIS
NEGOTIATION AND THANKING MAYOR TORY. SCARBOROUGH NEEDS INTEGRATED
TRANSIT NETWORK THAT RELIES ON THE SCARBOROUGH SUBWAY EXTENSION
IS THE EGLINGTON EAST LRT AND RAPID TRANSIT ON SHEPPARD.
TODAY’S AGREEMENT IS A GOOD DEAL FOR SCARBOROUGH AS IT TAKES THE
NEXT STEP TOWARDS THIS TRANSIT NETWORK. IT COMMITS THE
PROVINCE TO FUNDING OF THE EXTENSION AND IT FREES UP THE
CITY COMMITMENT TO SAY THAT PROJECT. 1.23 BILL RONNE IS BEING
COLLECTED THROUGH A DEDICATED TAX LEVY AND DEVELOPMENT
CHARGES. THESE FUNDS WERE COLLECTED WITH SCARBOROUGH
TRANSIT IN MIND. AND I WILL ADVOCATE A THAT THESE
FUNDS ARE SPENT ON SCARBOROUGH TRANSIT SPECIFICALLY THE
EGLINGTON EAST LRT. BUT I APPRECIATE THAT’S A DEBATE FOR
NEXT YEAR. BUT WHAT I’D LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS —
THERE ARE LETTERS INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE. THE SCARBOROUGH
HOSPITAL NETWORK, THE UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO SCARBOROUGH CAMPUS
AND CENTENNIAL COLLEGE. COLLECTIVELY THEY REPRESENT
15,000 STAFF, 35,000 STUDENTS AND OVER 500,000 PATIENTS.
THERE’S ALSO LETTERS FROM THE SCARBOROUGH BUSINESS ASSOCIATION
AND RENEW SCARBOROUGH THAT SPEAK TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
APPEAR HOUSING THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH HIGHER ORDER TRANSIT IN
SCARBOROUGH. THERE’S ALSO LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM 3 LOCAL
COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IN EASTERN SCARBOROUGH, THE CENTENNIAL,
HIGHLAND CREEK AND COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION THEY ALL INDICATE
THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE SCARBOROUGH SUBWAY AND EGLINGTON
EAST LRT. BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT THROUGH THIS AGREEMENTS WE NEED
TO DEMONSTRATE CREDIBLE PROGRESS TOWARDS OUR STATE OF GOOD REPAIR
BACKLOG EVEN THOUGH WE’RE NOT TOTALLY SURE WHAT THE DEFINITION
OF THAT MEANS RIGHT NOW. » COUNCILLOR BAILÃO.
» I THINK MORE THAN HALF HAS ALREADY SPOKEN, AT LEAST THERE’S
NOT MANY OF US. AND I THINK THERE WAS PROBABLY JUST ONE
PERSON THAT REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE BIG ISSUE THAT STARTED THIS DISCUSSION
WHICH WAS UPLOAD. AND I’VE SEEN THIS DISCUSSION
OUT THERE CHARACTERIZED AS THE UPLOAD IS NO LONGER HAPPENING
BECAUSE — IN EXCHANGE FOR THE ONTARIO LINE APPROVAL, OR YOU
KNOW, THE UPLOAD IS NO LONGER A BIG DEAL, IT WAS BIG BUT IT’S NO
LONGER A BIG DEAL. THE REALITY IS THAT ABOUT A YEAR AGO WE WERE
FACING THE UPLOAD WHEN MANY PEOPLE SAID WE SHOULD NOT BE AT
THE TABLE AND THE TABLE PROVED TO BE RIGHT. AND WHAT I HEARD
FROM OUR CITY MANAGER AND FROM LEGAL DEPARTMENT AS WELL, IS
THAT THERE IS NO LEGAL — THERE IS NO REAL EXCHANGE, THE ONTARIO
LINE HAS BEEN LEGISLATED, THE ONTARIO LINE WORK IS GOING TO
PROCEED, EITHER WE’RE GOING TO BE ONCE AGAIN AT THE TABLE OR
NOT. AND ACTUALLY WE WOULDN’T EVEN BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OUR
WORK BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AGAINST THE LAW TO CONTINUE OUR WORK.
SO I THINK THAT WHAT IS IF FRONT OF US IS A VICTORY IN THAT SENSE
THAT WE CONTINUE TO OWN AND OPERATE OR TTC. WE DO HAVE A
MAJOR CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND WE HAVE FUNDS THAT WE’RE GOING TO
BE ABLE TO USE AND MUCH, MUCH NEEDED UPKEEP AND TO ADDRESS THE
BACKLOG. NOW, ARE THERE ISSUES WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT
ARE IN FRONT OF US, I THINK THAT THERE ARE. AND I THINK THAT IS
WHY IT’S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE CONDITION THESE CONVERSATIONS,
THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE AT THE TABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT MANY OF
THE ISSUES, AND YOU KNOW, I SYMPATHY — THESE ARE ISSUES
THAT WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT AS THESE LINES ARE DEVELOPED IN OUR
CITY THAT THESE ISSUES ARE BEING PUT FORWARD, THAT AS THESE LINES
ARE BEING CONNECTED WITH OUR EXISTING TTC, THAT THE NEEDS OF
THE EXISTING SYSTEM, THE SUSTAIN ABILITY OF OUR EXISTING SYSTEM
IS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE. AND THAT IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT THAT
WE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATIONS IN A PRAGMATIC WAY AND TO ENSURE
THAT TRANSIT IS BUILT. FOR THAT I WANT TO THANK OUR CITY STAFF
FOR THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE AND THANK THE LEADERSHIP OF THE
MAYOR. WE NEED TO BE ON THE TABLE WE’LL CONTINUE TO BE AT
THE TABLE SO I’M HAPPY THAT WE’RE THERE, NOW LET’S GET THIS
TRANSIT BUILT. » THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR LAI.
» THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. FIRST OF ALL I’D LIKE TO ECHO
ALL MY COLLEAGUES HERE TO THANK THE CITY STAFF, ESPECIALLY THE
CITY MANAGER. AND MR. CITY MANAGER I THINK YOU MUST BE VERY
LIKABLE BECAUSE WHEN YOU AT THE TABLE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THEY DO
WHAT YOU ASK FOR. SO PEOPLE REMAIN LIKABLE SO THAT
WE CAN GET MORE WE CAN GET. AND FROM MR. MAYOR I REALLY, YOU
KNOW, REALLY CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR NEGOTIATION BECAUSE IT’S
NOT EASY TO GET A DEAL. FOR ME, I DON’T KNOW WHETHER THERE’S A
FLOOR PLAN OR THE TORY PLAN I ONLY KNOW ONE PLAN BECAUSE I’M
NEW ON THIS COUNCIL AND I REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY
MASSIVE PLAN THAT WE ARE PLANNING THAT THE — THAT IS THE
LEAST COST TO THE CITY SUBWAY PLAN THAT IS WITH THE LEAST COST
TO THE CITY AND I THINK WE SHOULD NOT PASS. AND WE TALK
AND TALK AND TALK, YOU KNOW, THERE’S NO PERFECT PLAN. LET’S
GET THE SHOVEL ON THE GROUND. AND WE CAN — WE CAN TALK, BUT
WE NEED TO WALK. SO I WAS ALWAYS TELLING THIS STORY ABOUT
IN THE’70s THERE WAS NO SUBWAY IN HONG KONG WHEN I CAME. BUT
40 YEARS LATER I MEAN, AT THAT TIME IN THE’70s WHEN I CAME
THERE WAS SUBWAY UP TO EGLINGTON AND UP TO EAST EGLINGTON AND UP
TO — SO BASICALLY YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF SUBWAYS — THAT WE
BUILT A NUMBER OF SUBWAYS THAT WE’VE BUILT COMPARING THAT TO OF
HONG KONG NOW IS LIKE — SO WE HAVE A LOT OF CATCH UP TO PLAY. AND I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE
MY SHEPPARD EXTENSION LINE TO BE ON THIS PLAN BUT IT WASN’T — IT
WASN’T ON THE PLAN, BUT WE NEED TO WALK TOGETHER, WE NEED TO
WORK TOGETHER. » BEFORE CLOSING MY REMARKS THE
ONLY THING I HAD LIKE TO PUT ON THE FLOOR, COUNCIL A LOCAL
ISSUE. THANK VERY MUCH, MADAM SPEAKER.
» THANK YOU. » COUNCILLOR PERKS. » THANK YOU, SPEAKER. I HAVE
MOTION. I MOVE THAT CITY COUNCIL AMEND
THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION 3 BY INSERTING
AND AN AGREEMENT WHICH REQUIRES THE PROVINCIAL AND FEDERAL
GOVERNMENTS TO PAY 2-3RD OF THE STATE OF GOOD REPAIR AND ROLLING
STOCK COSTS. WE’VE BEEN HAD. WE’VE BEEN COMPLETELY SWINDLED.
WE’VE HAD OUR POCKETS PICKED, WE’VE BEEN TRICKED, WE’VE BEEN
FOOLED. SINCE ABOUT 1995, THE CITY OF
TORONTO EVERY YEAR IN ITS BUDGET DEBATE SENDS A LETTER TO THE
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO AND SAYS WE CANNOT AFFORD TO RUN THE SYSTEM
WE HAVE, YOU HAVE TO HELP US NOW. AND THE PROVE VICTIMS OF ONTARIO
GOT SICK OF THAT. EVENTUALLY. THEY GAVE US SOME MONEY ALONG
THE WAY WHICH I’LL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT BUT THEY EVENTUALLY GOT
SICK OF IT. AND IF YOU’LL RECALL ABOUT 2 YEARS AGO THE
PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE PARTY OF ONTARIO SAID WE KNOW HOW TO
SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. WE WILL UPLOAD THE TTC SO THAT WE CAN
BETTER FINANCE THE STATE OF GOOD REPAIR USING OUR VAST BORROWING
POWERS WHICH THE CITY OF TORONTO DOES NOT HAVE. AND THAT’S HOW
WE WOUND UP WITH THE UPLOAD CONVERSATION. THE UPLOAD CONVERSATION WAS
NEVER JUST AN EMPTY THREAT, IT WAS A WAY FOR THE PROVINCE TO
GET AWAY FROM THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE ONLY MAJOR CITY IN NORTH
AMERICA OR EUROPE THAT DOES NOT HAVE SUSTAINED CAPITAL FUNDING.
WE’RE THE ONLY ONE. AND HERE WE ARE WITH AN AGREEMENT IN FRONT
OF US THAT AS MR. LEERY POINTED OUT FREES UP ONE BILLION OF $24
BILLION THAT WE NEED JUST TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM WE HAVE.
THAT’S 5 PERCENT, THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE LET’S THE PROVINCE
OFF THE HOOK AND LEAVES US WITH 95% OF OUR STATE OF GOOD REPAIR
AND ROLLING STOCK NEEDS UNFUNDED. IT IS LITERALLY THE
WORST TRANSIT DEAL THAT HAS EVER BEEN PUT IN FRONT OF THIS
COUNCIL. IT IS UTTERLY SHOCKING TO ME THAT ANY OF YOU WOULD
CONSIDER THIS. BEYOND THAT, YOU’VE HEARD THAT ONCE WE VOTE
YES TODAY, IT WILL BE AT THE SOLE DISCRETION OF THE PROVINCE
OF ONTARIO, HOW TO PLAN AND DESIGN THESE NEW LINES. WE WILL
HAVE GIVEN AWAY OUR ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. NOW, SOME HAVE SUGGESTED THE
PROVINCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN HARD ON US AND NEVER BEEN ABLE TO
CONCLUDE A DEAL. I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT SITTING IN FRONT
OF ME IS A FORMER BUDGET CHIEF WHO WAS ABLE TO GET A HUNDRED
MILLION DOLLARS 2 YEARS IN A ROW WHO WAS ABLE TO GET THE GST FOR
TRANSIT, WHO WAS ABLE TO GET THE GAS TAX FOR TRANSIT, WHO WAS
ABLE TO GET THE LANCE TRANSFER TAX WHICH IS THE ONLY REASON
WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO OPERATE OR TRANSIT SYSTEM AND WHO WAS ABLE
TO GET THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO HELP US BUY 800 BUSSES, AND WHO
WAS ABLE TO GET THE FEDERAL AND PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS TO HELP
US BUY 204 STREET CARS. IF WE WOULD JUST REMEMBER THE SIMPLE,
SIMPLE PRINCIPLE THAT YOU CAN’T ADD A STORY ON TOP OF A BUILDING WHOSE FOUNDATIONS ARE
CRUMBLING, WE WOULD NEVER SIGN A DEAL LIKE THIS. WE WOULD SAY
THE FIRST JOB IS TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM YOU HAVE. THAT’S THE
QUESTION I HAVE ASKED THE CEO OF THE TTC EVERY TIME I HAVE — WE
HAVE DEBATED TRANSIT, I HAVE SAID WHAT IS JOB 1 AND EVERY
SINGLE TIME HE IS SAID THE STATE OF GOOD REPAIR. IF YOU BUILD
THE ONTARIO LINE AND CAN’T AFFORD TO RUN LINE 2 WHAT DO
PEOPLE GETTING OFF THE ONTARIO LINE CONNECT TO. IF YOU ARE
EXTENDING THE SUBWAY OUT EAST, AND YOU HAVE NO MONEY TO BUY
BUSSES, HOW DO PEOPLE GET TO THESE NEW STOPS? IF THE YONGE LINE CONTINUES TO
CRUMBLE, WHAT ON EARTH IS THE POINT OF HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE THE ONTARIO LINE
TERMINUS IS? THIS IS ALL JUST FANTASY. IT IS RIDICULOUS. WE HAVE LOST
THE PLOT. AND BECAUSE WE LOST THE PLOT PREMIERE FORD PICKETED
OUR POCKET, THE ONLY PERSON WHO WALKS AWAY WITH A BENEFIT OUT OF
THIS IS PREMIERE FORD. YOU KNOW HOW YOU SPELL TRANSIT
FAILURE IN TORONTO? FORDR-D. » COUNCILLOR BRADFORD.
» THANKS VERY MUCH, MADAM SPEAKER. I’D LIKE TO START BY
THANKING CITY STAFF, THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS TEAM, CHIEF
PLANNER AN THE MAYOR FOR REALLY PUTTING US IN A POSITIVE
DIRECTION AND TAKING WHAT WAS LARGELY A NEGATIVE SITUATION AND
OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF MONTHS AND DOZENS AND DOZENS OF
MEETINGS GREATLY IMPROVING THAT. DESPITE THE RHETORIC WE JUST
HEARD I’M GOING TO TRY AND BE A LITTLE MORE PRAGMATIC ABOUT
WHAT’S IN FRONT OF US. I THINK IT’S BEEN A TOUGH TRANSIT
DYNAMIC IN THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO, I THINK WE CAN ALL
AGREE ON THAT OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS. AS COLLEAGUES HAVE
MENTIONED LITERALLY WITH STROKE OF A PEN BILL 107 COMPLETELY
CHANGED OUR TRANSIT PARADIGM. THE CITY OF TORONTO IS NO LONGER
PERMITTED TO PLAN TRANSIT EXPANSION ON THESE KEY
PRIORITIES, THAT’S THE REALITY. BUT WE’RE IN A MUCH BETTER
POSITION TODAY BECAUSE OF THE MAYOR’S LEADERSHIP, BECAUSE OF
CITY STAFF AND BECAUSE COOLER HEADS PREVAILED. WE SENT OUR
TEAM TO THE TABLE TO ADVANCE TORONTO’S CENTER IN A VERY
CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT. TO IGNORE THE ACHIEVEMENTS THAT
HAVE COME OUT OF THOSE NEGOTIATIONS IS IRRESPONSIBLE. NOW, I THINK THAT WE ALL STILL
HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, A LOT OF QUESTIONS REMAIN. AS WE’VE
HEARD FROM OUR STAFF THAT’S PRETTY TYPICAL, THAT’S TYPICAL
OF LINEAR TRANSIT PROJECTS THAT ARE CUTTING ACROSS THE CITY AND
MANY STABLE NEIGHBOURHOODS IN A VERY CHALLENGING URBAN
ENVIRONMENT. THAT INFORMATION IS GOING TO COME FORWARD THROUGH
A DETAILED DESIGN PROCESS. THAT’S WHAT YOU GET IN A STAGE
GATING PROCESS, THAT’S WHAT YOU GET WITH TRANSIT PROJECTS IN
NORTH AMERICA, THAT INFORMATION ISN’T PRESENTED TO YOU ON DAY 1.
STAFF TEAMS, ENGINEERS, CONSULTANTS WORK AND BUILD THAT
INFORMATION. AND THEN AS POLITICIANS AS STUFF WE HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT. SAME WITH COST ESTIMATES, THAT
IS WHAT IS GOING TO COME FORWARD OF THIS. AND THAT’S A TYPICAL
PROCESS. SO HAS THE PROCESS BEEN VERY CHALLENGING TO DATE?
YES. YOU KNOW, WE CAN BUSINESS CASES AND DOCUMENTS FRIDAY
AFTERNOON, THAT’S NOT HELPFUL, BUT WHERE WE ARE TODAY BECAUSE
OF THE WORK AND BECAUSE WE’VE BEEN AT THE TABLE WE’RE IN A
MUCH BETTER POSITION. WE’RE ACTUALLY HERE TO MAKE DECISIONS,
THAT’S OUR JOB. WE’RE HERE TO MAKE DECISIONS. AND THAT’S WHAT
WE’RE GOING TO DO. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE FACTS, WE NEED TO
LOOK AT THE LEGISLATION THAT LITERALLY GOVERNS WHAT WE’RE
DOING AS A MUNICIPALITY, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. AND THEN WE
NEED TO DECIDE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD FOR TORONTONIANS FOR TTC
RIDERS AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD IN
THE TRANSIT FILE. NOW, THIS 18 MOTIONS IN FRONT OF US, I THINK
IT’S 18 AND SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO COMPLETELY UNMINE THE
WORK THAT’S BEEN DONE TODAY. SOME OF THEM ARE FINE. UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS POLITICS.
THIS IS THE POLITICS OF TRANSIT THAT HAS FAILED TIME AND TIME
AGAIN. IT DIDN’T TAKE LONG FOR US TO START TALKING ABOUT
TRANSIT CITY AGAIN, GREAT PLAN. IT WAS A REALLY GREAT PLAN.
IT’S NOT GETTING BUILT. I’M SORRY THAT WASN’T MY DECISION AS
A NEW COUNCILLOR, BUT THAT’S NOT HAPPENING. AND I DON’T THINK
IT’S HELPFUL. ALSO DOESN’T HELP TO TALK ABOUT THE DELAYS. I
MEAN, THERE WILL BE DELAYS AND SHOW ME A TRANSIT PROJECT IN
NORTH AMERICA WHERE IT HASN’T BEEN OVER TIME AND OVER BUDGET,
LIKE THAT IS THE REALITY OF THESE LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE
PROJECTS AND I HAD UNFORTUNATE. BUT I ALSO THINK BLOWING UP AN
AGREEMENT THAT’S BEEN WORKED OUT OVER THE PAST YEAR AND STARTING
OVER AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL FURTHER DELAY US. AND THE OTHER
OPTION OF NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR THE NEXT 3 YEARS AND HOPING
THERE’S A CHANGE IN GOVERNMENT THAT DOESN’T SOUND VERY
RESPONSIBLE TO ME EITHER. I WANT TO FIND A WAY WHERE WE CAN
ALL MOVE FORWARD AND I THINK THAT’S THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT
THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US. THERE ARE A LOT OF VALID
CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. AND ANYTIME YOU
BRING IN MAJOR TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE INTO DENSE STABLE
URBAN NEIGHBOURHOODS THERE’S GOING TO BE CHALLENGES IT
DOESN’T MATTER IF IT’S UNDER GRADE, AT GRADE OR ABOVE GRADE
THAT IS GOING TO BE PAINFUL AND PAINFUL FOR FORESEEABLE FUTURE
HERE IN THE CITY BECAUSE WE HAVEN’T DONE IT OVER THE
PREVIOUS DECADES. IT’S ONLY GOING TO GET HARDER. BUT THE
BEST WAY TO MITIGATE THOSE IMPACTS IS BY BEING AT THE
TABLE, SENDING OUR STAFF THERE TO NEGOTIATE FOR OUR INTERESTS,
TO ADVOCATE FOR CITY BUILDING PRIORITIES, AND TO SHAPE THAT
PROCESS. AND THAT THE WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO. SO I WANT
TO FOCUS ON HOW WE’RE ADVANCNG TRANSIT IN THIS CITY AND WHAT WE
CAN DO TODAY TO BUILD A TRANSIT FOR TOMORROW. I THINK THERE’S
SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOME MOTIONS HERE THAT ARE
THOUGHTFUL, AGAIN THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE GOING TO UNDERMINE THE
WORK THAT’S BEEN DONE TO DATE, BUT WOULD APPRECIATE YOU
SUPPORTING THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS WORKED OUT BY STAFF. I
THINK THAT’S A BEST MOST PRAGMATIC WAY FORWARD. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM SPEAKER. » THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR HOLYDAY.
» I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE GREAT WORK DONE BY THE TEAM AND
CITY STAFF. THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING TIME BECAUSE WHAT WE’RE
TALKING ABOUT IS A REGIONAL TRANSIT PLAN. I THINK WHAT WE TEND TO BE
TORONTO-FOCUSED, BUT THERE’S A COUPLE ELEMENTS IN THIS PLAN
THAT ARE EXTENDING BEYOND THE CITY. AND THERE’S THE ONTARIO
LINE WHICH IS GOING TO DO A LOT THINGS BUT IT’S ALSO GOING TO DO SOME CAPACITY INCREASES THAT
WILL HELP SERVE OUR NEIGHBORS OUTSIDE THE CITY.
AND THAT THE A GOOD THING. HE HAS FOR ME THAT REPRESENTS AN
AREA ON THE EDGE OF THE 905 TO THE 416 BORDER, THAT MEANS THAT
MAYBE MORE PEOPLE FROM THOSE AREAS INSTEAD OF DRIVING THROUGH
OR CITY TO GET TO THEIR PLACE OF WORK OR WHERE THEY’RE GOING TO
VISIT, MIGHT CHOOSE TRANSIT BECAUSE IT GOES RIGHT TO THEM. BUT I LISTENED TO THE COUNCIL
DEBATE TODAY AND AMAZINGLY THE AMOUNT OF DOUBT THAT’S CAST INTO
THIS PROCESS, I THINK ABOUT TIME I GO WITH MY KIDS TO THE
MOVIE THEATER, 3 KIDS, LITTLE KIDS THEY ARGUE AND FIGHT I WANT
TO SEE THIS MOVIE, THAT ONE’S BAD, THAT ONE’S R RATE WE CAN’T
SEE THAT. AND THERE’S ONE WAY THAT I SOLVE THE DISCUSSION
REALLY FAST. I PULL OUT MY CREDIT CARD AND SAY I’M THE ONE
PAYING FOR IT, I’M CALLING THE SHOTS, I’M PICKING THE MOVIE. THIS IS IMPORTANT. THIS IS HOW MUCH WE’RE PAYING.
0. 0. THAT’S WHAT WE’RE CONTRIBUTING
TO THE CAPITAL. THERE’S THIS ATTACK JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO
ABOUT YOU KNOW HOW BAD THIS IS. IT MEANS WE CAN TAKE $6 BILLION
WE WERE OTHERWISE GOING TO USE TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUT
IT IN A STATE OF GOOD REPAIR. I DON’T KNOW HOW ELSE WE COULD
POSSIBLY DO THAT. OTHER THAN TO — AND IF YOU READ THE REPORT
WE’RE NOT BEING ASKED FOR MUCH OTHER THAN CONCEPT — CONSENT TO
HAVE A FEDERAL GRANT DIRECTED TOWARDS THIS PROJECT. THE
ONTARIO LINE IT ALMOST COMPLETELY OVERLAYS WHERE THE
OTHER SUBWAY WAS. I KNOW IT’S OUT BY A FEW HUNDRED METERS IN A
FEW SPOTS, IT OVERLAYS IT AND THEN GOES LONGER. SO I WENT
THROUGH THIS REPORT, LISTENED TO THE DEBATES, WENT THROUGH
PRESENTATIONS, I’LL TELL YOU IT’S CYNICAL, I WAS LOOKING FOR
SOMETHING TO FIND FAULT IN, BUT IT WAS AWFULLY HARD. I THINK
THIS IS A FANTASTIC DEAL FOR TORONTO, I THINK THIS IS
FANTASTIC THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO COME AND BUILD THIS
INFRASTRUCTURE. I THINK IT’S FANTASTIC THAT IT’S
REGIONAL IN NATURE. EXPERIENCE OF OUR STAFF WHO HAVE THE
EXPERIENCE IN DEALING WITH THE EGLINGTON CROSSTOWN THAT THEY’RE
GOING TO FIND A WAY TO DO THIS FASTER AND BETTER. I HOPE TO
COOPERATE WITH THE ONTARIO GOVERNMENT. AT THE END OF THE
DAY IT’S ABOUT THE TRANSIT RIDERS, ABOUT INVITING PEOPLE TO
THE SYSTEM, GETTING THEM FROM A TO ABOUT IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER.
I’M ALSO DELIGHTED TO SAY AFTER A LONG, LONG PUSH THE LIGHT IS
AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL OR THERE’S A TUNNEL UNDERNEATH THE
GROUND FOR THE EGLINGTON WEST LRT, COUNCILLOR FORD FINANCIALED
IT, SOMETHING THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT
I REPRESENT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TRANSIT
INVESTMENTS ARE ENHANCING OUR NEIGHBOURHOODS, WE’RE NOT JUST A
PASS THROUGH. WE ARE PEOPLE THAT ENJOY TRANSIT, THAT USE
TRANSIT, THAT NEED TRANSIT BUT ALSO RELY ON A ROAD SYSTEM THAT
WORKS. AND I THINK THE GOVERNMENT’S COMMITMENT TO DOING
THAT IS A PORTION OF THIS PLAN THAT ISN’T TALKED ABOUT ENOUGH. SO I REALLY HOPE THAT COUNCIL
SUPPORTS THIS. THERE’S SOME POISON MOTIONS IN
HERE THAT I’M CONCERNED WITH THAT LOOK TO BASICALLY PLAN SOME
MORE BEFORE AGREEING TO CONSENTING TO HAVE A FEDERAL
GRANT GO FORWARD. SO THERE’S THE IRONY OF IT, RIGHT THE
CRITICISM OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO SET BACK THE CLOCK AND
TAKE MORE TIME BUT THE MOTIONS HERE SAY LET’S GO BACK AND
DISCUSS THIS SOME MORE BEFORE WE AGREE TO MOVE FORWARD.
ANYWAYS, SOMETIMES YOU SEE IRONIC THINGS IN THE CHAMBER.
THIS IS A DAY THAT I’M GOING TO REFLECT ON MY TIME IN THE CITY
COUNCIL THIS IS GREAT FOR CITY AND THIS IS A BIG TRANSFORMATION
THAT’S ABOUT TO HAPPEN. THANK YOU.
» THANK YOU. THERE’S NO MOTION, COUNCILLOR
COLLE. » [AWAY FROM MIC]. » A CLARIFICATION ON WHAT,
THERE’S NO MOTION. » [AWAY FROM MIC].
» COUNCILLOR CRESSY. » WELL, THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
LET ME BEGIN BY PLACING AN AMENDMENT WHICH IS TO DIRECT THE
CITY MANAGER IN CONSULTATION WITH CEO OF THE TTC TO ENSURE
DISCUSSION IN INTEGRATION IS INCORPORATED. LET ME BEGIN
FIRST OF ALL BY THANKING OUR CITY STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK,
REALLY HARD WORK UNDER CHALLENGING CIRCUMSTANCES. AND
THEY WENT OUT AND DID A SOLID JOB AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR
THAT. IN TEN YEARS OF TRANSIT DEBATES THAT I’VE WATCHED AT
CITY HALL, THE LESSON THAT I’VE LEARNED AND I’VE SAID IT BEFORE,
IS THAT IT’S VERY EASY TO ANNOUNCE TRANSIT. WE
HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS EVERY YEAR ABOUT NEW TRANSIT, BUT IT’S VERY
HARD TO ACTUALLY BUILD TRANSIT. AND SO WITH THE PROPOSAL IN
FRONT OF US, I’D LIKE TO SHARE A FEW THOUGHTS ON WHAT I SEE AS
THE POSITIVES, WHAT I SEE AS THE NEGATIVES AND WHAT I SEE AS THE
UNKNOWNS, THE GOOD THE BAD AND UNKNOWN AND I’LL TELL YOU WHERE
I’VE LANDED AS A RESULT. AS A STARTING POINT WHEN IT COMES TO
THE POSITIVES THERE ARE POSITIVES I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT. THE UPLOAD IS OFF THE TABLE, WHETHER IT WAS A BAD IDEA
TO BEGIN WITH, FRANKLY, IT’S OFF THE TABLE. AND THAT’S A GOOD
THING. AND I THINK THAT A GREAT DEAL OF CREDIT FOR THAT RESTS
WITH CITY STAFF WHO DID THIS HARD WORK AND THIS CHAMBER AND
MAYOR TORY. THERE ARE NEW PROVINCIAL DOLLARS COMMITTED TO
TRANSIT EXPANSION. THAT IS A GOOD THING. IN DOING SO THE
PROVINCE IS TAKING ON RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE NEW
TRANSIT EXPANSION PROJECTS, THAT IS A GOOD THING. AND IF THIS
DOES RESULT IN RELIEF FOR LINE 1, IF IT DOES, ESPECIALLY FOR
SOME OF THE NORTHERN NEIGHBOURHOODS NORTH OF THE
DANFORTH, MANY OF THE UNDERSERVED NEIGHBOURHOODS NORTH
OF THE DANFORTH THAT IS A VERY GOOD THING. SO THOSE ARE GOOD
POSITIVE BENEFITS IN FRONT OF US. NOW, ARE THOSE BENEFITS THE
RESULT OF US SITTING AT THE TABLE, OR ARE THEY RESULT OF A
NEW DESIRE FROM THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT AS A RESULT OF OUR
COLLECTIVE FIGHT? I THINK IT’S PROBABLY A BIT OF BOTH. AND SO
THERE’S CREDIT ALL AROUND ON THAT. SO THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS.
ARE THERE BAD COMPONENTS OF THIS PROPOSAL? THERE ARE. IF YOU
LIVE IN SCARBOROUGH, YOU’RE MUCH NEEDED TRANSIT IS GOING TO BE
FURTHER DELAYED. IN 9 YEARS IN SCARBOROUGH WE HAVE GONE AND LET
GO THROUGH IT, IN 9 YEARS, JUST 9 YEARS FROM A 7 STOP LRT TO A 3
STOP SUBWAY TO A 7 STOP LRT TO A 3 STOP SUBWAY TO A ONE STOP
SUBWAY PLUS A 1 STOP LRT, THAT’S 9 YEARS NOTHING HAS BEEN BUILT.
NOTHING. MEANWHILE, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH
ALL OF THOSE CHANGES. AND EVERY TIME WE’VE CHANGED TRANSIT WE’VE
SAID WE’RE BRINGING TRANSIT TO SCARBOROUGH ONLY FURTHER
DELAYING TRANSIT TO SCARBOROUGH. SO THIS DEAL WILL FURTHER DELAY
AN GIVEN WE’RE AT EARLY DESIGNS BY THE TIME WE HAVE MORE DETAILS
PROBABLY RESULT IN FURTHER DELAYS AND CHANGES TO TRANSIT IN
SCARBOROUGH. NOW, THE UNKNOWNS. WHEN IT COMES TO THE ONTARIO
LINE THERE ARE A GREAT DEAL OF UNKNOWNS AT THIS POINT. THERE
ARE UNKNOWN AS RELATED TO THE ALIGNMENT, TO THE DEPTH OF
LINES, TO THE WAY IN WHICH WE’RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM TO
FARE I WANT GRADUATION. AND GIVEN THE FACT WE DON’T HAVE ANY
DESIGN WORK FOR THE ONTARIO LINE WE’RE AT 0 TO 10% LINE WHICH
MEANS WE HAVE LINES ON A MAP. I THINK THERE’S A RISK THAT A YEAR
FROM NOW AFTER DESIGN WORK HAS BEEN DONE WE’LL BE BACK
DISCUSSING CHANGES TO THE ONTARIO LINE BASED ON COST
ESCALATIONS, THAT’S A VERY REAL RISK. SO THOSE ARE THE
UNKNOWNS. THAT’S AS I SEE IT THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE
UNKNOWN. SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US? WELL, FOR ME, THE
CONCLUSION I’VE REACHED IS THAT WE HAVE A TOUGH DECISION DO WE
SUPPORT YET ANOTHER NEW DEAL FOR TRANSIT THAT HAS CLEAR BENEFITS
BUT WILL LIKELY RESULT IN FURTHER DELAYS AND LIKELY
CHANGES. SO DO WE SUPPORT THAT, OR DO WE RISK ANOTHER STAND OFF
WITH THE PROVINCE AND RISK 3 YEARS OF NOTHING HAPPENING?
THOSE ARE THE 2 CHOICES. AND SO FOR ME, WHERE I HAVE LANDED IS
THAT WITH THIS GOVERNMENT, GIVEN WHAT’S IN FRONT OF US, THAT WE
SHOULD AND WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND
CHANGES. BUT I FEEL THAT I HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO SUPPORT THE
DEAL IN FRONT OF ME. AND SO IF THERE’S AN OVERARCHING LESSON TO
THAT FOR ME, GIVEN THE 9 YEARS OF ENDLESS TRANSIT CHANGES, IT’S
THAT ENOUGH WITH THE TRADITION OF A NEW TRANSIT PLAN AFTER
EVERY ELECTION, THAT THE THE LESSON, IS THAT WHAT WE SHOULD
DO AS 3 LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT IS TAKE THE EXPERTS’S ADVICE IN
WHERE TO BUILD TRANSIT AND 3 LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT WE FUND IT,
AND WE FUND THE REPAIRS NEEDED AN THE EXPANSION NEEDED BUT
ENOUGH WITH THE NEW ANNOUNCEMENTS AND DEALS EVERY
YEAR AND EVERY ELECTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
» THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR. THE NEXT SPEAKER WHO WOULD NOT DREAM
OF CALLING TO QUESTION BEFORE SPEAKER, MR. MAYOR IS COUNCILLOR
GRIMES. » THANK YOU. I THINK THANK
YOU. . I’LL START OFF BY SAYING I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE GOT
UP HERE TODAY AND STARTING THANKING THE MAYOR AND STAFF, I
THINK THAT’S A GOOD INDICATION WHERE WE’RE AT AND PLACE WE’RE
IN SO I WILL THANK THE MAYOR FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS, I’VE HAD
MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM AND THE TEAM, TTC WE’VE GOT A GREAT
TEAM ANSWERING QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT REALLY PUTS US IN
THIS RING IN A GOOD PLACE. I’M IN A GOOD PLACE, $30 BILLION
CLOSE TO $30 BILLION UNPRECEDENTED AMOUNT OF MONEY
COMING FROM THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT, I WANT TO THANK THEM
FOR THEIR INVESTMENT, BUT YOU KNOW 45 YEARS OF INACTIVITY ON
THIS TRANSIT FILE, PEOPLE DON’T CARE. PEOPLE DON’T CARE WHO’S
BUILDING IT NOW. THEY WANT TO SEE US WORKING TOGETHER AND
GETTING THIS BUILT. 45 YEARS ON THIS FILE. AND $30 BILLION
INVESTMENT, AND OUR STAFF WORKING WITH THEIR STAFF, I
THINK THERE’S BEEN TOO MANY HANDS IN PIES OVER THE LAST FEW
YEARS. BUT PEOPLE DON’T CARE. HOW MANY APPLICATIONS DO WE HAVE
IN THE HOPPER RIGHT NOW? AND EVERYTHING NEEDED ON GOING
THROUGH THESE WE’RE GOING TO APPROVE THE SECONDARY PLAN TODAY
WE’VE DONE THE ONE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, PEOPLE DON’T CARE.
THEY WANT TO GET OUT OF THEIR CARS THEY WANT TRANSIT AT THEIR
FRONT DOOR AND THEY WANT IT BUILT. AND I CAN TELL YOU THE
AMOUNT OF DENSITY WE’RE PUTTING IN THIS CITY IS UNPRECEDENTED
AND PEOPLE DON’T CARE. THEY WANT TO SEE IT BUILT. AGAIN, I
JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF. I HATE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE WHEN
SOME OF THESE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL SAID NO, LET’S JUST WALK AWAY
AND LEAVE IT WHERE WOULD WE BE TODAY. THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF
GREAT WORK DONE UP HERE IN FRONT OF THE ROOM AND LOOK FORWARD TO
SEEING THIS THINGS GET BUILT IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS. NEXT MAYBE
LOOKING AT THE WEST END OF THE CITY. WE NEED SOME TRANSIT OUT
THERE BUT THIS WILL BE GREAT FOR SCARBOROUGH AND GREAT FOR CITY.
SO I’LL BE SUPPORTING THIS TODAY. THANK YOU.
» THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR GRIMES. SPEAKER NUNZIATA IS NEXT.
» THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK STAFF
AND THE MAYOR’S OFFICE. NOW, WE’VE BEEN DEBATING TRANSIT FOR
OVER 30 YEARS. WHILE FOR ME IT’S BEEN A LITTLE
OVER 30. IT GOES BACK WHEN THE EGLINGTON SUBWAY WAS CANCELLED.
AND THEN WHEN DAVID MILLER WAS MAYOR, HE
BROUGHT FORWARD TRANSIT CITY, AND I REMEMBER BEING IN THIS
COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHERE I PLEADED WITH COUNCIL, PLEASE TRANSIT
CITY WOULD HAVE EXPROPRIATED 45 HOMES AT EGLINGTON. NOBODY
CARED THEY VOTED FOR IT. AND FORTUNATELY THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN.
WE’RE GETTING A TUNNEL AT EGLINGTON AND WESTERN ROAD. A
FEW MONTHS AGO WE HEARD FROM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND
PROTESTERS OUTSIDE AND INSIDE, AGAINST THE UPLOADING THAT WAS
ANNOUNCED BY THE PROVINCE. SO WHAT WE DID WE MOVED A MOTION
THAT WE ASKED STAFF BECAUSE THAT WAS A PRIORITY FOR COUNCIL TO
SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE WITH THE PROVINCE A NEGOTIATED DEAL. SO
THE DEAL IS HERE. MAYBE NOT EVERYONE LIKES THE DEAL, BUT WE
INSTRUCTED STAFF TO NEGOTIATE A DEAL THAT’S BEST FOR THE CITY OF
TORONTO. AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS DEAL THAT’S BEEN NEGOTIATED
IS IN THE BEST CITY IN THE
RESIDENTS OF TORONTO. IT WAS MENTIONED, IT MAY NOT BE PERFECT
BUT WE’RE GOING TO GET TRANSIT BUILT. THE MAIN THING FOR ME IS
LET’S GET TRANSIT BUILT AND STOP DEBATING. I’M SICK OF IT. LET
START BUILDING. » THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR
NUNZIATA. COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA. COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA, ARE YOU
READY? » YEP. OH, ABSOLUTELY. OR AS READY AS I’LL EVER BE
SPEAKER. I HAVE A MOTION WHICH I’D LIKE
TO MOVE AND IT SELF-EXPLANATORY. SPEAKER, I DON’T PROFESS TO BE
THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE ROOM ON THIS ONE.
» NO, BUT YOU ARE. » NO, I’M NOT.
» ALL IN FAVOR? » [LAUGHTER].
» AND I WOULD BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT THAT. BUT HERE’S WHAT I’M
LOOKING AT. THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT THAT HAS SAID QUITE
CLEARLY IT WANTS TO — LET’S CALL IT INVEST. $30
BILLION MOSTLY IN THE CITY OF TORONTO,
EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE BIT THAT EXTENDS INTO YORK REGION
RICHMOND HILL. LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN. THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT IS
SAYING THAT IT WANTS TO INVEST OR SPEND OF THEIR MONEY $30
BILLION IN THE CITY OF TORONTO. I GUESS WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
THAT, A LITTLE BIT, AND YOU LET THAT NUMBER SINK IN, IT IS ABSOLUTELY
STAGGERING. IT’S STAGGERING THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY THAT THEY HAVE SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEND IN THE CITY
OF TORONTO. THAT HAS ALL KINDS OF
REPERCUSSIONS. THERE’S ECONOMIC BENEFITS, THIS
IS JOBS, THERE’S INFRASTRUCTURES, THERE’S
TRANSIT, THERE’S GROWTH, THERE’S REGENERATION, THERE’S ADDED
TAXES, THERE’S ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
» [AWAY FROM MIC]. » ATTACH TO ALL OF THAT. $30 BILLION. YOU KNOW, WHAT’S
MIND NUMBING IS THAT THEY’RE GOING TO LET HER RIP THAT HARD,
THAT FAST THAT THEY’RE EVEN SAYING IT. IRRESPECTIVE OF MAYBE NEVER
SPENDING IT, JUST SAYING IT. IS ABSOLUTELY STAGGERING, THAT
THEY WOULD LET IT RIP THAT FAR. SO SOME PEOPLE HERE ARE SAYING
— AND BY THE WAY, THEY’RE ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR MINDS AND SPEND
THIS MUCH MONEY IN THE CITY OF TORONTO, WE SHOULDN’T ACCEPT IT.
IMAGINE THAT. WE SHOULD SIT BACK AND SAY OH
YOU KNOW WHAT WE’RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO — WE’RE NOT GOING TO
BE ABLE TO PAY FOR IT TECHNOLOGY MANAGE IT, NOT GOING TO BE ABLE
TO DO THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER. TO EVEN SUGGEST THAT, I
DON’T PROFESS TO BE THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE ROOM, RIGHT.
BUT THAT DOESN’T SOUND TO ME LIKE THE SMARTEST POSITION IN
THE ROOM EITHER. SHOULD WE WELCOME THIS? I
THINK, I THINK OR STAFF AND THE MAYOR HAVE DONE AN ABSOLUTELY
AMAZING THING. HOWEVER THAT CAME ABOUT. TO THINK THAT WE WOULD GET THAT
KIND OF INVESTMENT HERE. SO WHAT WE SHOULD BE TURNING OUR
MINDS TO IS HOW QUICKLY CAN WE GET IT IN? HOW QUICKLY CAN WE
GET IT INTO THE GROUND 1234 BEFORE SOMETHING UNTOWARD
HAPPENS TO THAT. THAT’S WHAT WE SHOULD BE TURNING OUR MINDS TO.
THAT’S WHAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON. TUNNEL IT UP FAST, GET GOING
WITH IT. MOVE THE PEOPLE ALONG AS QUICK
AS YOU CAN. THIS DIDN’T START OFF BEING THAT
WAY. IT STARTED OFF WHEN THEY FIRST
ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WANTED TO US PAY 1-3RD, THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TO PAY 1-3RD, ALL KINDS OF OTHER MACHINE NATIONS
CONNECTED TO IT. I’VE HAD THE BENEFIT OF HAVING BEEN AROUND ON
THIS FILE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. I WAS AT THE PROVINCE WHEN WE
BUILT THE FIRST EXTENSION FROM WILSON TO DOWNSVIEW STATION, DID
IT IN A YEAR AND A HALF, RECORD TIME, $25 MILLION SAVINGS AT THE
END OF IT. WHY? WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RECESSION. NOTHING
BUT PEOPLE POWER AROUND TO POWER IT UP. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE
COMPETING AGENDAS THAT’S WHEN YOU GET ALL TRIPPED OUT. I HAVE
A REALLY GOOD STORY, IT’S TOO BAD I DON’T HAVE THE TIME TO
TELL YOU. I THINK THAT THIS IS GOOD. I THINK WE SHOULD JUST
PROCEED WITH IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
» WE DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. COUNCILLOR COLLE,
CLARIFICATION OF THE MOTION. » JUST A CLARIFICATION, IF YOUR
MOTION YOU SEEM TO IMPLY AS COUNCILLOR HOLYDAY DID, THAT
THIS IS NOT OUR MONEY, THAT THE CITY OF TORONTO SHOULD WELCOME
IT BECAUSE WE’RE NOT PAYING FOR IT. DON’T WE PAY THROUGH THIS
THROUGH OR INCOME TAX, CORPORATE TAX, SALES WE MUST SUPPORT THE
WHOLE COUNTRY WITH THE TAXES WE PAY IN TORONTO AND WHAT WE PAY
INTO THE PROVINCE SO ISN’T IT LIKE OUR MONEY WHETHER IT’S THE
PROVINCE ALLOCATING IT OR NOT? » THIS IS TRUE, BUT THEY COULD
ALWAYS SPEND IT AND IF WE SPEND IT WE’RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT
ANYWAYS. BETTER TO GET IT HERE. » SHOULDN’T WE HAVE A SAY WHERE
THEY SPEND OUR MONEY WHICH IS OUR MONEY WE PAY IN TAXES EVERY
DAY — » COUNCILLOR COLLE —
» [MULTIPLE SPEAKERS]. » IT IS CLARIFICATION OF HIS
MOTION. » THAT’S WHAT I’M ASKING.
» NO, BUT THAT’S NOT CLARIFICATION.
» I PERSONALLY THINK — » [MULTIPLE SPEAKERS].
» HE’S THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE ROOM.
» NOT AT ALL. » OKAY. THANK YOU.
» WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN EVERYTHING SPEAKER, IF I COULD
ANSWER THAT QUESTION. HOWEVER, THEY ARE THE PROVINCIAL
GOVERNMENT AND SOMETIMES THEY TRUMP US AND 234 THIS CASE THEY
WANT GIVE A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY. A LOT OF ECONOMIC — OF COURSE
IT’S OUR MONEY. AND THE SAME WAY IT WAS OUR MONEY WHEN THE
FORMER PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT WANTED TO GIVE US # .9 BILLION
AND THEN CUT IT BACK TO 8.4. AND WE SPENT SOME OF THAT MONEY.
» THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA.
» THANK YOU. » OKAY THAT’S IT FOR THE
SPEAKER, OUR LAST SPEAKER IS MAYOR TORY.
» THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I WILL JUST SAY AT THE OUTSET I
SAID QUITE A FEW WORDS OF GRATITUDE TO OUR STAFF INCLUDING
OUR CITY MANAGER AND OTHERS THE OTHER DAY AND THOSE WORDS STAND
AND ARE CAN ONLY BE AMPLIFIED. I ALSO JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT
I’LL BE VOTING AGAINST COUNCILLOR MATLOW’S MOTIONS AS
THEY I THINK TRY TO PUT US INTO A TIME MACHINE AND TAKE US BACK
IN TIME TO A TIME THAT HAS LONG SINCE PASSED, NO TO COUNCILLOR
LAYTON’S MOTION A AND D AND NO TO COUNCILLOR PERKS MOTION. HE
SAID THIS IS THE WORST PLAN EVER, AND IT’S DIFFICULT FOR ME
TO COMPARE IT TO ANY PLANS HE HAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO
TORONTO-ONTARIO THIS COUNCIL FOR TRANSIT BECAUSE THIS HAVEN’T
BEEN ANY, BUT I’LL VOTE AGAINST THAT MOTION. COUNCILLOR CARROLL SAID DURING
THE DEBATE THAT THERE’S A LOT MORE TO DO AND SHE’S RIGHT
THERE’S A LOT MORE TO DO. THIS IS NOT THE END.
BUT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT AS I DO THIS AGREEMENT PAINSTAKINGLY
NEGOTIATED BY PROFESSIONAL PUBLIC SERVANTS, GIVES US WHAT I
WOULD CALL A ONCE IN A LIFETIME CHANCE TO DO A NUMBER OF THINGS.
FIRST, TO GET A GOOD START ON GETTING TRANSIT FIXED ON THE
STATE OF GOOD REPAIR FASTER THAN OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE
CASE AND WE’VE LEFT OUT OF THE DISCUSSION LARGELY DURING THIS
DEBATE THIS AFTERNOON FACT THAT WE HAD PUT SOME MONEY ASIDE IN
OUR OWN TEN-YEAR PLAN. FOURTHLY TO GET TRANSIT AND THIS
WAS OVERLOOKED QUITE A BIT TO THE GET TRANSIT TO TWO
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, A LOT SOONER THAN OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE
BEEN THE CASE. TO GET RELIEF FOR THE YONGE STREET SUBWAY LINE
A LOT SOONER THAN OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE CASE. AND
IF HE SAME TIME WE MAINTAIN OWNERSHIP OF OUR SUBWAY. I
REMEMBER SOME OF THESE SAME PEOPLE GET UP AND SAY THIS
UPLOADING THING WAS THE WORST DISASTER EVER. PEOPLE WERE
PRACTICALLY LIGHTING THEIR HAIR ON FIRE FOR THAT. AND I AGREE.
IT WAS A NEGATIVE DEVELOPMENT FOR US. AND WE HAVE SUCCEEDED
— WE HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMITMENTS WE’VE NEVER HAD
BEFORE ONE OF TO GO TO THE PROVINCE JOINTLY TO THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT ABOUT STATE OF GOOD REPAIR AND CAN A CAPITAL UPKEEP. LEGISLATIVE STEPS HAD BEEN TAKEN
TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. ARBITRARY LEGISLATIVE
DETERMINATION OF EXACTLY WHAT TRANSIT PROJECTS WOULD HAPPEN
WAS UNDERWAY. AND WORSE THAN THAT IN A WAY THEY WERE SAYING
THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY A THIRD OF THE COST THAT
HAVE. SO A BIG CHUNK OF THAT 30
BILLION WAS GOING TO COME FROM US. THERE WAS NO PROSPECT
BEYOND THE AMOUNT AROUND IN THE CAPITAL PLAN TO HELP US FINANCE
THE STATE OF GOOD REPAIR WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT PRIORITY. AND
PEOPLE I COULD NAME IN THIS CHAMBER, MADAM SPEAKER, A COUPLE
IN PARTICULAR SAID WE SHOULD JUST STOP OUR FEET, WE SHOULD
BANG OR SHOE ON THE TABLE AND TELL THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT
TO STUFF. . COUNCILLOR LAYTON WAS RIGHT
TODAY WHEN HE SAID 2 ALTERNATIVES, ONE WAS TO TALK TO
THEM AND OTHER WAS FIGHTING. AND THAT’S WHAT HE SAID THE
CHOICE WAS AND HE WAS RIGHT, THAT WAS THE CHOICE. WELL, I’M
FOR BUILDING NOT FOR FIGHTING. AND I’M NOT — I MEAN, THESE
NEGOTIATIONS WERE NOT EASY. THERE WERE TIMES WHEN WE HAD TO
SAY THAT WE MAY NOT JUST BE ABLE TO GET A DEAL AND MIGHT HAVE TO
WALK AWAY FROM THE TABLE. I WOULD POINT OUT THAT
DISCUSSIONS CONTINUED EVEN AT THE WORST HOUR OF THE BUDGET
CONFRONTATION AND THEY ENDED UP IN A PLACE WHERE WE GET BENEFITS
THAT I TALKED ABOUT TODAY. I THINK THE ALTERNATIVE EXACTLY
WHAT COUNCILLOR LAYTON SAID AN ENDLESS CONTINUATION OF THE
TRANSIT FIGHTS DURING WHICH ONE THING IS CERTAIN THAT THE LOSERS
WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF TORONTO THE TRANSIT
RIDERS PRESENT AND FUTURE AND NO TRANSIT WOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT
DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME. I DON’T THINK THE PEOPLE WANT
THAT. I THINK THEY WANT US AND THEY EXPECT US TO WORK TOGETHER
TO GET TRANSIT BUILT. AND I THINK THIS DEAL IS ENTIRELY
DEFENSIBLE. IT IS BETTER THAN THAT. AND I’M NOT ENDLESS
FIGHTING I’M FOR WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE OVER
GOVERNMENTS TO GET THINGS DOWN. YOU NOW HAVE AN ALIGNMENT, WHAT
I BELIEVE IT IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME CHANCE WITH THE 3
GOVERNMENTS ALIGNED TO GOAT THIS TRANSIT ACTUALLY BUILT. I WILL
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO TRY TO GET THE
PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT TO OWN UP TO WHAT IT SHOULD DO AND MAKE A
CONTRIBUTION TO OUR OPERATING EXPENDITURES, OF COURSE WE’LL
CONTINUE WITH THAT BUT I DON’T THINK WE CAN STANDSTILL AND SAY
WE’RE GOING TO KEEP FIGHTING. WE’VE GOT TO MAKE A DEAL, MOVE
FORWARD GET THE TRANSIT BUILT AND I THINK THE CITY OF TORONTO
WILL BE WAY BETTER OFF AS A RESULT OF WHAT WE’VE DONE
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GO BACK AND COMPARE TO WHERE WE WERE ONE
YEAR AGO TODAY. THANK YOU, SPEAKER.
» THANK YOU. OKAY. WE’LL HAVE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS SO ALL THE
MOTION COULD BE BROUGHT TOGETHER. » OKAY MEMBER OF COUNCIL READY.
OUR FIRST MOTION IS 1A WE’LL PUT THAT ON SCREEN. OKAY.
RECORDED VOTE. .
» COUNCILLOR LAYTON, COUNCILLOR BRADFORD AND COUNCILLOR
KARYGIANNIS, PLEASE. » COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA. COUNCILLOR CARROLL, PLEASE,
DEPARTMENT ME MAYOR MINNAN-WONG, INFRASTRUCTURE COUNCILLOR FILION
AND COUNCILLOR WOOING, PLEASE. » COUNCILLOR BRADFORD, PLEASE. MOTION 1A DOES NOT CARRY.
» OKAY. OUR NEXT ONE IS — 2A. OKAY. RECORDED VOLT. —
VOTE. » COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA, PLEASE,
AND COUNCILLOR COLLE WHEN YOU’RE SEAT.
» COUNCILLOR AINSLIE, PLEASE. » MOTION 2A DOES NOT CARRY, THE
VOTE IS 8-17. » MOTION 10. RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA, PLEASE. » MOTION 10 DOES NOT CARRY, THE
VOLT IS 8-17. » 2B. RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR GRIMES, PLEASE. MOTION 2B CARRIES 24-1. » MOTOR VEHICLES 1B RECORDING
VOTE. » COUNCILLOR MATLOW, PLEASE AND
COUNCILLOR FLETCHER. » COUNCILLOR FILION, THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR CARROLL AND
COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA, PLEASE. MOTION 2B DOES NOT CARRY THE
VOTE IS 5-20. SORRY 1B. » MOTION 1C RECORDED VOTE. COUNCILLOR CARROLL, PLEASE.
» MOTION 1C DOES NOT CARRY THE VOTE IS 7-18. » MOTION 2C. RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR BAILÃO, PLEASE.
» COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA, PLEASE. » MOTION 2C CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY
25 IN FAVOR. » MOTION — MOTION 2D.
RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR BRADFORD, PLEASE. » MOTION 2D DOES NOT CARRY THE
VOTE IS 7-18. » 3A. RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR WONG-TAM, DEPUTY
MAYOR MINNAN-WONG AND COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA, PLEASE. » MOTION 3A CARRIES 23-2. » 3B. RECORDED VOTE. » 3B CARRIES 24-1. » 3C, RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR COLLE AND
COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA, THANK YOU. » MOTION 3C CARRIES 24-1.
» MOTION 4. , PART 3.
RECORDED VOTE. COUNCILLOR THOMPSON, PLEASE. » COUNCILLOR GRIMES, COUNCILLOR
PERRUZZA AND COUNCILLOR PASTERNAK, PLEASE. » PART 3 OF MOTION 4 CARRIES
UNANIMOUSLY 25 IN FAVOR. » MOTION 5. RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR MATLOW, PLEASE,
COUNCILLOR BRADFORD. » COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA AND
COUNCILLOR PASTERNAK, PLEASE, THANK YOU. » MOTION 5 CARRIES 24-1. FOLKS FOLKS —
» OKAY. CAN WE HAVE — TO REOPEN ALL IN FAVOR. CARRIED.
SO LET’S REVOTE. RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR WONG-TAM, PLEASE. » COUNCILLOR BAILÃO, PLEASE. » MOTION 5 CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY
25 IN FAVOR. » NOTION MOTION 6 RECORDED
VOTE. » COUNCILLOR FLOAT, PLEASE. — COUNCILLOR FLETCHER, PLEASE,
COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA, COUNCILLOR CRAWFORD AND COUNCILLOR
PASTERNAK, PLEASE. » MOTION 6 CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY
25 IN FAVOR. » MOTION 7 RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR COLLE, PLEASE. .
» MOTION 7 CARRIES 23-2. » MOTION 8A. RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR CRAWFORD, THANK
YOU. COUNCILLOR PASTERNAK. » MOTION 8A CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY
25 IN FAVOR. . » MOTION 8B RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR WONG-TAM.
» COUNCILLOR MATLOW. . » THANK YOU. » MOTION 8B CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY
25 IN FAVOR. » MOTION 9 RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR WONG-TAM,
COUNCILLOR FILION, COUNCILLOR COLLE, COUNCILLOR FILION AND
COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA. » MOTION # CARRIES 17-8.
» MOTION 10 RECORDED VOTE. OH, SORRY. MOTION 11. YEAH,
SORRY. MOTION 11, RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR MATLOW, PLEASE. » COUNCILLOR WONG-TAM, PLEASE. » MOTION 11 CARRIES 24-1. » MOTION 12. OKAY. MOTION 12. » MOTION 12 CARRIES 24-1. » ITEM AS AMENDED RECORDED
VOTE. » COUNCILLOR BAILÃO, PLEASE.
» COUNCILLOR PASTERNAK, PLEASE. THANK YOU. » THE ITEM AS AMENDED CARRIES
22-3. » OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE’LL NOW GO TO THE MAYOR’S SECOND KEY ITEM.
WHICH IS ON PAGE 3 EX9.2. CITY-WIDE REAL ESTATE STRATEGY. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY WE’RE ON PAGE 2. THE
MAYOR’S SECOND KEY ITEM. NOBODY. OKAY DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK?
» [AWAY FROM MIC]. » NO, ON THE ITEM RECORDED
VOTE. » COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA, PLEASE,
COUNCILLOR CARROLL, DEPUTY MAYOR MINNAN-WONG AND COUNCILLOR
WONG-TAM, PLEASE. » THE ITEM IS ADOPTED
UNANIMOUSLY 24 IN FAVOR. » OKAY. WE’LL GO TO THE TOP OF
THE PAGE, PAGE 3, IF I CAN HAVE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ATTENTION,
PLEASE. OKAY, WE’RE AT THE TOP — WE’RE ON PAGE 3, NY8.3.
FINAL REPORT ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT FOR 1299 DON MILLS
ROAD, DEPUTY MAYOR MINNAN-WONG, YOU HELD THE ITEM DOWN. DO YOU
HAVE QUESTIONS? » MADAM CHAIR AS I SAID WHEN I
HELD BOTH ITEMS DOWN THIS IS A REPORT EXPECTED TOMORROW
MORNING. » OKAY, I’M SORRY.
» FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. SO IF YOU INDULGE.
» YEAH, I’M SORRY. » IT HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED.
» IF YOU CAN HOLD IT DOWN I HAVEN’T SEEN IT YET. I’LL LOOK
AT IT. OH HERE IT IS. THANK YOU.
» SO YOU CITY WANT TO HOLD IT DOWN?
» WELL, I’D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT IF YOU DON’T MIND.
» OKAY. YEAH WE’RE GOING TO HOLD BOTH
ITEMS DOWN THEN. OKAY SO EX9.4 IF WE CAN DEAL WITH IT
TOMORROW. PAGE 4, COUNCILLOR BAILÃO. EX9.5, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS?
» I GO THEM ANSWERED OFF LINE. SO I’M ABLE TO RELEASE, YEAH. YEAH I WOULD LIKE A RECORDED
VOTE ON IT. » DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS? ANY SPEAKERS? NO, OKAY ON THE ITEM EX THE .5,
RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR BRADFORD, PLEASE. » OKAY. HOLD ON, HOLD ON.
CANCEL THAT VOTE. COUNCILLOR BRADFORD, DO YOU HAVE AN
AMENDMENT ON IT? » YES. APOLOGIZES, THAT JUST
HAPPENED REALLY QUICKLY. I HAVE A MOTION ON BEHALF OF COUNCILLOR
ROBINSON THAT I’D LIKE TO TABLE HERE, PUT IT ON THE SCREEN. [READING] .
» YOU HAVE THE AMENDMENT BY COUNCILLOR BRADFORD. ALL IN
FAVOR? CARRIED. ON ITEM AS AMENDED RECORDED
VOTE. » COUNCILLOR KARYGIANNIS,
PLEASE, COUNCILLOR MATLOW, » COUNCILLOR WONG-TAM,
COUNCILLOR FILION, COUNCILLOR PERKS AND DEPUTY MAYOR
MINNAN-WONG AND COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA, PLEASE. » COUNCILLOR FLETCHER, WHEN
YOU’RE SEATED. AND COUNCILLOR CRESSY, WHEN
YOU’RE SEATED. » THE ITEM AS AMENDED CARRIES
UNANIMOUSLY 25 IN FAVOR. » THIS MORNING WE BROUGHT
FORWARD EX9.8 WHICH IS THE PLANNING ACT SECTION 37 AND
SECTION 45 RESERVE FUND STATEMENT 2016 AND ’18. SO DOES
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK? IT’S ON THE SCREEN.
OKAY ON ITEM ALL IN FAVOR CARRIED. OUR NEXT ITEM ON PAGE 5 EX 8.13
ASSESSING FIRE SAFETY AND FIRE CODE COMPLIANCE, COUNCILLOR
AINSLIE, YOU’VE HELD THE ITEM DOWN. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS TO
STAFF? » I CAN RELEASE IT.
» OKAY, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ON ITEM ALL IN FAVOR? CARRIED. OKAY DO I NEED TO SLOW DOWN?
» [AWAY FROM MIC]. » YOU’RE DOING GREAT. » PAGE 6. GL 8.8, UPDATE ON FIRE AND LIFE
SAFETY. COUNCILLOR AINSLIE, YOU HELD THE
ITEM DOWN. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS?
» NO, I DON’T. STAFF WERE JUST CLERKS ARE JUST FINESSING A
MOTION FOR ME THAT STAFF JUST REVIEWED. » DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? DOES
THE STAFF HAVE THE COPY OF THE MOTION?
» THEY DO. » OKAY. » I DON’T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I CAN MOVE IT AS A QUICK ITEM IF YOU WANT.
» COULD. COULD YOU MOVE YOUR MOTION?
» YEP. » OKAY. » SO THIS ITEM WAS BEFORE
GENERAL GOVERNMENT LICENSING. IT WAS ALSO PARTS OF IT WERE
HEARD AT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. SO I’M JUST MOVING THIS MOTION
FOR A REPORT BACK TO THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT LICENSING AND IF
FALLS IN LINE WITH WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED AT THE AUDIT
COMMITTEE AS WELL. AND ALSO FOR THE INFORMATION TO BE RELEASED
IN AN OPEN DATA FORMAT. » OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS? ON THE AMENDMENT ALL IN FAVOR?
CARRIED. ITEM AS AMENDED ALL IN FAVOR? CARRIED.
OKAY. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ON PAGE 6 GL 8.16, CITY OF TORONTO 2019
GREEN FLEET PLAN. COUNCILLOR LAYTON YOU HELD THE
ITEM DOWN. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
» NO. » DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS OF STAFF? TO SPEAK, COUNCILLOR LAYTON.
» YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I BELIEVE MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILLOR
AINSLIE HAS THE MOTION THAT I WOULD HAVE MOVED. BUT I’M GLAD
THAT HE’S TAKING CARE OF IT IN ADVANTAGES. IT’S JUST REALLY
IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BASED ON THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY
ELECTRIC DECLARATION THAT THE MAYOR AND I PUT FORWARD AT OUR
LAST COUNCIL MEETING WE HAVE TO UPDATE THESE STRATEGIES AND
PLANS THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR THE 80% REDUCTION 19190 LEVELS BY
2050 AND I BELIEVE THE MOTION COMING FORWARD IS GOING TO
ADVANCE THAT TO A NET 0 BY 2050 BEING THE NEW GOAL. THERE’S
ALSO A RECOMMENDATION HERE THAT WILL REPORT BACK. I HAVE NO
DOUBT THAT WHEN OUR PLAN TRANSFORM TO IS IMPROVED AS A
RESULT OF THE WORK WE’LL DO NEEDING IN THE NEXT WE’RE THAT
WE WILL HAVE TO ADVANCE SOME OF THESE TARGETS FASTER. HAVING
RETURNED FROM C 40 WITH THE MAYOR, COUNCILLOR
MCKELVIE, COUNCILLOR THOMPSON, IT’S CLEAR THAT OTHER CITIES
AROUND THE WORLD ARE ALSO TAKING THEIR FLEET, THEIR PURCHASING
POWER FOR SERIOUSLY. WE DON’T HAVE REGULAR AUTHORITY OVER THE
EMISSIONS FROM VEHICLES, WE DON’T UNFORTUNATELY. BUT WHAT
WE DO HAVE THAT CAN IMPACT TRANSPORTATION PATTERNS NOT ONLY
IN IMPROVING BUILDINGS IN BUILT FORM IS USE OUR PURCHASING POWER
IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER CITIES AROUND THE WORLD TO TRY TO DRIVE
AROUND LOW CARBON AND 0 EMISSION VEHICLES. WE NEED TO DO THAT.
THIS IS SEVERAL STEPS IN THAT DIRECTION BUT NO DOUBT HAVE TO
BE UPDATED. THANK YOU. » THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR AINSLIE.
» THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I DO HAVE A MOTION THAT I’D LIKE
TO MOVE. SO THIS ITEM WAS HEARD AT GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND
LICENSING PRIOR TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCILLOR LAYTON GOING TO THE C
40 SUMMIT. SO THIS IS BASICALLY PUTTING THE WORK THAT FLEET
SERVICES DID AND I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR ALL THEIR HARD
WORK ON THIS BASICALLY BRINGS IT IN LINE WITH WHAT THE CITY IS
TRYING TO DO UNDERTAKING WITH THE CLIMATE CONNECT DECLARATION
WORK, THANK YOU. SO IF WE CAN PUT THE AMENDMENTS
ON THE SCREEN. ALL IN FAVOR? CARRIED. ITEM AS AMENDED ALL IN FAVOR?
CARRIED. OKAY. SO WHERE IS THE AUDIT? » [AWAY FROM MIC].
» OKAY. PAGE 7. IE 8.5.
UPDATE ON FLOOD MITIGATION. COUNCILLOR CRESSY, IT’S HERE
WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. YOU HELD THE ITEM DOWN. DO YOU HAVE
QUESTIONS? » I DON’T.
» DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY COUNCILLOR CRESSY YOU’D
LIKE TO SPEAK. » I CAN SPEAK BRIEFLY AND I
UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCILLORS CRAWFORD AS WELL AS PASTERNAK
ALSO HAVE AMENDS. I ASKED FOR A SETTLEMENT TEAR REPORT WHICH I
HAVE IN FRONT OF ME. WE HAD FLOODING THAT DUE TO
OUTSTANDING WORK BY CITY STAFF, THE TRCA AND PARTNERS, EVEN
TORONTO FIRE WE WERE ABLE TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS AND KEEP
THE ISLANDS NOT ONLY OPEN BUT SAFE THIS YEAR.
BUT WE KNOW THAT AN ANNUAL SANDBAGGING EFFORT IS NOT THE
SOLUTION TO RISING WATER LEVELS. AND WHAT IS HAPPENING TO TORONTO
ISLANDS IS ALSO HAPPENING TO NEIGHBOURHOODS FROM EAST TO WEST
AND NORTH TO SOUTH IN OUR CITY. AND SO WHETHER WE’RE DEALING
WITH BASEMENT FLOODING IN YORK SOUTHWEST OR DEALING WITH RISING
WATER LEVELS AROUND THE ISLANDS OR WHETHER WE’RE DEALING WITH
FLOODING ALONG THE WATERFRONT IN SCARBOROUGH, WE KNOW THAT THIS
IS PART OF CLIMATE CHANGE ADAPTATION. SO IN FRONT OF US
TODAY IN THE SUPPLEMENTARY REPORT IS A DETAILED BREAK DOWN
OF THE LONG-TERM MITIGATION MEASURES THAT ARE UNDERWAY RIGHT
NOW. I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THAT HARD WORK. AND THIS IS A
FILE AT THAT WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO STAY ON TOP OF COLLECTIVELY.
IT’S ABOUT OUR NEIGHBOURHOODS BECAUSE OUR GEOGRAPHY HASN’T
CHANGED BUT OUR CLIMATE HAS. I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR
WORK. WE’RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO STAY ON IT COLLECTIVELY THIS
UPCOMING SEASON. AND WITH THAT I’LL CONCLUDE MY REMARKS AND I
UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE AMENDMENTS AS
WELL. THANK YOU. » THANK YOU. » CITY COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY AND
PROVIDE A LIST OF ALL WATERFRONT PROPERTIES A THAT HAVE BEEN
SUBJECT TO FLOODING AND THOSE PROPERTIES WHICH HAVE LEASE
AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY AND IDENTIFY AVAILABLE OPTIONS TO
ADDRESS BRACKETS FROM FLOODING AND PROVIDE DETAILS. [READING]
JUST VERY QUICKLY I REPRESENT A NUMBER OF VCs WHO HAVE
AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY OF TORONTO. PRIMARILY —
» [AWAY FROM MIC]. » THEY HAVE HAD SOME CHALLENGES
IN LOOKING THROUGH FRAMEWORK AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN TRYING TO
ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS WITH FLOODING. SO THIS JUST
SORT OF ADDS THAT OTHER LAYER TO GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE
PART OF THE PROCESS. » OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PASTERNAK.
» YES. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. I DO HAVE A MOTION. [READING] WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THIS
MOTION SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF HOMES
PERHAPS THOUSANDS OF HOMES EXCLUDED FROM INFRASTRUCTURE
UPGRADES ACROSS OUR CITY BECAUSE OF THIS CAP. WE NEED SOME
FLEXIBILITY, WE’D LIKE STAFF TO BRING A REPORT BACK TO SEE HOW
WE MIGHT BE DEAL WITH IT. WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH
FLOODING ON ISLAND? WELL, NEEDING ON ISLAND WAS COSTING
$61,000 PER HOUSEHOLD IF YOU WORK OUT THE CALCULATIONS. NOW,
IT IS TRUE SOME OF IT WAS PARKS FOUNDING AND PARTED WAS ROUTE
INFRASTRUCTURE. WHEN YOU TAKE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS ON THE
ISLAND AND THE AMOUNT WE’RE SPENDING WE’RE AROUND $60,000
PER HOUSEHOLD. MY RESIDENCE AND COUNCILLOR
NUNZIATA’S RESIDENTS ARE SAYING WAIT A MINUTE I’M TOLD I CAN’T
GET ANY OF THESE UPGRADES TO PROTECT MY HOME BECAUSE IT’S
GOING TO COST MORE THAN 32,000 HOW ON EARTH THIS GOING ON AT
61,000? THAT BEING SAID, I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR THIS
REPORT. CLEARLY THE ISLANDS ARE OF VALUED TREASURE FOR THE CITY
OF TORONTO. WE HAVE MADE THE COMMITMENT THROUGH THIS REPORT
AND THROUGH COUNCIL, A VOTE WHICH I GUESS WILL COME IN THE
NEXT MINUTE TO SAVE THE ISLANDS AND THE SAME TIME THE TRCA WHICH
I AM NOW A PROUD MEMBER IS ALSO COMMITTED TO SAVING THE ISLANDS.
BUT WHEN YOU SAVE ISLANDS AND SAVE THE SHORELINE YOU’RE SAVING
THE REST OF TORONTO BECAUSE YOU’RE PUTTING TOGETHER A SOLID
FUNDED RESILIENCY STRATEGY TO MAKE SURE OUR SHORE FRONT
NEIGHBOURHOODS, ASSETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS PROTECTED.
AND THAT APPROACH, THAT INVESTMENT WILL FILTER DOWN TO
THE OTHER COMMUNITIES AND RIVER SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. SO
I WAS WATCHING ON THE NEW EVERY NIGHT ABOUT THE SANDBAG THAT WAS
COSTING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A WEEK BUT TO SAVE THE
ISLANDS I THINK IT WAS WORTH IT, BUT CLEARLY THERE’S SOME MORE
WORK TO DO TO MAKE SURE THERE’S A PLAN IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THE
FUNDS ARE THERE TO DO IT BUT MOST IMPORTANT TO DO IT
CORRECTLY. I THINK WITH OUR TEAM, TRCA AND STRONG LOCAL
REPRESENTATIVE, I THINK WE CAN GET IT DONE, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. » THANK YOU. SO IF WE CAN PUT THE MOTIONS ON
THE SCREEN. OKAY MOTION 1 IS ON THE SCREEN.
RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR CARROLL, PLEASE. COUNCILLOR MATLOW WHEN YOU’RE
SEATED. AMENDMENT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY 23
IN FAVOR. » THE OTHER AMENDMENT BY
COUNCILLOR PASTERNAK, RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR BAILÃO, PLEASE.
» COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA, PLEASE. » THE AMENDMENT CARRIES
UNANIMOUSLY 22 IN FAVOR. » OKAY ITEM AS AMENDED. OH, NO, YEAH, BECAUSE IT’S HERE
WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT’S IT FOR THAT
ITEM. PAGE 7, IE 8.8, COUNCILLOR LAI
YOU HELD THE ITEM DOWN. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
» NO. » DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS? » I HAVE A MOTION.
» UPDATE ON COUNCILLOR REQUEST TO GROW SAFETY INITIATIVES.
» I HAVE MOTION, MADAM SPEAKER. » I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF
ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. NOBODY HAS QUESTIONS. OKAY TO
SPEAK, COUNCILLOR LAI. » THANK YOU. CAN STAFF PLEASE PUT THE MOTION
ON THE SCREEN? JUST MAKE A VERY, VERY TINY
AMENDMENT HERE. ON JULY COUNCIL MEETING I ACTUALLY DEFER THIS SPEED REDUCTION UNTIL
FURTHER CONSULTATION WITH MY COMMUNITY. I DID HELD A TOWN HALL MEETING. AND I ACTUALLY ASKED FOR RAISE
OF HAND OR SHOW OF HAND HOW MANY AGREE AND HOW MANY DON’T AGREE. AND MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DO NOT
AGREE FOR THE SPEED LIMIT REDUCTION. AND THEY SAY THAT MAYBE THERE
ARE SOME OTHER REASON WHY THE ACCIDENT WASN’T CAUSED BY THE
SPEED, YOU KNOW, THAT NOBODY WAS SPEEDING AND ALL THAT BECAUSE OF
LEFT TURN, RIGHT TURN, YOU KNOW THE LIGHTING AND THERE’S A LOT
OF REASON THAT THEY CAME UP WITH THAT. AND ALSO I ATTENDED A LOT OF
COMMITTEE — COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AGMs AND I’VE ALSO
CONSULTED WITH THEM AND ASKED THEM. AND TO MY SURPRISES
ACTUALLY A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T WANT THE SPEED REDUCTION. BUT
AS A LOCAL COUNCILLOR AND I’M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THESE 3
ROADS, AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT — REQUIRED BECAUSE VERY
RESIDENTIAL AREA AND MCKOWEN ROAD REQUIRED THE REDUCTION
BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF — THAT LIVES ALONG WITH THAT — ALONG
THAT ROAD. I ACTUALLY HAVE RE SEARCHED
MYSELF DRIVING DURING THE DAY OR THE EVENING AND MOST OF THE AREA
INDUSTRIAL AND THEY DON’T HAVE TOO MANY PEDESTRIANS OR THERE’S NOT
COMMERCIAL AT ALL. AND THERE’S SOME YOU KNOW, HIGHWAYS AND IT’S
NOT REALLY THAT MUCH. SO I JUST THOUGHT I’D PUT A MOTION HERE TO EXCLUDE THE MARKHAM ROAD TO
AVENUE EAST FOR THE SPEED REDUCTION TO 60 KILOMETERS TO 50
KILOMETERS, CAN COUNT ON YOUR SUPPORT.
» A QUESTION FOR YOU, COUNCILLOR KARYGIANNIS,
CLARIFICATION. » THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.
MADAM SPEAKER, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE COUNCILLOR IS
OKAY WITH LOWERING THE SPEEDS BUT SHE WANTS TO LEAVE MARKHAM
AT 60, WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? » YES, THAT’S CORRECT.
» IN VIEW OF THE ACCIDENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING LATELY, COUNCILLOR
AND THE ROADS ARE VERY WIDE YOU WANT TO RECONSIDER AND MOVE THAT
6 LANE HIGHWAY GETS REDUCED DOWN TO 50, I THINK PEOPLE IF THEY
WANT TO GET HIT AT 50 WILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF SURVIVING
VERSUS 60. » WHAT’S THE QUESTION?
» MY QUESTION IS WOULD YOU RECONSIDER ABOUT GETTING IT DOWN
TO 50 SDMRFRNLT I’M SORRY. I STILL DON’T GET YOUR QUESTION.
» MY QUESTION IS SIMPLE YOU’RE ADVOCATING FOR MARKHAM, IN VIEW WE HAVE SO
MANY ACCIDENTS LATELY, WOULD YOU RECONSIDER AND ASK FOR THIS TO
BE LOWERED DOWN TO 50 VERSUS 60? » WELL, MY — MY — I KNOW THAT
THE SHEPPARD ONE THE DRIVE WEREN’T BEING CHARGED EVEN. SO
IT’S NOT ABOUT SPEEDING. SO I THINK IT’S MORE ABOUT WE — HOW
WE ENFORCE. SO BASICALLY WE CAN —
» ELEVATOR THANK YOU. » INSTALL RED LIGHT CAMERA,
MAYBE THAT WOULD BE BETTER. ENFORCE BETTER.
» THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT. » THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR CARROLL, QUESTION.
» I’M JUST WONDERING, WAS THE OPINION GATHERED COMMUNITY BY
COMMUNITY OR DID THEY LOOK AT ALL 3 ROADS TOGETHER, WERE THEY
MEETINGS. » ALTOGETHER.
» ALL 3 ROADS. IS THERE NOT A CERTAIN — I MEAN, THERE’S A
STRETCH ON MARKHAM ROAD AT ONE POINT THERE’S A PLAZA,
MCDONALD’S, KIDS SOMETIMES GO THROUGH THE INDUSTRIAL AREA FROM
MALVERN ALL THE WAY TO GET OVER THERE BECAUSE THERE’S A BUNCH OF
THINGS, A CHOCOLATE SHOP AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I’VE HAD TO
BE CAREFUL TO AVOID JAY WALKERS OUT THERE. ARE YOU NOT
CONCERNED THAT YOU’LL HAVE A SERIES OF ROADS WHICH ONE IS THE
OUTLIER THAT’S STILL 60 KILOMETERS.
» WELL IT’S NOT — I THINK THE NEXT MCKOWEN AND MIDDLEFIELD,
MIDDLEFIELD IS 60. » YEAH, I QUESTION LEAVING
MIDDLEFIELD OUT. I THINK WE REALLY OUT TO BE CONSISTENT.
» BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF —
» I DON’T SEE TOO MANY PEDESTRIANS THERE MYSELF. I
KNOW THE AREA. I’M THE WARD COUNCILLOR.
» SO WE ADOPTED TO BE 50, FINCH WE ADOPTED TO BE 50, SOME OF
YOUR NORTH SOUTH ROADS WILL BE 50, BUT ONE WILL BE 60, YOU’RE
NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF HARMONY THERE?
» NOT JUST THIS ONE. I MEAN MIDDLEFIELD IS 60 AND MARKHAM
REMAIN 60, I THINK — ONE POCKET IS 60
AS WELL. » OKAY. AS LONG AS THEY WERE LOOKING AT
ALL OF THEM TOGETHER, THOSE ARE THEIR OPINIONS.
» THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR BRADFORD.
» THANKS VERY MUCH. JUST THROUGH THE CHAIR, DID YOU HAVE
A CHANCE TO DISCUSS THIS WITH STAFF? THIS MOTION.
» YES, YES, I DID. ACTUALLY WE DID HAVE STAFF TO HAVE A
PRESENTATION EMISSION 0 TEAM ACTUALLY WENT OUT TO MY TOWN
HALL TO EXPLAIN ALL, EVERYTHING TO THE — TO THE RESIDENTS, YES.
» AND SO MOTION THAT WE HAVE HERE TO EXCLUDE OR OMIT THAT
PARTICULAR STREET FROM A LOWERED SPEED LIMIT, DID YOU HAVE A
CHANCE TO DISCUSS THAT PIECE WITH STAFF?
» YES, WE DID. » AND WHAT WAS THE FEEDBACK.
» THE STAFF STILL GOING AHEAD WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION.
» SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION STILL STANDS.
» YES. » TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT.
OKAY. AND WHEN THE STAFF GAVE THE PRESENTATION ON VISION 0
WITH THE COMMUNITY, DID THEY OUTLINE SOME OF THE REASONS WHY ON ROADS LIKE THIS IN SUBURBAN
AREAS IT’S PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO REDUCE SPEED LIMITS
IN LIGHT OF ALL THE FATALITIES THAT WE’VE HAD THIS YEAR.
» WELL, STAFF DID MAKE THE PRESENTATION AND 40% OF THE
FATALITIES ARE LEFT TURN, AND SOME OF THEM ARE BEING, YOU
KNOW, THE INTERSECTION BEING NOT WELL LIGHTED. AND ALSO THE REASON WHY SHEPPARD BECAUSE
ALL THE TREES WERE NOT TRIMMED PROPERLY. SO THERE IS DIFFERENT
REASON FOR THAT. AND IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT
SPEEDING. » BUT IT — BUT THEY PROBABLY
MENTION THAT SPEED IS IN FACT, A KEY FACTOR IN KILLED OR SERIOUS
INJURED — » YES, THEY DID.
» OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. » THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR MATLOW TO SPEAK. » MADAM SPEAKER, YESTERDAY IN
ONE DAY 3 SENIORS, 2 IN TORONTO AND ONE IN MISSISSAUGUA WERE
TRAGICALLY HIT BY DRIVERS DRIVING MOTOR VEHICLES. AND THIS KEEPS HAPPENING OVER AND
OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND EVERY TIME THESE THINGS HAPPEN, WE SAY
WE’VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO
ABOUT IT. VISION 0 THROUGHOUT THE WORLD WHERE CITIES ARE BEING DETERMINED AND FOCUSED TO SEE
THEM THROUGH FRUITION AT A PACE THAT MATTERS, DO ALL 3 PILLARS
OF WHAT VISION 0 REALLY MEANS. ONE IS REGULATORY REFORM AND
THAT’S WHAT WE’RE ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW IN THE DEBATE WITH
COUNCILLOR LAI. SAFER SPEEDS, ENSURING THAT ROADS ARE AT SAFER
SPEEDS BASED ON REPORTS THAT WE’VE RECEIVED FROM OUR OWN
MEDICAL OFFICER OF HEALTH WHO HAS SAID THAT LOWER SPEEDS MEAN
THAT YOU WILL BE MORE LIKELY TO SURVIVE IF YOU ARE HIT BY A CAR. HOW CAN WE RESPONSIBLY IGNORE
THAT ADVICE? ANOTHER PILLAR OF VISION 0 UNDERSTOOD AROUND THE
WORLD IS ROAD REDESIGN. BETTER VISUAL QUEUES, ENSURING
THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN IN A THOUGHTFUL WAY TO ENSURE THAT
EACH OF OUR ROADS ARE DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT PROMOTE SAFETY.
MANY OF OUR ROADS WERE NOT DESIGNED THAT WAY INITIALLY.
AND THE LAST PART OBVIOUSLY IS ENFORCEMENT, BOTH HUMAN
RESOURCES AND TECHNOLOGY WHICH WE NEED TO IMPROVE TO BE ABLE TO
ENFORCE THE RULES THAT WERE — WE’RE EVEN DISCUSSING TODAY.
FAR TOO OFTEN EVEN WHEN WE PUT NUMBERS ON THE SCIENCE THEY’RE
IGNORED BY FAR TOO MANY DRIVERS. SOMETIMES BECAUSE OF
SELFISHNESS, SOMETIMES THEY’RE LOOKING AT THEIR PHONES, BUT FAR
TOO FEW PEOPLE ARE ADHERING TO THE RESUMES THAT WE EVEN PUT UP
THE SIGNS IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO THE REASON THAT I ASK WITH
ALL DUE RESPECT, TO COUNCILLOR LAI WHO I KNOW IS REFLECTING
WHAT SHE HEARD AT HER MEETING BUT WHY I ASK US ALL TO
RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH COUNCILLOR LAI AND SUPPORT THE
STAFF RECOMMENDATION, IS BECAUSE SAFETY ISN’T SOMETHING THAT IS SHOULD BE ABOUT JUST A SHOW
OF HANDS IN A MEETING. THE FACTS REMAIN THAT WE KNOW THAT WHETHER BE OUR KIDS,
WHETHER IT BE OUR PARENTS, OUR FRIENDS OR FAMILY, ANYONE WE
LOVE AND ANYONE YOU LOVE, IF THEY’RE HIT BY A CAR AT A HIGHER
SPEED, THEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO DIE. SO THAT’S NOT THE KIND OF THING
THAT YOU JUST KIND OF SHOW HOW MANY HANDS ARE AT A MEETING.
YOU DO THE RIGHT THING. WHEN I WORKED WITH COUNCILLOR PERKS AND
OTHERS AT TORONTO AND EAST YORK COMMUNITY COUNCIL TO LOWER THE
SPEED LIMITS IN TORONTO AND EAST YORK.
I WAS WORRIED IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION I DIDN’T
KNOW HOW IT WOULD BE RECEIVED, RIGHT. I DIDN’T KNOW IF IT
WOULD GO LIKE BE REALLY UNPOPULAR, I DIDN’T KNOW. BUT
THE MEDICAL OFFICER OF HEALTH WAS SO UNEQUIVOCAL WITH HIS
RECOMMENDATIONS AT THAT TIME THAT I FELT A RESPONSIBILITY TO
ACT AND EVERY MEMBER FELT THE SAME WAY AND WE WORKED TOGETHER
AND WE GOT IT DONE. WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT ACTUALLY — WE
FOUND IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY POPULAR. THAT PEOPLE RECEIVED
IT REALLY WELL. THEY KNEW WHY WE WERE DOING IT. THEY’RE STILL
DEMANDING FOR BETTER ENFORCEMENT, THAT’S SOMETHING WE
CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR. BUT WE DID THAT FOR THE RIGHT
REASONS. I GUESS I JUST ASK US ALL DON’T BE AFRAID THE POPULAR
POLITICAL PUSH BACK, ACTUALLY, I THINK MOST PEOPLE WILL SUPPORT US AT THE END OF
THE DAY. AND I THINK MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE INFORMED AND
UNDERSTAND THE FACTS OF WHY WE’RE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS AND
OUR JOB AS LEADERS IS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THEM AS WELL,
WILL COME AROUND AND UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE TO REALLY MODERNIZE THE RULES OF
THE ROAD — OF ROADS THAT WERE BUILT MANY YEARS BEFORE AND
DESIGNED IN WAYS THAT WERE NOT SAFE. AND WE’RE TRYING TO
UPDATE THAT, WE’RE TRYING TO MAKE THEM SAFE FOR TODAY. THE
LAST THING I JUST WANT TO ADD WITH JUST THE 40 SECOND
REMAINING, WE’VE BEEN INCREMENTALLY ROLLING OUT A
VISION 0 STRATEGY WHERE WE’VE GOT COMMUNITY SAFETY ZONES,
SENIOR SAFETY ZONES AND THIS AND THAT, I DON’T BELIEVE WE SHOULD
BE HAVING THESE COMMUNITY SAFETY ZONES ANY MORE. I DON’T BELIEVE
WE SHOULD BE HAVING SENIOR SAFETY ZONES ANY MORE. THE
ENTIRE CITY SHOULD BE A SAFETY ZONE. AND I REALLY AM CONVINCED
THAT IF WE INVEST THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT, I KNOW IT’S
A LOT, BUT I THINK SAFETY IS WORTH IT, I THINK IT’S A GOOD
INVESTMENT TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE WE LOVE IN OUR CITY, THAT IF WE
AUDIT THE STREETS OF OUR CITY, LOOK AT THE REGULATIONS, LOOK AT
THE ROAD DESIGN, LOOK AT RECONFIGURATION WHEN NECESSARY
AND FIGHT TO GET BETTER ENFORCEMENT, WE’LL DO OUR JOBS
WELL. » THANK YOU.
» THANK YOU. » COUNCILLOR KARYGIANNIS. » THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MADAM CHAIR, IT WASN’T TOO LONG AGO THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
VISION 0, AND I PUSHED FOR LOWERING THE SPEED
LIMITS ON SHEPPARD, FINCH AND THE REST OF MY STREETS DOWN TO
50, LO AND BE HOLD A LITTLE AFTER THAT THERE WAS A YOUNG
LADY BY THE NAME OF CHARMAINE THAT PASSED ON —
SHEPPARD AT THAT POINT IN TIME A FIVE LANE HIGHWAY, 2 LANES
COMING, TWO LANES GOING AND A CENTRAL LANE FOR CHANGING. SHE
WAS GOING ACROSS THE STREET IN ORDER TO GRAB THE BUS AT THE
STOP. AND SHE WAS KILLED. THE STREETS IN SCARBOROUGH THAT WERE BUILT BACK IN THE’60s
AN ’70s THOSE STREETS ARE WIDE. DRIVERS HAVE A TENDENCY TO
SPEED. AND NOT ENFORCING LOWER SPEEDS WHEN DRIVES KNOW THAT
IT’S A 60, THEY’LL SPEED UP TO 75, 80. WE ALL DO IT. IF AN
OLDER PERSON OR A PEDESTRIAN CROSSES ACROSS THE CHANCES OF
THEM MAKING IT OR THE CHANCES OF THE DRIVER BEING ABLE TO SEE
THEM IS VERY UNUNLIKELY. SO I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUE TO
RECONSIDER HER MOTION. LEAVING MARKHAM AT 60, IT’S A
VERY WIDE STREET, 3 LANES GOING, 3 LANES COMING, A LOT OF TRUCKS,
A LOT OF TRAFFIC. EVERYBODY THAT COMES UP FROM
JUST NORTH GOES DOWN IN ORDER TO CATCH THE 401. IF WE WERE TO
LOWER THAT SPEED AT 50, PEOPLE JUST MIGHT GO WHEN THEY TRAVEL
DO 60 OR 65, IF ANY PEDESTRIAN WAS GET HIT THE CHANCES OF THEM
SURVIVING WILL BE MUCH HIGHER THAN LEAVING THE SPEED AT 60 AND
PEOPLE DOING 75 AND 80. SO I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUE TO
RECONSIDER. AND ASK YOU NOT TO SUPPORT 60. WE NEED TO LOWER
THE SPEEDS IN SCARBOROUGH. I’VE DONE IT IN MY WARD. I KNOW
OTHERS HAVE WORKED TO DO IT AND LEAVE MARKHAM AT 60 IS CERTAINLY
SOMETHING THAT WILL ONLY ENCOURAGE TO SPEED DOWN THE
STREET. YEAH THERE MAYBE SAY WE WANT OUR STREETS FASTER AND
FASTER, SO THOSE PEOPLE GET UP A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, LET’S MAKE
SURE AT THE END OF THE NIGHT THAT WE ALL ARRIVE HOME SAFE.
WHAT WOULD WE ANY ONE OF US THAT IS THE $100 WHO SUPPORT THE # 0
MARK SAY TO A PEDESTRIAN BE IT TOMORROW, FIVE DAYS A MONTH FROM
NOW IF A PEDESTRIAN WAS HIT AND KILLED, WHAT DO WE SAY TO THAT
FAMILY? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SAY TO THE FAMILIES THAT ARE
SAYING LOWERING THE SPEED. SO I ASK YOU PLEASE TO SUPPORT THE 50
MARK. THANK YOU. » THANK YOU. » COUNCILLOR LAYTON.
» YOU KNOW, IT PAINS ME A LITTLE BIT, AND I CAN’T BELIEVE
I’M ABOUT TO SAY THIS, BUT COUNCILLOR KARYGIANNIS IS RIGHT. » BILLBOARD, BILLBOARD.
» YOU KNOW HOW TO GET SPACE ON A BILLBOARD BETTER THAN I DO I
SUSPECT. » [LAUGHTER].
» BUT IF I MAY, IF I MAY, — IF I MAY. THERE’S ONE PIECE OF THE REPORT
THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT IN OUR
QUESTIONS TO STAFF, THAT I THINK ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THIS ONE
ROAD. AND WITH THE DEEPEST RESPECT TO THE LOCAL COUNCILLOR
THIS IS A MAJOR ROAD IN THE CITY OF TORONTO. THERE HAS BEEN AN
ENORMOUS OUTCRY AND WITH GOOD REASON FOR THE NUMBER OF
FATALITIES ON OUR ROADS IN RECENT YEARS AND THAT’S WHY
STAFF CAME BACK WITH THESE REDUCTIONS. AND ON OUR
ARTERIALS I’M MORE THAN HAPPY TO LOOK AT STAFF FOR THEIR ADVICE
ON HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED. BUT OTHER THING AND THE OTHER PIECE
TO THIS WAS ON QUESTIONING WHEN I ASKED HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET
A SET OF LIGHTS, A PEDESTRIAN — PEDESTRIAN, CROSS OVER BUT TO
GET A SET OF TRAFFIC LIGHTS PUT IN, THE ACTUAL INSTALL TIME
AFTER WE SAY YES, SO AFTER YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF LIGHTS TO MAKE
AN INTERSECTION SAFER, THE WAIT TIME IS A YEAR AND A HALF AT
BEST. AND THERE’S — THERE IS SOME REASONS AROUND THAT, THEY
BUNDLE THE PROJECTS TOGETHER THEN THEY PUT THEM OUT TO TENDER
PROBABLY TO SAVE MONEY. BUT HERE’S — SO THEY’RE GETTING —
THEY’RE PAYING A COMPANY TO DESIGN THE LIGHTS AND THEN WE
HAVE OUR EXPERTS GO OVER AND MAKE SURE THEY’RE DESIGNED
CORRECTLY. THERE’S SOMETHING FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG THERE. THE
WORK IS GETTING DONE TWICE, YOU SEE WE’RE PAYING FOR ONE COMPANY
TO DO IT THEN CHECKING AND SEE AND THEN BUNDLING IT TOGETHER
AND THEN PUTTING IT OUT THERE. WE KNOW WE’RE GOING TO BE
CONSTANTLY DOING THIS WORK. WHY WOULDN’T WE TRY TO JUST BRING
THIS WORK IN-HOUSE? AND TO START ACTUALLY HAVING OUR TEAMS
PUT THE WORK IN SO THAT WE COULD TRY TO EXECUTE ON THIS WORK
FASTER. SO I DON’T HAVE A MOTION. I JUST WANTED TO FLAG
THIS FOR PEOPLE, BECAUSE THAT’S AFTER YOU GUYS HAVE ALL — MANY
OF YOU HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE YOU DO A TRAFFIC STUDY, YOU GET A
REPORT, THEN YOU COME HERE, HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE, COUNCILLOR
GRIMES. » [AWAY FROM MIC].
» COME ON. THAT’S ABOUT A YEAR. THEN YOU ADD THE YEAR AND
A HALF YOU’RE AT 2 AND A HALF YEARS. I’VE GOT ONE INSTANCE
WHERE I HAVE A DEVELOPER PAYING FOR IT, THE DEVELOPER IS DOING
SOME WORK FOR THE CITY ON SITE AND IT’S STILL A YEAR AND A HALF
TO GET A LIGHT UP PRICE IN YONGE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT BUT MARK
GRIMES CAN GET IT DONE FOR ME IN A WEEKEND. THE NOTION THAT IT TAKES THAT LONG
IS UNFORTUNATELY UNACCEPTABLE. I DON’T HAVE A SOLUTION FOR YOU
HERE TO THE BUT I’M HOPING THAT’S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK
ONTO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TIME AS PART OF OUR VISION 0 EXPERT,
SO THERE’S A BACKLOG OF THEM, LET’S JUST TRY TO GET THEM DONE
AND PUT IN FASTER. » THANK YOU. MAYOR TORY. » MADAM SPEAKER, THANK YOU. I MAY BE ABLE TO OUTDO
COUNCILLOR LAYTON IN THAT I WANT TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH ALL OF
THE COMMENTS OF COUNCILLORS MATLOW, KARYGIANNIS AND LAYTON.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY LOOK WE TALK OFTEN AROUND HERE ABOUT
EVIDENCE-BASED DECISION MAKING. SINCE 2014, ON THE STRETCH OF
BRIMLEY ROAD THERE HAVE BEEN 2 FEATS AND 7 SERIOUS INJURIES. ON MCKOWEN, 3 FATALITIES AND 8
SERIOUS INJURIES. AND THAT IS PRECISELY THE PROBLEM WHEN WE
DID THE DEEP DIVE ON THE ANALYSIS OF THE DEATHS AND
INJURIES, SERIOUS INJURIES THAT WERE TAKING PLACE IN MARKHAM.
AND THERE IS NOT ONE EASY ANSWER TO IT. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
THINGS WE HAVE TO DO INCLUDING MORE SIGNALLIZED INTERSECTIONS,
MORE CROSSWALKS, RED LIGHT CAMERAS, AUTOMATED SPEED
ENFORCEMENT BUT ALSO WHAT GOES WITH AUTOMATED SPIT ENFORCEMENT
IS THE RIGHT SPEED LIMIT THAT MAXIMIZES THE CHANCES OF SAFETY
FOR PEOPLE. SO I THINK THAT WE’VE HAD THAT EVIDENCE. AND I
DO REALLY RESPECT THE FACT THAT THE COUNCILLOR LAI HAS SPENT THE
TIME THAT SHE DID TALKING TO HER CONSTITUENT AND NORMALLY MY
PRACTICE HERE ESPECIALLY ON LOCAL MATTERS AND COMMUNITY
COUNCILLOR MATTERS — I THINK I SHOULD RESPECT WHAT THEY SAY.
IN THIS CASE I GUESS I’M SAYING THE SAME THING ALTHOUGH I DO
REGRET THE FACT THAT PUTS ME AGAINST SOMETHING THAT
COUNCILLOR LAI WANTS AND SHE HEARD FROM HER PEOPLE. IN THE
END TOTAL OF 7 FEATS — STAFF HELPED US TO CAREFULLY SELECT
WHERE THESE REDUCTIONS WOULD BE APPLIED ON THOSE WIDE STREETS
THAT WERE MADE THAT WAY. IN MANY CASES HEAVIEST THEY HAVE
VERY LITTLE ACCESS AND EGRESS. THERE’S KIND OF NEIGHBOURHOODS
THAT BACK ONTO THOSE STREETS AND PEOPLE DRIVE TOO FAST. AND IT
COMES BACK TO SOMETHING I SAID TO THE MEDIA THIS MORNING WHICH
IS THAT WE SIMPLY HAVE TO CHANGE HUMAN BEHAVIOR BUT IT WILL START
AT LEAST IN SOME INSTANCES WITH THE SPEED LIMIT REDUCTION AND
THEN HOPEFULLY THE USE OF THE AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT GOING
FORWARD. TWO MORE THINGS TO SAY, MADAM SPEAKER, ONE IS I
WANT EVERYBODY TO SORT OF SEND A MESSAGE HOWEVER WE COULD DO IT
TO QUEENS PARK TO HAVE THEM CONTINUE TO MOVE ALONG WITH THE
AUTOMATED SPEED ENFORCEMENT APPROVAL BECAUSE WE’VE SAID WE
WANT TO IMPLEMENT IT IN DECEMBER AN WE DO AND NEED TO. AND
SECONDLY, I SHOULD JUST SAY TO COUNCILLOR LAYTON JUST THIS
MORNING WE WERE DISCUSSING IN MY OFFICE AND I THINK I WILL HAVE A
MEETING WITH BARBARA GRAY TOMORROW BUT MAKE SURE THAT
THEY’RE PRIORITIZING THE PROJECTS THAT THEY’RE DOING AND
SEE IF THERE ARE WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN SPEED THEM UP. WITH
AVENUE SIGNIFICANT BACKLOG ON APPLICATION FOR CROSSWALKS FOR
EXAMPLE. I CAN’T SPEAK TO ANY ONE OF THOSE MORE THAN ANYBODY
ELSE HERE. MANY OF THEM ARE THE ONES WE SHOULD BE PUTTING IN IN
THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND NEED TO GET THEM DONE
SOMEHOW FASTER. WE’VE GOT TO FIND A BETTER WAY TO DO THESE
THINGS FASTER BECAUSE I THINK WE’RE ACTUALLY IN FAVOR AND THE
LOCAL COUNCILLORS WITHIN A THESE DONE BUT JUST NOT GETTING DONE
FAST ENOUGH. SO I’M GOING TO WORK ON THAT
TOMORROW. THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. » THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILLOR, YOU ARE UP NEXT,
COUNCILLOR COLLE, BUT FIRST A POINT OF PRIVILEGE, COUNCILLOR
MATLOW. » THANK YOU. I WANTED TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE DEBATING AN ITEM THAT COUNCILLOR ROBINSON
WOULD HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT IF SHE WAS HERE. AND I JUST WANTED
TO SAY BOTH AS A COLLEAGUE, A FRIEND AND AS A FELLOW
COUNCILLOR WHO SERVES THE YONGE AND EGLINGTON COMMUNITY, THAT I
JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHETHER OR NOT I’VE AGREED OR DISAGREED
WITH HER ON CERTAIN ASPECTS OF VISION 0, SOMETIMES THE PACE
WE’VE HAD DISAGREEMENTS AND DEBATES BUT NO ONE CAN DENY HER
COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION TO ROAD SAFETY IN THE CITY, AND THE
LEADERSHIP THAT SHE HAS PROVIDED. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY PUBLICALLY HOW MUCH I MISS
HER WHETHER OR NOT WE VOTE ON ANY ITEM. I WISH HER MY LOVE
AND SUPPORT AND THE BEST AS SHE FACE THE CHALLENGE —
» THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MATLOW, POSSIBLY NOT A POINT OF
PRIVILEGE BECAUSE NO ONE HAS IN FACT OFFENDED COUNCILLOR
ROBINSON’S HONOR IN ANY WAY BUT I’M SURE THE COMMENT IS
HEARTFELT. I’M GOING TO MOVE NOW TO COUNCILLOR COLLE.
» YES, OUT OF THIS MOTION BY COUNCILLOR LAI, THERE’S
OBVIOUSLY SOME SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THAT HER MOTION HAS
RAISED. AND I THINK IT’S A COMBINATION OF WHAT COUNCILLOR LAYTON SAID AND THE
MAYOR SAID, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT UP AND REDUCE ALL THE SPEED
LIMITS WE WANT, BUT IF THERE ISN’T ANY ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE,
THERE’S NO ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THE POLICE ARE SO BUSY DOING
EVERYTHING ELSE WE’RE ASKING THEM TO DEAL WITH GUN CRIME,
DRUG CRIME, SO WE NEED TO MOVE OUT OF THE HORSE AND BUGGY ERA
AND START TO DEPLOY TECHNOLOGY. YOU KNOW, WE’VE GOT THE
AUTOMATED SPEED ENFORCEMENT, WE’VE BEEN USING THAT SINCE
1998, WHEN WE HAD THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS. AND WE CAN’T SEEM TO
GET AROUND TO USING THIS TECHNOLOGY BASICALLY TO HELP IN
ENFORCEMENT. IT’S BEYOND ME WHY THIS ISN’T DEPLOYED LIKE
YESTERDAY. AND SURE, IS THE PROVINCE WHO BY THE WAY HAS NOT
EVEN PASSED THE REDS YET, THE PROVINCE HAS NOT EVEN PASSED THE
REGULATIONS FIÈVRE MIND ASKING THEM WHICH WE’VE ASKED
REPEATEDLY FOR THE REGS. THEY HAVEN’T PASSED THE REGS. SO
TALK ABOUT THE NEED TO GET INTO THE MODERN ERA OF DANGER ON OUR
STREETS, SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SAY WE’RE GOING TO REDUCE,
WE’RE GOING TO INCREASE SPEED LIMITS ON A ROAD, BUT WITHOUT
THE ENFORCEMENT, IT’S VERY THEORETICAL. LIKE WE GOT TO
PUSH FOR THIS, AND WE ALSO GOT TO PUSH FOR FUNDING. AS COUNCILLOR LAYTON SAYS I’VE
GOT — I’M ASKING FOR A STUDY NOW AT AVENUE ROAD AND 401, TALK
ABOUT TRAFFIC SAFETY AS PEOPLE GO ABOUT A HUNDRED MILES AN HOUR
TRYING TO GET UP AVENUE ROAD, OR COMING A HUNDRED MILES AN HOUR
COMING OFF THE 401 TO GO DOWN AVENUE ROAD. YOU CAN’T EVEN
DARE APPROACH AN INTERSECTION WITHOUT SOME GUY IN A PORSCHE
GOING A HUNDRED MILES AN HOUR EVERY DAY, EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE
NEED THAT TECHNOLOGY YESTERDAY, AND WE NEED TO
EXPEDITE THE REPORTS. YOU KNOW, AS COUNCILLOR LAYTON
SAID IT TAKES MONTHS AND YEARS TO GET SIGNAL LIGHTS. IT TAKES
ALL KINDS OF REPORTS TO GET A FOUR-WAY STOP. FOUR-WAY STOP SIGNS. I HAVE TO
GO THROUGH HOOPS LIKE YOU WOULDN’T BELIEVE TO BASICALLY
GET — IN FACT, PEOPLE WERE SO IMPRESSED GOT A FOUR-WAY STOP
THERE UP IN YONGE BOULEVARD THEY HAD A PARTY ON — THEY HAD A
STREET PARTY BECAUSE THEY GOT A FOUR-WAY STOP. THEY COULDN’T
BELIEVE THAT IT WAS DONE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO THAT’S
WHAT WE SHOULD DO AS A RESULT OF COUNCILLOR LAI’S MOTION. SHE
BRINGS TO ATTENTION THE NEED FOR US TO START YELLING AND
SCREAMING ABOUT THE PROVINCE TO GET OFF THEIR REAR END AND GIVE
US THE ABILITY TO PUT IN THE AUTOMATED SPEE ENFORCEMENT
CAMERAS TO SAVE THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TORONTO.
WE NEED TO DO MORE TO PRESS THEM BECAUSE AGAIN THEY HAVEN’T EVEN
HAD THE COURTESY OF PASSING THE REGS, THAT’S WHAT THEY THINK OF
US. » THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR COLLE.
SPEAKER NUNZIATA IS NEXT. » YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILLOR LAI, I APPRECIATE
WHAT YOU’RE TRYING TO DO FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS, BUT I CAN’T
SUPPORT IT. I’M GETTING HUNDREDS OF REQUESTS
IN MY WARD FOR RESIDENTS WANTING TO REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT TO 30
AND COUNCILLOR HOLYDAY, YOU KNOW EVERY COUNCIL MEETING I HAVE
TONS OF RECOMMENDATIONS GOING THROUGH
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND
SPEED. AND IT’S HAPPENING NEAR THE SCHOOLS AND EVERYWHERE.
AND YESTERDAY THE 83-YEAR OLD SENIOR THAT WAS HIT WAS IN MY
WARD ON ST. CLAIR AVENUE. AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY TWO THAT WERE
HIT AT THAT — ON ST. CLAIR AVENUE.
BUT I’M IN FULL SUPPORT OF REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT AND
TRAFFIC CALMING ON WHATEVER STREET. AND IF RESIDENTS IN THE
COMMUNITY SUPPORT IT, I DO SUPPORT IT. I’M ONE OF THE
BIGGEST SUPPORTERS ON TRAFFIC CALMING. I THINK JUST RECENTLY
WHEN I REDUCED THE LANES ON SCARLET ROAD FROM 4 TO 2 WHERE
PEOPLE WERE DRIVING 80, 90 MILES AN HOUR, COUNCILLOR FORD YOU
KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU DRIVE THERE ALL THE TIME, RIGHT, BUT
NOT 80 AND 90. » [AWAY FROM MIC].
» WHAT WET WAS WE REDUCED THE LANE TO TWO LANES AND WE PUT
BICYCLE LANES. AND PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING BUT YOU KNOW, NOW
IT’S BEEN A FEW WEEKS. AND EVERYTHING’S BEEN COMPLETED
AND PEOPLE ARE HAPPY. WE DO SEE CYCLISTS. AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE
JUST HAVE TO ADJUST TO IT. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO DO
WHATEVER IT TAKES TO REDUCE SPEED OF TRAFFIC AND MAKE IT
SAFE. FOR PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS AND MOTORISTS ON THE STREET. SO
COUNCILLOR LAI, I’M SORRY I CAN’T SUPPORT YOUR MOTION.
» THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR NUNZIATA. COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA. OH, SORRY.
» YOU KNOW WHAT, HAPPY TO SAY —
» I KNOW YOU WOULD. SORRY, COUNCILLOR PASTERNAK.
» THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
» I’M RESTARTING YOUR CLOCK. » AND THANK YOU COUNCILLOR
PERRUZZA FOR VOLUNTEERING TO STEP IN FOR ME
TO SPEAK. AND THANK YOU COUNCILLOR GRIMES FOR ALL THE
ADVICE YOU’VE OFFERED TO ME ALL DAY LONG. THERE’S NOT LOT TO
ADD TO THE CONVERSATION. A LOT OF WHAT HAS TO BE SAID HAS
BEEN SAID. THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE THAT IS COMING TO MANY OF OUR
OFFICES IS TRAFFIC CONTROL, TRAFFIC CALMING, SAFETY,
PROTECTING PEDESTRIANS, PROTECTING PROPERTY DAMAGE,
PREVENTING INJURIES, PREVENTING DEATHS. THIS IS A KEY THING
THAT THE PEOPLE OF TORONTO ARE LOOKING TO THEIR GOVERNMENT FOR.
TO MAKE SURE THE LAWS OF THE ROAD ARE OBEYED, THAT PEOPLE
STOP AT STOP SIGNS, BEAM PEOPLE OBEY THEIR SIGNALLIZED
INTERSECTIONS AND THAT WE IMPLEMENT MANY OF THE MEASURES
THAT WE’VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THROUGH THE VISION 0 PROGRAM.
IT’S BEEN MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES TO THE WAIT TIME, THE GAP
TIME BETWEEN ADOPTED CITY POLICY FOR A SPECIFIC TRAFFIC COMMON
STRATEGY AND THE TIME OF IMPLEMENTATION. I HAD A
CROSSWALK IN BATHERS MANNER APPROVED BEFORE THE LAST
ELECTION. AND IT HAS YET TO GO IN. AND WHETHER THIS IS A STAFFING ISSUE, WHETHER THIS IS
A LOW GIST STICK ISSUE, WHETHER IT’S DONE IN HOUSE OR DONE TO A
THIRD PARTY IT’S TAKING FAR TOO LONG TO IMPLEMENT MANY OF THESE
STRATEGIES AT THAT WE’RE ADOPTING HERE. REGARDING THE
LOCAL COUNCILLOR AND LOWERING SPEED LIMITS, IT IS TRUE THAT I
OFTEN RELY ON THE COUNCIL AND THE ADVICE OF LOCAL COUNCILLOR
FOR A LOCAL ISSUE. I’VE SPOKEN TO OTHER MEN’S OF
COUNCIL HERE AND IT’S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE SEND A UNIFIED
— TO GET EVERYBODY TO TAKE A DEEP PUT DOWN THIS CELL PHONES
TAKE AWAY SOME OF THEIR DISTRACTIONS.
WHEN PEOPLE ARE DRIVING SLOWER THEY CAN REACT TO UNEXPECTED
PERSONS TRYING TO CROSS MAJOR ARTERIAL ROADS WHETHER IT’S
MID-BLOCK OR WHEREVER, REACT TO SENIORS AND WALKERS TRYING TO
CROSS MAJOR SECONDARY ROADS. AND SAME TIME BE ABLE TO REACT
TO ONCOMING VEHICLE OR OTHER PEDESTRIAN. THE FASTER YOU GO
THE MORE LIKELY YOU ARE TO GET INTO AN ACCIDENT, TO HURT
SOMEONE OR TO TITLE KILL ONE. I THINK WE HAVE TO SPEAK AS A
UNITED VOICE. I — WE HAVE TO MAKE A FIRM UNITED STATEMENT,
THAT SPEED LIMITS IN THE CITY MUST COME DOWN, THAT DRIVERS
MUST TAKE A DEEP BREATH, WE MUST EMPHASIZE SAFETY. WE MUST BE
ALERT BEHIND THE WHEEL AND WE MUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY
GETS HOME SAFELY AT THE END OF EACH DAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
» THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR CARROLL.
» THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. SO MADAM SPEAKER, MY FAMILY HAS
A NICKNAME FOR ME LED FOOT. I HAVE A LED FOOT. I DRIVE TOO
FAST. AND I DRIVE A LOT. I DRIVE MOSTLY IN THE SUBURBS ON
WIDER ROADS. WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF LANES. AND I STARTED DRIVING
A LITTLE LATER ON, I DIDN’T ACTUALLY HAVE MY DRIVER’S
LICENSE UNTIL I WAS 33 WHEN I HAD 2 CHILDREN AND THOUGHT OKAY,
THIS IS NOT WORKABLE. .
» MOST PEOPLE WILL SAY NO, THAT’S NOT GOOD. AND THIS IS
THE WAY TO GET THERE. THERE’S NO OTHER WAY AROUND IT. AND SO
WE GOT TO GET PEOPLE TO PUT AWAY THEIR LED FEET, AND START TO PAY
ATTENTION TO HOW THEY DRIVE ANYWHERE, ANYWHERE IN THIS CITY.
BECAUSE THE MAP SHOWS US THE FATALITIES ARE HAPPENING
EVERYWHERE, AN WE NEED TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR EVERYWHERE. THANK YOU,
MADAM SPEAKER. » THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA.
» THANK YOU, SPEAKER. SPEAKER, I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE
ANSWER IS TO MAKE OUR — WELL I KIND OF DO, I’M NOT SURE THAT
THIS IS THE WAY YOU GET TO SAFER ROADS. AND YOU GET TO YOU KNOW,
YOU GET TO A PLACE WHERE FEWER PEOPLE GET HIT BY CARS. YOU GET
HIT AT 20 KILOMETERS PER HOUR OR 30 OR 50 OR 60, YOU’RE IN BIG
TROUBLE LIKE REALLY BIG TROUBLE DOESN’T MATTER WHAT SPEED YOU
GET HIT AT. I’LL TELL YOU SOMETHING HE IS THAT’S VERY,
VERY INTERESTING. I DRIVE DOWN FROM THE OUTER LIMITS OF NORTH
YORK DOWN TO CITY HALL. AVERAGE SPEED IS AROUND 19, 20,
21 KILOMETERS PER HOUR THAT’S HOW FAST I GET DOWN HERE BY CAR.
IRRESPECTIVE OF THE SPEEDED LIMIT, OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT’S
JUST THE WAY OUR CITY IS DESIGNED, RIGHT. YOU KNOW WITH
TRAFFIC LIGHTS, LOTS OF TRAFFIC, LOTS OF PEOPLE MOVING AROUND.
SO NOT VERY FAST. IN FACT, RIGHT WHEN I COME DOWN ON MY
BICYCLE, AVERAGE PEED IS AROUND 23, 24 KILOMETERS AN HOUR. SO I
GET DOWN HERE FASTER ON MY BICYCLE THAN I GET HER ON THE
CAR — IN THE CAR. SO I DON’T KNOW IF CREATING THE
SYSTEM WHERE ON ONE ROAD YOU CAN GO 50, ANOTHER ROAD # 0, ANOTHER
ROAD 40, ANOTHER ROAD A HUNDRED, THAT’S GOING TO GET YOU TO WHERE
WE WANT TO GET TO. I THINK UNIFORMITY IS REALLY,
REALLY IMPORTANT FOR SURE. NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. BUT I THINK
WHAT’S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION IS
VIGILANCE. THIS SUMMER I HAPPENED TO BE IN
— ON MY OWN DIME I SHOULD SAY THAT FIRST, TOOK THE KIDS THERE. AND COUNCILLOR CARROLL PULLED UP
STATISTICS TALKED ABOUT HOW ROME HAS THE SAME POPULATION AS
TORONTO, YEAH, MINUS THE TOURISTS, RIGHT THEN WHEN YOU
ADD IN THE TOURISTS IT GOES UP, RIGHT. I DON’T KNOW THEY GOT
LIKE 120 MILLION VISITORS OR SOMETHING. RIGHT. THE CITY, NO THE COUNTRY, THE
VATICAN, RIGHT THEY KEEP THAT STAT BECAUSE THEY KIND OF YOU
PAY TO GO IN TO SEE THE CHAPEL, RIGHT. IT ADDS UP, RIGHT. SO
THIS IS A COUNTER THERE, RIGHT. SO YOU GET LOTS AND LOTS OF
PEOPLE THERE. AND WHAT I NOTICED WAS THAT THERE’S SOME CHAOS IN THE CITY. CHAOS BETWEEN THE
CARS, THE SCOOTERS, THE BICYCLES, THE PEDESTRIANS, AND
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT’S REALLY REMARKABLE IN THAT CHAOS? IS
THAT CHAOS BREEDS VIGILANCE. IT DOES.
» MORE CHAOS. » IT DOES. SO BEFORE YOU STEP OFF A CURB,
BEFORE YOU STEP OUT ONTO THE ROAD YOU LOOK LEFT YOU LOOK
RIGHT BECAUSE IF YOU DON’T YOU’RE DONE. THE CONVERSATION ISN’T ALL ONE
SIDED. YOU KNOW TO STAND HERE AND TRY
TO CREATE THE IMPRESSION THAT SOMEHOW JUST SIMPLY BY LOWERING THE
SPEED LIMIT 10 KILOMETERS AN HOUR ALL OF A SUDDEN DEAL DONE
SAFE ROAD. NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM
THE TRUTH. IT’S A VERY, VERY COMPLEX
EQUATION. BUT WE’VE BEEN DUMBING IT DOWN
JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE SOMEBODY WILL STAND
UP AND REMIND US THAT STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT IF YOU JUST
SIMPLY GUN IT UP, SLOW IT DOWN, EVERYBODY’S SAFE. NOTHING COULD
BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. IT’S A COMPLEX EQUATION AND WE
SHOULD START BY BEING HONEST WITH OURSELVES AND TREATING IT
HONESTLY. AS OPPOSED TO DUMBING IT DOWN AS
A WAY THAT SIMPLY HERDS US IN ALL ONE DIRECTION AND THINKING
THAT SOMEHOW WE’RE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT PROBLEM OR AN
ISSUE AND WE’RE REALLY NOT. » THANK YOU.
» PERFECT. » THANK YOU.
» [AWAY FROM MIC]. » OKAY. COUNCILLOR HOLYDAY TO SPEAK.
» THANKS, MADAM SPEAKER. LISTENING TO DEBATE I’LL BE
REALLY QUICK. I JUST THINK THIS IS A REPRESENTATION OF HOW WE
GET IT WRONG AS COUNCIL. I KNOW WE’VE SPARRED AT COMMUNITY
COUNCIL BEFORE. I’M OF THE FIRM BELIEF THAT
POLITICS AND ROAD ENGINEERING DON’T MIX WELL. AT THE END OF
THE DAY THESE ARE SYSTEMS, THESE ARE CARS, THESE ARE PEOPLE,
THESE ARE — THESE ARE ENGINEERING PRINCIPLES THAT
GOVERN THE WAY THAT THESE ROADS OPERATE. I KNOW I LOOK TO THE
ADVICE OF THE STAFF ON THIS BECAUSE THEIR ADVICE IS NEUTRAL.
IT’S NOT SWAYED BY THE USERS OR THE LOCALS, THE LOCAL RESIDENTS
WHO ALL HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS. YOU KNOW CASE IN
POINT IN MARKHAM, IF YOU’RE GOING TO CONSULT, COMMUNITY WHO
DO YOU CONSULT, YOU CONSULT THE 20,000 CARS THAT PROBABLY USE
THE ROAD BECAUSE THEY’RE A STAKE HOLDER, DO YOU CONSULT THE
PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEAR THERE, DO YOU CONSULT THE PEOPLE THAT
MIGHT USE THE SIDEWALK, HOW DO YOU WEIGH ALL THAT OUT? WHAT
I’VE LEARNED IN MY TIME HERE IS I CAN RELY ON NEUTRAL ADVICE
FROM THE STAFF AND THE CITY. SO I’M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE
AMENDMENT TO CHANGE IT MUCH IN THE SAME WAY I DON’T SUPPORT AMENDMENTS TO
INSTALL A STOP SIGN OR A TRAFFIC LIGHT OR A SPEED BUMP WHERE THE
TRANSPORTATION STAFF HAVE SAID IT DOESN’T BELONG THERE. BECAUSE OF THE — AT THE END OF
THE DAY SOMETIMES THESE CONTROLS ARE CONTROVERSIAL AND EVEN WORSE
SOMETIMES THESE CONTROLS CAN MAKE IT WORSE. YOU KNOW, IF
THERE’S AN ACCIDENT ON — A COLLISION I’LL USE THE CORRECT
LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, IT MATTERS WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS. IF
IT’S TOO HIGH OR TOO LOW IT CAN CAUSE THAT COLLISION TO OCCUR.
SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT AND — IN HOW WE
REACH THESE DECISIONS. AND WE CAN RELY ON PEOPLE THAT DON’T
BRING POLITICS INTO THE MIX AND THAT’S THE STAFF. AND SO FOR
THAT REASON, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD THINK CAREFULLY ABOUT
SUPPORTING A CHANGE TO A RECOMMENDATION THAT’S BROUGHT
FORWARD TO US BY THOSE THAT MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION — VIEW OF POLITICS, THANKS.
» THANK YOU. SO IF WE CAN PUT THE MOTION ON THE SCREEN. OKAY.
RECORDED VOTE. » YOU WANT IT SEPARATE.
» [AWAY FROM MIC]. » OKAY.
» COUNCILLOR COLLE. COUNCILLOR MATLOW WHEN YOU’RE
SEATED. » THANK YOU. » THE AMENDMENT DOES NOT CARRY
THE VOTE IS 3-22. » YOU WANT TO REOPEN IT,
COUNCILLOR PERKS. OKAY ALL IN FAY OF REOPENING? CARRIED.
OKAY. LET’S VOTE AGAIN. » COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA, PLEASE. » THE AMENDMENT DOES NOT CARRY.
THE VOTE IS 5-20. » OH MY GOD COUNCILLOR MATLOW I
THOUGHT YOU GOT UP IN SUPPORT OF VISION 0. » [AWAY FROM MIC]. » OKAY LET’S REOPEN. ALL IN
FAVOR, OKAY, WE ARE VOTING ON THE MOTION EVERYONE, WE’RE
VOTING ON COUNCILLOR LAI’S MOTION. THIS WILL BE THE LAST
TIME. » MIKE.
» YES, I CAN. » RECORDED VOTE. 3 TIMES YOU’RE
OUT. » THE AMENDMENT DOES NOT CARRY
THE VOTE IS 3-22. » OKAY. THAT’S IT. OKAY, SO MEMBERS, WE DO HAVE
SOME MEMBERS MOTION THAT WE HAVE TO INTRODUCE. ON THE ITEM ALL IN FAVOR?
CARRIED. SO WE DO HAVE SOME MEMBERS MOTION WE’LL INTRODUCE
AND THEN A BILL AND THEN WE’LL RECESS. COUNCILLOR CRAWFORD.
» THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. THIS IS ON BEHALF OF COUNCILLOR
ROBINSON. IT’S A TLAB VAIANCE.
TRY THAT AGAIN. » ALL IN FAVOR? CARRIED.
COUNCILLOR CRAWFORD DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE.
» I’LL CORRECT THAT. » THERE’S ANOTHER ONE. » RECORDED, RECORDED, SPEAKER.
» THESE ARE JUST TO INTRODUCE. » THIS IS TO INTRODUCE YOU WANT
A RECORDED VOTE? OKAY. RECORDED VOTE. .
» COUNCILLOR GRIMES, THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR CARROLL. COUNCILLOR WONG-TAM, PLEASE.
» COUNCILLOR CROWING WHEN YOU’RE SEATED, COUNCILLOR
BAILÃO. » THIS IS JUST TO INTRODUCE. » THE MOTION TO INTRODUCE THE
ITEM CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY 24 IN FAVOR.
» OKAY WHO’S NEXT? COUNCILLOR THOMPSON.
» YES, SPEAKER. YES. THIS IS TO INTRODUCE AN ITEM TO GET
STAFF TO LOOK AT SOME NEW TECHNOLOGY TO DEAL WITH SOME OF
THE ISSUES THAT WE’RE FACING WITH PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES IN
THE CITY. » OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? WHEN YOU WENT TO ROME, DID YOU
SEE THE POPE? » COUNCILLOR LAYTON AND
COUNCILLOR CRESSY AND COUNCILLOR MATLOW. » COUNCILLOR PASTERNAK, PLEASE
AND COUNCILLOR WONG-TAM, PLEASE. » MOTION TO ADD THE ITEM
CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY 24 IN FAVOR. » COUNCILLOR FLETCHER, YOU HAVE
2? » YES, I DO SPEAKER, THANK YOU.
THIS IS TO INTRODUCE A TLAB, PLEASE. STAFF HAS ASKED ME TO
DO THAT. » ALL IN FAVOR? ? RECORDED. » COUNCILLOR MATLOW, COUNCILLOR
KARYGIANNIS, COUNCILLOR BAILÃO. » THE MOTION CARRIES
UNANIMOUSLY 23 IN FAVOR. » COUNCILLOR FLETCHER. .
» YES, PLEASE, THIS IS URGENT. BECAUSE WE CAN’T DO THIS UNTIL
WE HAVE THAT AGREEMENT WITH TORONTO [INAUDIBLE].
» RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR LAYTON, COUNCILLOR
CRESSY. COUNCILLOR LAYTON, AND
COUNCILLOR CRESSY, PLEASE. » MOTION TO INTRODUCE CARRIES
UNANIMOUSLY 23 IN FAVOR. » COUNCILLOR BAILÃO.
» MADAM SPEAKER I’D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THIS MOTION TO ADDRESS
SOME ISSUES THAT WERE — THEY’RE INFLUENCING THE LOSS OF RENTAL
HOUSING STOCK. » RECORDED VOTE. » THE MOTION CARRIES 22-1
PERFORM .
» COUNCILLOR WONG-TAM. » YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MADAM SPEAKER. THIS MOTION IS URGENT AS THE HEARING OF THE
APPEAL OF THE LOCAL PLANNING APPEAL TRIBUNAL IS SCHEDULED FOR
THIS COMING THURSDAY. » ALL IN FAVOR? » COUNCILLOR BAILÃO, PLEASE. » THE MOTION CARRIES 2 — IT’S
UNANIMOUS 23 IN FAVOR. » THAT’S IT.
» YES. » COUNCILLOR GRIMES, YOU HAVE A
MOTION TO INTRODUCE CERTAIN BILLS
» I DO, MADAM SPEAKER, THAT LEAVE BE GRABBED TO INTRODUCE
BILLS 1458 AND 1497. » SHALL LEAVE BE GRANTED TO
INTRODUCE THESE BILLS? RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR PASTERNAK,
COUNCILLOR GRIMES, PLEASE. » COUNCILLOR LAYTON, PLEASE.
COUNCILLOR THOMPSON. » MOTION TO INTRODUCE THE BILL
CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY 23 IN FAVOR. » SHALL THESE BILLS BE PASSED
AND DECLARED AS A BYLAW, RECORDED VOTE.
» [AWAY FROM MIC]. » LOOK — YEAH, OKAY. » COUNCILLOR PERKS, COUNCILLOR
FILION, COUNCILLOR WONG-TAM. COUNCILLOR BAILÃO, PLEASE, AND
COUNCILLOR MATLOW. » MOTION TO ENACT THE BILLS
CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY 23 IN FAVOR. » COUNCILLOR HOLYDAY, OFF
MOTION TO INTRODUCE THE CONFIRMING BILL.
» YES, I DO, THANK YOU, SPEAKER. THAT LEAVE BE GRANTED
TO INTRODUCE A BILL TO CONFIRM TO THE POINT OF THE INTRODUCTION
OF THIS MOTION THE PROCEEDINGS OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING 11 ON
OCTOBER 29TH, 2019. » THANK YOU. SHALL LEAVE BE
GRANTEDED TO INTRODUCE THIS BILL, RECORDED VOTE. » COUNCILLOR WONG-TAM, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. » MOTION TO INTRODUCE THE
CONFIRMING BILL CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY 23 IN FAVOR.
» SHALL THIS BILL BE PASSED AND DECLARED AS A BYLAW, RECORDED
VOTE. SDMRFRMENT COUNCILLOR WONG-TAM,
INFRASTRUCTURE FILION, SORRY PERKS, COUNCILLOR GRIMES,
PLEASE, COUNCILLOR PERRUZZA. » COUNCILLOR THOMPSON. » THE MOTION TO ENACT THE
CONFIRMING BILLS CARRIES 21-2. » OKAY. THANK YOU. WE’RE
RECESSED UNTIL 9:30 TOMORROW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Stephen Childs

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